[quote]Koing wrote:
[quote]laujik wrote:
Hahah ‘stop being a fanny’ - Well abs would be a bonus, I mainly want to be able to train year around while staying very close to my comp weight. I’ve also never done it before and would like to experience what its like.
Also I wouldn’t be doing straight keto as I would die during training. Id be doing weekly carb ups (or atleast a meal or two) and progressively see how it goes from there. Depending when how brutal training becomes, I may add another carb meal mid week. So really its probably closer to a carb cycling approach or anabolic diet than keto. Bad wording.
My theory though is that training specifically for OLifting only involves ATP and recovery in between sets (3-5mins) is initiated by the oxidative system anyways. So as long as there is weekly carb ups, I wouldn’t see a huge change.
Also Koing, I read about what your bro did before his comp when you mentioned that before. That’s a ton of weight to lose without much strength loss. Glad it works so well for him.
I also agree with certain goal in mind, but I was mainly focusing on doing it year round with increased calories and see how training goes. In the end my body type might totally reject this idea or it might become accustomed to it.[/quote]
You have 2 issues:
Do you want to look good or lift f0cking huge weights?
You dont’ have to be a slob to lift weights man. Just eat enough to maintain your energy levels and not pack on the pounds. Theres no reason to be more then 3-4kg over your class weight unless your injured imo. Maybe 5kg tops if your a 105kg class lifter. The cut will hurt you.
My bro only does it to qualify and for the Nationals. He doesn’t stay 69kg all year around. That would be usless for training. He stays 73-74 at the absolute top. He’s also lean with an 8 pack at 74kg but he when he’s down to 69kg he’s fairly ripped and kept most of his strength but he makes up with it his technique when he lifts. Don’t get me wrong ALL of his pure strength numbers are down. The only one that isn’t is probably the pull ups as it’s off set by losing 4-5kg. He does have carbs also.
Just maintain your bw so your about 2-3kg above your weight class. He was also sleeping A LOT which would help his recovery. But don’t let my bros results fool you. He is definitely a better lift at 72-73-74kg mate then at 69kg. He gets a lot of value out of a compeition with the crowd, peaking and adrenaline boost. I’d imagine if he did a comp at 72-73-74 he would lift a decent chunk more. The last 2-3 weeks he feels pretty shit but soliders on as he needs to be 69kg. No use being 69.5 or 70kg.
Not sure a weekly carb up would help that much if your training 3-4x a week. It’ll help for the session after the carb day but the other sessions you may feel it in the long run? But it may not. Try it and let us know.
Koing[/quote]
yeah i agree that a weekly carb up isnt worth shit compared to carbs around training. I find i can pack in 100g right after training and keep my shit fairly sparese else where and really spartan at night and drop big lbs while staying hot on the bar [cept today cuz my thumb is fucked].
I find cutting out the junk food and doing a microscopic amount of conditioning is all it takes to de-fatten.
-chris