[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I guess everyone is made different and you shouldn’t underestimate people.
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Glad to hear you say this, especially after your comment in the other thread.
I see this every now and then, even here on the T-boards. People look at my weight, or my current avatar, and jump to conclusions about my strength without having the faintest idea what I push in the gym.
Bottom line is that people should focus more on improving their own lifts, rather than judging others. Constructive advice is great, but that is different from dissing people to make yourself look better. Especially when you don’t know the full story.
[quote]forlife wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
I guess everyone is made different and you shouldn’t underestimate people.
Glad to hear you say this, especially after your comment in the other thread.
I see this every now and then, even here on the T-boards. People look at my weight, or my current avatar, and jump to conclusions about my strength without having the faintest idea what I push in the gym.
Bottom line is that people should focus more on improving their own lifts, rather than judging others. Constructive advice is great, but that is different from dissing people to make yourself look better. Especially when you don’t know the full story.[/quote]
With a video actually pressing 405 you would shut everyone the fuck up.
I’m nowhere near as strong as I was in my teens and 20s. I’ve suffered a lot of injuries over the years, so now heavy doesn’t play into my scheme much anymore. But I’m now thicker, fuller, and more completely developed than I was back then.
[quote]anonym wrote:
Perhaps these older folks were lifting bigger numbers than you back in the day and have since decided to either ease up/slow down on the weights in order to “refine” their build (using different techniques and methods to focus more on the muscle working rather than jacking up more and more weight)… maybe in an attempt to avoid the wear and tear on the joints/connective tissue that (I hear) plagues many older lifters who continue to lift hard and heavy.
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This is what I have found to be true more than anything. I have dropped the weight a little on some exercises so I hold the contraction more and squeeze the target muscle group. I still go heavier than most people ever do but someone seeing me lift right now would jump to the WRONG CONCLUSION if they assumed that this was all I could lift simply because that is all I went up to that day.
I know a lot of older lifters who don’t lift as heavy anymore. However, they look the way do because they spent most of their youth lifting heavier than most people gym could ever do.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
anonym wrote:
Perhaps these older folks were lifting bigger numbers than you back in the day and have since decided to either ease up/slow down on the weights in order to “refine” their build (using different techniques and methods to focus more on the muscle working rather than jacking up more and more weight)… maybe in an attempt to avoid the wear and tear on the joints/connective tissue that (I hear) plagues many older lifters who continue to lift hard and heavy.
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This is what I have found to be true more than anything. I have dropped the weight a little on some exercises so I hold the contraction more and squeeze the target muscle group. I still go heavier than most people ever do but someone seeing me lift right now would jump to the WRONG CONCLUSION if they assumed that this was all I could lift simply because that is all I went up to that day.
I know a lot of older lifters who don’t lift as heavy anymore. However, they look the way do because they spent most of their youth lifting heavier than most people gym could ever do.[/quote]
So, you recommend to younger lifters striving to reach a lifting poundage ceiling as high as they can to help promoting maximal hypertrophy in the future?
[quote]MEYMZ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
anonym wrote:
Perhaps these older folks were lifting bigger numbers than you back in the day and have since decided to either ease up/slow down on the weights in order to “refine” their build (using different techniques and methods to focus more on the muscle working rather than jacking up more and more weight)… maybe in an attempt to avoid the wear and tear on the joints/connective tissue that (I hear) plagues many older lifters who continue to lift hard and heavy.
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This is what I have found to be true more than anything. I have dropped the weight a little on some exercises so I hold the contraction more and squeeze the target muscle group. I still go heavier than most people ever do but someone seeing me lift right now would jump to the WRONG CONCLUSION if they assumed that this was all I could lift simply because that is all I went up to that day.
I know a lot of older lifters who don’t lift as heavy anymore. However, they look the way do because they spent most of their youth lifting heavier than most people gym could ever do.
So, you recommend to younger lifters striving to reach a lifting poundage ceiling as high as they can to help promoting maximal hypertrophy in the future?[/quote]
Hasn’t that been what I have been saying for nearly ten years here?
The message is the same over and over, use your youth to build as much size and strength as you can. You will NOT be able to gain size as easily once you get over the age of 35…and those who are older than that are shit out of luck if they think they will go from skinny to huge after missing out on the most naturally anabolic periods of their lives worrying about how lean they are instead of how much muscle they are carrying.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
anonym wrote:
Perhaps these older folks were lifting bigger numbers than you back in the day and have since decided to either ease up/slow down on the weights in order to “refine” their build (using different techniques and methods to focus more on the muscle working rather than jacking up more and more weight)… maybe in an attempt to avoid the wear and tear on the joints/connective tissue that (I hear) plagues many older lifters who continue to lift hard and heavy.
