[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Is it the rest of society’s responsibilty to pay higher Health Ins. Premiums because some one eats too many simple carbs
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Only when people are mandated to buy insurance. Otherwise, it is a choice.
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It still effects premiums in an open market
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That’s an indictment of the insurance market more than anything. [/quote]
it doesn’t matter , some one else is effecting my premium . Why should I be disallowed to try and educate them not only to bring down my premium but to give them a better life
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You’re allowed to educate them now. Make a YouTube video on nutrition or create a free blog. [/quote]
He’s said over and over he wants the government to do that…
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Well if the government does it, at least it’ll be free… Plus insurance premiums will go down, it’s a win win![/quote]
Funny how other industrialized countries have government run healthcare and they pay far less than the super-efficient U.S. model with better results.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
However the public has the right to know.[/quote]
What do you want, specifically, on the fucking label?[/quote]
Have already answered this. What is it specifically about your beliefs that make it okay for the public to not be informed about the food they buy?
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My belief is that all the information needed to make an informed choice is at the consumer’s fingertips already.
Please copy paste where you SPECIFICLY outlined what you want on the food label that isn’t there already. I’m sorry but I missed it. [/quote]
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
A listing of ingredients is not the same as the manipulation of them. Get it because I think you are having a hard time understanding the concept.
Aka “we can’t have this information readily available because it may effect sales”[/quote]
You’re right we absolutely need to add the recipe as well as the ingredients because if the 40g of sugar are added in step 2 or step 7 really matters…
The information is there. What you ask for is ridiculous.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Funny how other industrialized countries have government run healthcare and they pay far less than the super-efficient U.S. model with better results.
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Even if this is true, which I don’t believe it is, other countries =/= our country. How well run is VA healthcare? That’s government run healthcare in America.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
A listing of ingredients is not the same as the manipulation of them. Get it because I think you are having a hard time understanding the concept.
Aka “we can’t have this information readily available because it may effect sales”[/quote]
You’re right we absolutely need to add the recipe as well as the ingredients because if the 40g of sugar are added in step 2 or step 7 really matters…
The information is there. What you ask for is ridiculous.
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Asking for disclosure is ridiculous?
It isn’t the ingredients themselves per se it is how they are combined in a specific ratio that produces the addictive results. Just look and read over the studies.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Funny how other industrialized countries have government run healthcare and they pay far less than the super-efficient U.S. model with better results.
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Even if this is true, which I don’t believe it is, other countries =/= our country. How well run is VA healthcare? That’s government run healthcare in America. [/quote]
In light of the recent mess with VA I still believe it is run better than our for profit system.
If the U.S. healthcare system is the envy of the world, which is how the propaganda goes, why aren’t other nations populations clamoring for a change? Y’know since it is so efficient and good.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
A listing of ingredients is not the same as the manipulation of them. Get it because I think you are having a hard time understanding the concept.
Aka “we can’t have this information readily available because it may effect sales”[/quote]
You’re right we absolutely need to add the recipe as well as the ingredients because if the 40g of sugar are added in step 2 or step 7 really matters…
The information is there. What you ask for is ridiculous.
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Asking for disclosure is ridiculous?
It isn’t the ingredients themselves per se it is how they are combined in a specific ratio that produces the addictive results. Just look and read over the studies.
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Food is not addictive. It might taste good and you might want it, but it is not crack. No one shakes uncontrollably when they cut KFC out of their diet.
Every single thing in every packaged good is fully disclosed on the package.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
If the U.S. healthcare system is the envy of the world, which is how the propaganda goes, why aren’t other nations populations clamoring for a change? Y’know since it is so efficient and good.[/quote]
I don’t know if other nations clamor to change their system to be more like ours or not. What I do know, is that people of other nations come here to receive care, why is that?
"AdAge recently reported on American per capita beverage consumption for 2010. Perhaps it comes as no surprise that carbonated soft drinks are the most-consumed beverages, with an average of 44.7 gallons consumed per person, per year. "
45 gallons of soda a year. That’s 5,760 oz = 720 servings of Pepsi = 19,440 grams of sugar from soda alone a year (assuming Pepsi is the drink of choice). That’s about 288 sodas a year. I mean my God.
“Fast Food Still Major Part of U.S. Diet
Most Americans believe fast food is not “good for you”
by Andrew Dugan
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Eight in 10 Americans report eating at fast-food restaurants at least monthly, with almost half saying they eat fast food at least weekly. Only 4% say they never eat at fast-food restaurants. But slightly fewer Americans eat fast food weekly now than did so in 2006, when Gallup last asked about it.”
