Old School Log

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
My 2 cents on the shoe thing. I tried squatting in my weightlifting shoes and found that I liked them for front squats, but found on back squats they shifted me forward a lot and I really felt it in my knees (in a bad way). But that’s just me and the way I squat is not really the best way to handle the most weight, so take it FWIW.

As far as building a shed goes, mines 15ft x 16ft and is ample. I have a rack, a hi-low pulley machine, dipping bars, a rusty old multi- gym, tonnes of DBs and plates and still have enough room in the middle to do deads and snatches. However, if I was building one again I’d go 15 x 20, you can’t have too much space can you?[/quote]

I like the 15x20 idea, thanks.
As far as the shoes i find you have to sit back into them very similar to a squat suit.

Damn, typically it’s my wife discussion shoes not me. But this is great conversation and I appreciate the dialog. Sitting back into them makes a lot of sense and I think that you’re right because you sit way, way back. Something that I certainly need to work on.

james

[quote]atypical1 wrote:
Damn, typically it’s my wife discussion shoes not me. But this is great conversation and I appreciate the dialog. Sitting back into them makes a lot of sense and I think that you’re right because you sit way, way back. Something that I certainly need to work on.

james[/quote]

Lol…yes good dialog going on about the shoes. They are like any other piece of equipment, just have to figure out if they’ll work for you and how to use them. I know there is some talk that if you need a heel to squat it’s because of calf flexibility but i really believe it has as much to do with levers as anything?
I never really thought i sat back that far but seems to be the consensus so i guess i do lol.

Abs today

BB Roll outs
3x12-0 iso holds

Candlesticks
3x5
form was so so

Glute ham sit-ups, had the carriage as close as possible with foot pads as high as possible so pretty inverted sit-up
3x10

Vid of roll outs and candlesticks, lost my line on candlesticks a bit but fun to do.

[quote]Germanone wrote:
Lol…yes good dialog going on about the shoes. They are like any other piece of equipment, just have to figure out if they’ll work for you and how to use them. I know there is some talk that if you need a heel to squat it’s because of calf flexibility but i really believe it has as much to do with levers as anything?
I never really thought i sat back that far but seems to be the consensus so i guess i do lol.[/quote]

Regarding levers, do you find that people with long or short levers benefit most? I have long legs and arms but a short torso, which is why I’m asking. Worth mentioning, the rubber pad my rack sits on is about 1/2 in thick, when I place my heals on that I can sit A2G with little problem once properly warmed up.

[quote]dday wrote:

[quote]Germanone wrote:
Lol…yes good dialog going on about the shoes. They are like any other piece of equipment, just have to figure out if they’ll work for you and how to use them. I know there is some talk that if you need a heel to squat it’s because of calf flexibility but i really believe it has as much to do with levers as anything?
I never really thought i sat back that far but seems to be the consensus so i guess i do lol.[/quote]

Regarding levers, do you find that people with long or short levers benefit most? I have long legs and arms but a short torso, which is why I’m asking. Worth mentioning, the rubber pad my rack sits on is about 1/2 in thick, when I place my heals on that I can sit A2G with little problem once properly warmed up. [/quote]

Definitely, long legs/femur. With that being said though there is so much involved in getting the right squat technique for an individual. Stance width, toes flared, knees out, where to carry the bar, weight on foot, head position, etc etc. It is like tinkering with a recipe until you get it just right. It’s such a benefit to have a coach who has an eye for that stuff which i had for years.

Oh and dday, you answered your own shoe question with the rubber matt…:slight_smile:

holy shit - nice roll-outs! and I knew candle-sticks as dragon-flags ala Bruce Lee

[quote]Germanone wrote:
Oh and dday, you answered your own shoe question with the rubber matt…:slight_smile: [/quote]

Uhmmm, I mean err, I knew that :slight_smile:

Didn’t see that video before, brutal roll outs. Not sure I’ve seen candle sticks before.

