Ok Deadlift But Weak Squat

My squat is very weak compared to my deadlift. I realize that they are two different lifts, but I’ve been making decent gains in my deadlift and other lifts while the squat has been the same for a while.
I have been on WS4SB for the past 4-5 months and have been making decent gains on everything but the squat soon failed to rise while the rest kept going.
Currently I’m squatting 235lb for 5, while deadlifting 345lb for 5. Hell even my bench is close to the squat at around 225lb x5. I know that they’re not the greatest numbers but look at it comparatively.

I feel like the squat is failing midway, just a little after coming out the hole. I think it might be my back/glutes that are giving out but this doesn’t make much sense to me seeing as the deadlift emphasizes those two. I tend to lean forward as more weight is loaded onto the bar. Just to let you know i squat ATG, no quarters, no bs.

I’ve been thinking of starting box squats or good mornings but thought I’d pop in for some advice first.
Thanks for the help.

C-Bonics

Boxes and Good mornings are deffently good Ideas. But maybe its time to change things up b/c 5 months on any program is a long time, exspeshaly if its not working(for your squats)

Search Dave Tate and read everything he has to say on improving ones squat. Here are 2 link you can check out. They dont talk about squats spesificly much but there are some good overall pointers in there.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=881528
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=880036

First, change your program. Himora’s dead right on this one.

Second, are you eating enough to progress? This is more of an issue when all your lifts have stalled at once, but it might be that your squat is just the first to go.

Third… to bring up your squat, try doing isometrics in at your sticking point. Set pins a little beneath your sticking point, load up 225 (because it’s easy, and it’s close to your 5 rm) and hold it AT your sticking point for 30 sec. Repeat for 3 sets, two or three times a week (or whatever you can work into your program).

I agree with Himora, I’d also read everything Mike Robertson has written on the squat.

It’s likely that you have much better leverages for deadlifting than you do squatting. Don’t use this as an excuse, but you will have to work a lot harder for gains on your squat. You also need to make sure your form is flawless to make up for your leverage disadvantages.

A 100 lb difference between your squat and dl really isn’t that uncommon. Beginners tend to be much better at the deadlift than the squat anyways, so it may just be a matter of getting stronger.

Read up and do the box squats and gm’s.

[quote]tedro wrote:
I agree with Himora, I’d also read everything Mike Robertson has written on the squat.

It’s likely that you have much better leverages for deadlifting than you do squatting. Don’t use this as an excuse, but you will have to work a lot harder for gains on your squat. You also need to make sure your form is flawless to make up for your leverage disadvantages.

A 100 lb difference between your squat and dl really isn’t that uncommon. Beginners tend to be much better at the deadlift than the squat anyways, so it may just be a matter of getting stronger.

Read up and do the box squats and gm’s.[/quote]

Yeah that’s pretty much true. My leverages are definitely built around the deadlift…benching sucks! and improving my squat takes a ton more time than my pulling. But it can be done. Also, the comment on beginners is right on–my squat is much closer to my DL in weight now 6.5 years after starting, even though it’s still weaker compared to the DL. It happens, just overcome.