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This is what I have found to be true more than anything. I have dropped the weight a little on some exercises so I hold the contraction more and squeeze the target muscle group. I still go heavier than most people ever do but someone seeing me lift right now would jump to the WRONG CONCLUSION if they assumed that this was all I could lift simply because that is all I went up to that day.
I know a lot of older lifters who don’t lift as heavy anymore. However, they look the way do because they spent most of their youth lifting heavier than most people gym could ever do.
So, you recommend to younger lifters striving to reach a lifting poundage ceiling as high as they can to help promoting maximal hypertrophy in the future?
Hasn’t that been what I have been saying for nearly ten years here?
The message is the same over and over, use your youth to build as much size and strength as you can. You will NOT be able to gain size as easily once you get over the age of 35…and those who are older than that are shit out of luck if they think they will go from skinny to huge after missing out on the most naturally anabolic periods of their lives worrying about how lean they are instead of how much muscle they are carrying.[/quote]
thats why all the kids who are like young as hell like maybe 15 and doing everything right they are way ahead of the game.I mean x could u imagine if u new now what u did at 15 and were able to eat like that, my god haha
[quote]Professor X wrote:
MEYMZ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
anonym wrote:
Perhaps these older folks were lifting bigger numbers than you back in the day and have since decided to either ease up/slow down on the weights in order to “refine” their build (using different techniques and methods to focus more on the muscle working rather than jacking up more and more weight)… maybe in an attempt to avoid the wear and tear on the joints/connective tissue that (I hear) plagues many older lifters who continue to lift hard and heavy.
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This is what I have found to be true more than anything. I have dropped the weight a little on some exercises so I hold the contraction more and squeeze the target muscle group. I still go heavier than most people ever do but someone seeing me lift right now would jump to the WRONG CONCLUSION if they assumed that this was all I could lift simply because that is all I went up to that day.
I know a lot of older lifters who don’t lift as heavy anymore. However, they look the way do because they spent most of their youth lifting heavier than most people gym could ever do.
So, you recommend to younger lifters striving to reach a lifting poundage ceiling as high as they can to help promoting maximal hypertrophy in the future?
Hasn’t that been what I have been saying for nearly ten years here?
The message is the same over and over, use your youth to build as much size and strength as you can. You will NOT be able to gain size as easily once you get over the age of 35…and those who are older than that are shit out of luck if they think they will go from skinny to huge after missing out on the most naturally anabolic periods of their lives worrying about how lean they are instead of how much muscle they are carrying.[/quote]
Thanks for the reply X. I have noticed lately, tunning up my diet, that there’s no need to be afraid on gaining excess fat eating THE ADEQUATE SURPLUS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.
Other thing important is that the more muscle you gain during a bulking period (at a decent ratio, 3/1), the easier will be to cut because of the increased basal metabolic rate.
I guess I’ll return to the basics starting the mass phase of my first contest prep.
My first 5 training years were spent moving heavy weights (to the point of injury). Nowadays I’m very limited by my irreparable injuries and use sub-maximal weights while still making progress.
Maybe a bit OT, but those first five years of heavy lifting and eating - well, too much - had me ending up with one distinct advantage: I don’t easily lose muscle, even on very hypocaloric diets (on the other hand, it’s very hard for me to get rid of excess blubber, since I’ve eaten way too much for about 3 years).
Keep in mind a decent amount of s old folk (i’m 32) have shoulder issues so they go a little lighter on purpose. Especially alot of guys that have been lifting a while. So you can’t always go by bench. I, on the other hand wish I looked as big as some of the guys that bench less than me.
When I started training, I thought I was a badass as well, I was putting up 315 on the bench within my 1st year of training (looking at the older, bigger guys lifting less weight),… and yet I looked liked crap. I know it’s been said, but aside from individual differences, it’s a total time issue.
Assuming that you are actually training corrctly, and Prof X touched on this - not just moving from point A to point B, you can only grow so quickly. I’m almost 36, and although I still move relatively heavy weights, I don’t even bother attempting to move the weights I used to… BUT I have such a different approach to the actua movement involved. Slower executions, tighter squeezes and pauses, slight angling changes… these are things you will pick up over the years of spending time in the gym. Bodybuilding is not weightlifting.