Thansk Soldog

Lol…the gymnasts call them that i think. Not sure but they work your whole core. Beats doing crunches…

I haven’t done bar roll outs in a while but I definitely feel them; mostly in my upper abs. I’ll have to throw them in again. We call the candlesticks dragon flags. I’ve done them but not as well as you.

On the topic of shoes, I squatted in O shoes several years ago then changed to chucks. I’ve recently gotten back to squatting with my O shoes. For me, it isn’t a flexibility issue because I have no problem with that. What I noticed more, after 2 years away, is the stability. I feel like there is more security and stability walking the weight out and less lateral movement in my feet and ankles under heavier loads because of the wider more inflexible sole.

Those rollouts where crazy- I need to work on that pause

ahhhh candle sticks- do you have like old S&C dictionary at home?
I swear you must.

I ant do those too much- the kill my neck.

Dday have you thought about front squats much?

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I haven’t done bar roll outs in a while but I definitely feel them; mostly in my upper abs. I’ll have to throw them in again. We call the candlesticks dragon flags. I’ve done them but not as well as you.

On the topic of shoes, I squatted in O shoes several years ago then changed to chucks. I’ve recently gotten back to squatting with my O shoes. For me, it isn’t a flexibility issue because I have no problem with that. What I noticed more, after 2 years away, is the stability. I feel like there is more security and stability walking the weight out and less lateral movement in my feet and ankles under heavier loads because of the wider more inflexible sole.[/quote]

Looks like i better change the name to dragon flags lol. The shoes are much more stable, good point.

[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
Those rollouts where crazy- I need to work on that pause

ahhhh candle sticks- do you have like old S&C dictionary at home?
I swear you must.

I ant do those too much- the kill my neck.

Dday have you thought about front squats much?
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I really like using the iso pauses, i need to work them back into more of my lifts. Generally use the 12-0 on upper body lifts (count down by 2) and 6-0 on lower body lifts (count down by 1). Unless its an iso hold for bench, squat or dead then its a 3 ct.
So you do know those as candle sticks? I was beginningg to think i lost my mind lol.
And i just might have that dictionary your talking about lol

I have loong suspected one of my limiting factors was ab strength. Now we’ll see how long it will take me to be able to do some of that crazy shit you just did.

G dont you feel the rollouts in back delts (whatever thats called) I do.

O I find that the rollouts make the abs have that “pop out” look to them.

I made my own wheels and its cool to play with wide, narrow etc. I suppose you can do the same thing on bar.

Joe maybe start out having the wall in front of you, then keep backing up as you get stronger.

Also G what the heck? you are killing me with the pause work.Ithink you need to freshen up on that pain :wink:

[quote]JoeGood wrote:
I have loong suspected one of my limiting factors was ab strength. Now we’ll see how long it will take me to be able to do some of that crazy shit you just did.[/quote]

Are you doing any ab work at all now?

[quote]UpScale wrote:
G dont you feel the rollouts in back delts (whatever thats called) I do.

O I find that the rollouts make the abs have that “pop out” look to them.

I made my own wheels and its cool to play with wide, narrow etc. I suppose you can do the same thing on bar.

Joe maybe start out having the wall in front of you, then keep backing up as you get stronger.

Also G what the heck? you are killing me with the pause work.Ithink you need to freshen up on that pain :wink:

I feel them everywhere, especially with my tight shoulders/lats
Lol on pause, (shhhh don’t tell Up but today is last day of them for a few weeks)
Wait until i throw week 1 iso holds, week 2 eccentric tempo at you…:wink:

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Like the ab session. I am trying to hit abs 3-4 times a week now. Really translates over to better stability in the squats. What are your thoughts on planks?

[quote]PeteS wrote:
Like the ab session. I am trying to hit abs 3-4 times a week now. Really translates over to better stability in the squats. What are your thoughts on planks? [/quote]

I like the planks, i think you really have to focus when doing them…almost a full body flex
Personally i get bored with the time and not moving part but i really need to add a day of planks back in. I tried the abs several days per week and when i cut down to 1-2x (mostly 1) if felt like i was getting more out of it, not sure why though