[quote]DeltaOne wrote:
So yeah, how come most of the people posting on ProMuscle saying they are blasting at 2g and cruising at 500-700mg, cruising 8iu of GH and blasting 20iu are not looking like pro bodybuilders ? I’m sorry, but if gear is the ultimate end-all to bodybuilding, why the fuck aren’t we seeing people walking around at a lean 300lbs ?
People are getting completely retarded, acting as if gear is the only thing that matters.
IMO Dante’s point is not “use only HRT dosages”. If a 200 pound 6’2 dude at 20 years old is using 2 grams a week and taking 10 iu GH, and staying on year round and not getting anywhere, to what point will he continue increasing the dose ? 5 grams ? 50 iu ?
It would make a lot more sense to use the minimum as possible to ensure you’re NOT fucking yourself up or being able to keeping the gains post-cycle, thus HRT like dosages, for a shitload of time ( not talking about duration of cycles ) cycle off when possible and keep the fucking gains, THEN upping the dose when stalling or hitting a plateau, or stuff like contest prep, instead of using fucking huge amounts year round and having to place to run to when you stop making gains.
“No one gets that size using the doses Dante claims”. Correct, no one gets that size, immediately, using those doses. Now do that for 10-12 years,and then we’ll see. From reading at PM, what I’ve noticed is, most of the dudes over there are abusing the fuck out trying to get immediate results, while not paying attention to things like diet and training. I’ll stop talking about PM since I established the general IQ to be very low when I read the “How much do you spend on gear” thread.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I dunno man. I know ONE guy with absolute pro genetics, he responds very well to AAS, has insane muscle bellies and over all is a fucking monster. He typically uses around 1.5g/week and he is no where near Cedric’s size.
In all honesty, this stuff is bullshit…no one gets that size off the doses Dante claims. Cedric is probably in week 2 of his cruise at HRT dose and Dante wants to make a big deal about it lol.
You notice insulin and HGH doses never get posted? [/quote]
Not wanting to be an asshole Way, and I hope you understand my point here without taking offense.
You know a guy with good genetics, that takes 1.5g/week and doesn’t look like Cedric. So what ?
First of all, nothing is immediate in this sport, how long has he been doing that ? 1-2 year is not gonna cut it mate, how about if he kept that up for 4-6 years ? While being consistent with training, diet, the general stuff ? Undoubtedly, he would be bigger after all that time wouldn’t he ? I hope you understood what I meant here ( typing fast because I’m at work, so this post might be coming out hard to understand )
Take Yates. I don’t wanna make assumptions but I’m gonna use him as an example. It took him around 15 years, from to day he started training to the day he won the O, to look the way he did. 15 years. Even using the shitload of gear people claim he used ( I’m taking about the most absurd doses internet gurus have came up with ) it still took all that time. Your buddy is taking 1.5g and doesn’t look like Cedric. Again, for how long has Cedric been doing this ?
Hope you get what I’m trying to say.
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You misunderstood my post, I’m not saying that it’s impossible to reach cedrics level of development with 1.5g given the right genetics. I’m saying it’s extremely implausible to be at cedrics level of development and continue to make gains like Dante is claiming using an HRT dose of AAS while totally disregarding any HGH or Insulin use.