80% eat fast food monthly with 76% responding that the food itself was not too good or not good at all for them. YET THEY EAT IT ANYWAY
How the fuck can you possibly sit here and say it’s Corporate Americas fault people are fat. They put out a product or products that people clearly want. [/quote]
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
If the U.S. healthcare system is the envy of the world, which is how the propaganda goes, why aren’t other nations populations clamoring for a change? Y’know since it is so efficient and good.[/quote]
I don’t know if other nations clamor to change their system to be more like ours or not. What I do know, is that people of other nations come here to receive care, why is that?[/quote]
Do they? What sources can you cite to help prove your assertion? Also what class of people?
If the U.S. is so cutting edge why did Peyton Manning have to go to another country to have stem cell therapy?
"AdAge recently reported on American per capita beverage consumption for 2010. Perhaps it comes as no surprise that carbonated soft drinks are the most-consumed beverages, with an average of 44.7 gallons consumed per person, per year. "
45 gallons of soda a year. That’s 5,760 oz = 720 servings of Pepsi = 19,440 grams of sugar from soda alone a year (assuming Pepsi is the drink of choice). That’s about 288 sodas a year. I mean my God.
“Fast Food Still Major Part of U.S. Diet
Most Americans believe fast food is not “good for you”
by Andrew Dugan
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Eight in 10 Americans report eating at fast-food restaurants at least monthly, with almost half saying they eat fast food at least weekly. Only 4% say they never eat at fast-food restaurants. But slightly fewer Americans eat fast food weekly now than did so in 2006, when Gallup last asked about it.”
80% eat fast food monthly with 76% responding that the food itself was not too good or not good at all for them. YET THEY EAT IT ANYWAY
How the fuck can you possibly sit here and say it’s Corporate Americas fault people are fat. They put out a product or products that people clearly want. [/quote]
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Corporations ought not be allowed to rig the game in their favor by creating products that spur on food addiction, especially without disclosure. How in the fuck can you be for that?
Who really cares what the food labeling guide currently says. It is besides the point. Why can’t you understand that? Just because something is the law does not make it right. Blacks were slaves once and it was within the law, did that make it right? Women were not allowed to vote according to law, did that make it right?
Who really cares what the food labeling guide currently says. It is besides the point. Why can’t you understand that? Just because something is the law does not make it right. Blacks were slaves once and it was within the law, did that make it right? Women were not allowed to vote according to law, did that make it right?[/quote]
Translation, what the government already forces on business owners isn’t enough.
"AdAge recently reported on American per capita beverage consumption for 2010. Perhaps it comes as no surprise that carbonated soft drinks are the most-consumed beverages, with an average of 44.7 gallons consumed per person, per year. "
45 gallons of soda a year. That’s 5,760 oz = 720 servings of Pepsi = 19,440 grams of sugar from soda alone a year (assuming Pepsi is the drink of choice). That’s about 288 sodas a year. I mean my God.
“Fast Food Still Major Part of U.S. Diet
Most Americans believe fast food is not “good for you”
by Andrew Dugan
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Eight in 10 Americans report eating at fast-food restaurants at least monthly, with almost half saying they eat fast food at least weekly. Only 4% say they never eat at fast-food restaurants. But slightly fewer Americans eat fast food weekly now than did so in 2006, when Gallup last asked about it.”
80% eat fast food monthly with 76% responding that the food itself was not too good or not good at all for them. YET THEY EAT IT ANYWAY
How the fuck can you possibly sit here and say it’s Corporate Americas fault people are fat. They put out a product or products that people clearly want. [/quote]
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Corporations ought not be allowed to rig the game in their favor by creating products that spur on food addiction, especially without disclosure. How in the fuck can you be for that?
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First of all, I don’t believe food addiction is a real thing. Second of all what you put in your mouth is 100% on you.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
In light of the recent mess with VA I still believe it is run better than our for profit system.
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I have never read such a ridiculous claim on PWI.
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What do the majority of the VA members have to say about their care?
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I don’t know what the majority of veterans think about the VA, however, I have never met a veteran that thought VA care was even okay let alone good. From personal experience I can tell you the VA sucks at everything they do including healthcare.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
If the U.S. healthcare system is the envy of the world, which is how the propaganda goes, why aren’t other nations populations clamoring for a change? Y’know since it is so efficient and good.[/quote]
I don’t know if other nations clamor to change their system to be more like ours or not. What I do know, is that people of other nations come here to receive care, why is that?[/quote]
Do they? What sources can you cite to help prove your assertion? Also what class of people?
If the U.S. is so cutting edge why did Peyton Manning have to go to another country to have stem cell therapy?
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Because in his particular situation the stem cell treatment was/is illegal. That has more to do with culture than healthcare
I’m sure I can find an article or two showing people come here for treatment.