[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
irish, i see what you are saying, but you dont realize the bigger point i think he was trying to make. many people of all colors(in this country, mostly white i admit) have an advantage out of the starting gate related to the socioeconomic class of their families. as a professional, i went to college and not work with mostly people who’s parents were middle-upper middle class, they had the benefit of growing up in nice safe neighbor hoods, good public schools or access to private schools, parents who were educated professionals and could help them with homework and provide positive role models, had their college paid for, so they could focus on studying, when the got married they often had a good head start on a home/life with substantial monetary gifts for down payments, furniture, etc.
many white people in this country have those advantages…some people of color have the same, though not nearly as many.
so if you are white and fall into the above said category, maybe their is some validity to your white guilt and self hatred.
but there are a lot of white people who refuse to accept this and rightly so because they had none of those above mentioned advantages.
take me, (my mother is hispanic actually, but since my father is white, and i have an english sir-name, the government considers me white), both of my parents were illiterate, and poor, and came from poor families. I have seen gun play between my neighbors growing up, watched cops raid houses down the street from me, see husbands beat the shit out of their wives in the street, my parents could not help me with schoolwork after the 1st grade. i worked multiple shit jobs to get through college.
i dont buy into this bullshit, because i refuse to be stereotyped as the typical sheltered and privileged whitey.
i know this is difficult and hard on the ear to the masses of politically correct and brainwashed white guilty liberals, but it is a fact for many so called “white people”.
I’m not talking directly about our (maybe, I don’t know how old you are) generation- the concept of “white privilege” goes back quite a ways, and more so the longer someone’s family has been here.
It may be something that you never even knew about, or something that you don’t know happened- a college application for your grandfather that got the nod because the name sounded American, a job that someone got rejected for a month before because they were black, etc.
I’m neither sheltered nor brainwashed- I just believe that it would be foolish to think that 300 years of blatant favoritism towards one race can just be erased in a single generation. Maybe by the time we’re older, it will have reached a level playing field, but right now, with most black men around 30 knowing full well that their parents weren’t allowed to vote, didn’t even attend the same schools as whites- it’s not the same.
My generation is beginning to even things out, but for generations prior, there was no comparison. Everyone acts like racism is either dead or has been for a while- in truth, as I’ve often said, if you’re a 35 year old black man, your father couldn’t vote, his father couldn’t go to school, his father was a starving sharecropper, and his father was a slave. You don’t simply “erase” that kind of advantage.
Again- that doesn’t mean that it “allows”, per se, a black man to vindicate failure in his own life. However, all of these factors have drawn together, from the drug war to the “White Flight” to racism and whatever else, to put blacks in poor, urban areas, and subject them to a plethora of difficulties that most white kids growing up in the suburbs will never encounter. thus, the climb is much more steep, and through no fault of the black man himself, he’s been put at a disadvantage since birth.
Grow up the in the ghetto? Dodge the drugs and the gangs. Get good grades? School systems suck, and you will get passed over unless you’re the best of the best. You have the specter of racism looming on every job application, every time you call for an apartment. Is it always there? No. But often enough that it changes the rules of the game.
It’s not as simple as, “Pick yourself up.” No one starts off wanting to be a drug addict, or a welfare case, and no mother wants their son to be a banger. But men are not islands… and society has it’s due effect on them.
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You have bought into it wholesale. In time you may change your views, but i somehow doubt it. Everyone is as a result of the choices they made.
I’ve been to and attended ghetto high schools and the only students in class that cared where white asian and Indian. 90% of black and Hispanic kids could care less. They were very heavily into sex and fun at such young ages. Different priorities from a racial group.
What were really saying here is the a black person will be on the right path when he is just like all the white people. Then White people will have success right? WRONG.
Because what happens here is cultural assimilation, so that they will be black only in color, but white in every other aspect.