Hereās some snatches from yesterday. 70 lbs I think:
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Sweet! I found your vids!
Looking good Deb! Get your Oly shoes already :P[/quote]
Iām working on it!
Yesterdayās snatch practicing. Not sure Iām getting faster though.
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Deb, in my opinion you need to work on the basic movement pattern and develop it before doing the kind of refinement drills offered in that instructional video. Youāre not coming close to reaching full extension and looking really rushed. Are you working on trying to get under the bar quick? If so, I think thatās a mistake. You should refine the stages in the order they occur or you will be developing bad habits.
Try this; from the same starting position, just above the knees, pull it in slow motion until your hips are at FULL extension, you shoulders are 3/4 shrugged and youāre coming up on the balls of your feet. Go back down in slow motion and repeat. Keep doing this until you are really feeling it and know you can do it explosively. It may take 3 or 4 sets of five, or more likely with your athleticism, it will only take two or three reps.
I think the most important thing to take into consideration is, you always want to find yourself in this scoop/power/pockets position, whatever you want to call it. I can do this position good from the high hang, or above knee, but then go to the floor and mess it all up. But when I remind myself to get into that power position, and not think about much else during the lift, it usually turns out pretty good.
How you get to that power position is not irrelevant of course, but with me, most of my concentration is focused on getting into that position for the powerful hip explosion during a lift. How I get there just comes naturally I guessā¦ Knees back, hips back, chest up on first pullā¦ once Iām at above knee or so, if I just aim for that power position, the rest usually takes care of itselfā¦
Thanks guys! I was doing more of these yesterday and just as I started to feel it click I lost it lol. More practice needed!
I have a question about a drill my trainer has me doing to practice getting under the bar. Itās pretty much the same as these:
They seem to be helping me get used to getting under the bar but once Iāve locked out it feels very wrong lowering the bar back behind my neck like a behind the neck press. When I just use the bar or light weight of course itās fine.
Iāve read in the BB forums and other places that BTN presses arenāt recommended for their potential for injury so Iām wonder if these are a good idea to do with weight?
takes some practice. my guess is you can get injured if you mess it up. But then again ive seen people with 300+ pounds that almost looked as if they just let it drop on their shoulders/back and were just fine.
They seem to be helping me get used to getting under the bar but once Iāve locked out it feels very wrong lowering the bar back behind my neck like a behind the neck press. When I just use the bar or light weight of course itās fine.
Iāve read in the BB forums and other places that BTN presses arenāt recommended for their potential for injury so Iām wonder if these are a good idea to do with weight?[/quote]
Unfortunately, there is no EASY way to lower any significant amount of weight back onto your shoulders. The best you can do is to try and bend at the knees a little to āabsorbā the weight when you lower it to your traps. Ultimately, itās probably best to only use this as a drill/warm up and avoid doing reps with heavy weights.
Personally, I only do drop snathces/balances as my war up routine with just the bar. While it is important to āget underā the bar I know I fell victim to worrying about this too soon and ended up cutting my second pull short.
The two pieces of advice Iāve heard regarding getting under the bar:
Don McCauley uses this queue, āretreat the hipsā.
Charles Staley suggested to think of a button over your head that you have to extend up to to hit with your head (second pull) and having that button open a trap door below your feet (third pull - under the bar)- all the way up and then down!
Personally Iāve found that when the weight gets heavy enough āgetting underā happens naturally, else you donāt make the lift
I have also heard that the ābehind the neckā position (including lat pulldowns/pullups behind the neck and even upright rowing) is not good for shoulder health - though I believe it is more or a chronic than an acute issue. So perhaps for the occasional drill or even a set of snatch grip push presses once in a while may not be too harmful.
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But then again ive seen people with 300+ pounds that almost looked as if they just let it drop on their shoulders/back and were just fine.
