i use the standing oh press and i dlike it mainly because when working out alone it was good compared to the seated version but with the push press i never liked it. I always ended up using leg drive stoping and then pressing up lol
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
jck524 wrote:
I thought Push press was better for putting on size? I thought the saying goes, lift for strength eat for size…
You lift for strength in the hypertrophy zone and that doesn’t work without eating a ton.
Goddamn overused/oversimplified sayings here. People misunderstand that shit all the time and think that they should do heavy singles or doubles on the bench, squat and deadlift and that they will somehow end up looking like a bodybuilder.
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im talking about 5 x 5, not singles or doubles.
I think it would be smarter to do Push press when doing 5 x 5 rather than military press.
[quote]jck524 wrote:
I think it would be smarter to do Push press when doing 5 x 5 rather than military press.[/quote]
Why?
I of course say both too… what i like to do is the following; I do a standing military press strict form, then as i fail i turn it into a push press incrementally, i guess it is cheat pressing, but it works for a great overload.
As i have trained alone for the most part during my 14 years total training life i tend to incorporate alot of partials and especially Cheat movements after failure to replace the spotter giving me some assistance with forced reps.
I also like to do the big power exercises with heavy-ass weight first - to failure… then as the second exercise use a more strict isolative move - still compound mind you with explosive and accelerating positives and slow controlled negatives.
Push press followed by military press would be a CNS demanding but effective variation of this.
Brook
I usually start out with the push press since I can go heavier on it than OHP or dumbell press. I also like to do a slow negative with the push press for the heavier weight. I think it also gets me loosened up for other shoulder exercises since its more of a dynamic movement.