First I would like to say I am 40yrs old and have been on AndroGel for about 6-months. I have been combining it with Dermacrine Sustain to help control Estrogen.
It must be working because if I stop using Sustain while continuing to use AndroGel I will start to get prostate discomfort and weak urinary stream. I figure this is a result of too much AndroGel converting to Estrogen or maybe DHT?
All this is fairly new to me and I have not investigated more into this problem until now. I have no idea why my body quit making testosterone and I now know getting a detailed extensive blood test is imperative. I have appointment with an ENDO at the end of this month to do this.
I am hoping that there might be a way to get my testes to start making Testosterone on their own again. I have never used anything to cause them to shut down. I have read on the another forum the following protocol for kick starting Dead Balls:
Discontinue the T replacement and immediately begin the following -
1000iu hCG (LH mimicker) shot every third day for 4 weeks. (intramuscular)
With
100iu hMG (FSH mimicker) shot every third say for 4 weeks.(intramuscular)
With
.25mg arimidex or letrozol for the last 3 weeks.
Could you just use Menopur in place of both HCG and HMG?
Would this be the best protocol to see if there is any life left in the twins?
Thanks,
Alan
The Sustain is an awfully expensive choice for an aromatase inhibitor. The money you’re spending for a month’s supply of Sustain will get you more than a year’s supply of anastrozole.
The protocol you post isn’t for “kick starting dead balls.” It’s for restarting a functioning HPTA that has been shut down by taking exogenous testosterone or other steroids.
You say you’re on Androgel because your testicles stopped functioning, which would be primary hypogonadism. This would suggest that your hypothalamus and pituitary are functioning normally which means they are putting out natural LH and FSH. Since your testicles aren’t responding to your natural LH and FSH, there is no reason to believe they will respond any better to hCG.
My feeling is that anyone who is self medicating needs to be doing it from a position of knowledge, not from a position of hope and so I think you should not do anything more until you have your blood work and your consult with your endo. In the mean time, read as much as you can about the HPTA and TRT so you go into the meeting with a good knowledge base.
Thanks for your reply HappyDog. I am on Androgel because that�??s what my GP put me on because I was complaining I had a sex drive of a 6-year old and my total testosterone showed to have dropped to senior citizen level of 199.
I am glad to have found this site and all the info here as my GP is not helpful at all. He tried to give me a depression prescription when I told him I needed an antiE for Androgel. I went to a real good urologist and he was no different.
Yes, I know Sustain is too expensive; I was completely unaware of Liqudex until this site showed me the light. I have already order some.
I have stopped my HRT regimen as of yesterday, I want to go to my Endo as dead as I am to see exactly where all my hormones are at and figure out if I have primary or secondary hypogonadism. I will see then what will be the best course of treatment…
Straw
If you want to go natural, you have to make sure the underlying cause of your problem is solved first, otherwise you’ll most likely go back to what was wrong and caused you to complain to your doctor.
I know there is some life in my boys, because hcg is part of my TRT protocol (T+adex+hCG). Unfortunately, it’s because my body overall likes to convert T to E that I have to be on TRT.