Officer Rivieri

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[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
Nephorm, he’s a KID. Kids are supposed to be irritating.

Officers are supposed to be able to discern between a situation warranting physical intervention and one that does not.

I honestly can’t believe you’re arguing this.[/quote]

No. Kids are supposed to shut the fuck up. And if the rules are to not be skateboarding in a certain area, don’t be fucking skateboarding there.

Your incessant bullshit about there being a “chokehold” is laughable. There was nothing even close to a choke anywhere.

You have completely overreacted to a little punk assed bitch getting called out.

Go cry somewhere else. It’s getting old.

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…and that’s why there are slugs like you in the world, Rainjack.

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[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
…and that’s why there are slugs like you in the world, Rainjack.

[/quote]

You make no sense.

Please give me your definition of “slug”.

You act like a spoiled little child.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
Nephorm, he’s a KID. Kids are supposed to be irritating.

Officers are supposed to be able to discern between a situation warranting physical intervention and one that does not.

I honestly can’t believe you’re arguing this.

No. Kids are supposed to shut the fuck up. And if the rules are to not be skateboarding in a certain area, don’t be fucking skateboarding there.

Your incessant bullshit about there being a “chokehold” is laughable. There was nothing even close to a choke anywhere.

You have completely overreacted to a little punk assed bitch getting called out.

Go cry somewhere else. It’s getting old. [/quote]

What irritates me, is sitting around wondering when cops became parents. It isn’t the officer’s job to teach the kid how he should behave, it’s his parents. It is your God given right as an American to be immature if you want, it isn�??t against the law. By your own statement, teens should be treated differently than adults in the eyes of police.

As a teenager, I had 2 major encounters with police officers and they both disrespected and even threatened me with physical violence for nothing. They came to my house looking for my brother and I didn’t know where he was. I was polite, respectful and honest, and they threatened to �??rearrange my face�??.

The first time they even came into the house unannounced while I was home alone and scared me shitless when I was 15, which is illegal. Fortunately for me my dad came home, and their tunes changed. Ironically enough, one of the things my brother was in trouble for was selling steroids, among other things, mostly to cops (by his account).

I don�??t think that there is any more hypocritical demographic on earth than �??law enforcement.�?? For those few honest cops out there, bless you for all that you do. For the rest of the power tripping, dishonest, bribe taking, pieces of garbage that think their opinion is the law, and it�??s there right to �??teach people manors�?? FU!

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
rainjack wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
Nephorm, he’s a KID. Kids are supposed to be irritating.

Officers are supposed to be able to discern between a situation warranting physical intervention and one that does not.

I honestly can’t believe you’re arguing this.

No. Kids are supposed to shut the fuck up. And if the rules are to not be skateboarding in a certain area, don’t be fucking skateboarding there.

Your incessant bullshit about there being a “chokehold” is laughable. There was nothing even close to a choke anywhere.

You have completely overreacted to a little punk assed bitch getting called out.

Go cry somewhere else. It’s getting old.

What irritates me, is sitting around wondering when cops became parents. It isn’t the officer’s job to teach the kid how he should behave, it’s his parents. It is your God given right as an American to be immature if you want, it isn�??t against the law. By your own statement, teens should be treated differently than adults in the eyes of police.

As a teenager, I had 2 major encounters with police officers and they both disrespected and even threatened me with physical violence for nothing. They came to my house looking for my brother and I didn’t know where he was. I was polite, respectful and honest, and they threatened to �??rearrange my face�??.

The first time they even came into the house unannounced while I was home alone and scared me shitless when I was 15, which is illegal. Fortunately for me my dad came home, and their tunes changed. Ironically enough, one of the things my brother was in trouble for was selling steroids, among other things, mostly to cops (by his account).

I don�??t think that there is any more hypocritical demographic on earth than �??law enforcement.�?? For those few honest cops out there, bless you for all that you do. For the rest of the power tripping, dishonest, bribe taking, pieces of garbage that think their opinion is the law, and it�??s there right to �??teach people manors�?? FU![/quote]

Absolutely

What blows my mind is there are people in this thread that think respect is established by physically attacking a 14 year old.

Bullshit, that’s called fear. That is control by fear-tactics, and resorting to that is a tactic used by punk kids and immature adults. IN this case, an immature cop on a power trip.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
I don�??t think that there is any more hypocritical demographic on earth than �??law enforcement.�?? For those few honest cops out there, bless you for all that you do. For the rest of the power tripping, dishonest, bribe taking, pieces of garbage that think their opinion is the law, and it�??s there right to �??teach people manors�?? FU![/quote]

What happens if you harm an officer for breaking and entering?

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[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
I don�??t think that there is any more hypocritical demographic on earth than �??law enforcement.�?? For those few honest cops out there, bless you for all that you do. For the rest of the power tripping, dishonest, bribe taking, pieces of garbage that think their opinion is the law, and it�??s there right to �??teach people manors�?? FU!

What happens if you harm an officer for breaking and entering?[/quote]

I wouldn’t want to find out. My parents wouldn’t let me file a complaint either, because they thought it would come back on my brother.

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[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
What happens if you harm an officer for breaking and entering?[/quote]

It depends, and this is really a problem, especially since they can get no-knock warrants.

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I really can’t fathom how someone can watch that video and think that the officer behaved appropriately.

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[quote]Flow wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
rainjack wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
Nephorm, he’s a KID. Kids are supposed to be irritating.

Officers are supposed to be able to discern between a situation warranting physical intervention and one that does not.

I honestly can’t believe you’re arguing this.

No. Kids are supposed to shut the fuck up. And if the rules are to not be skateboarding in a certain area, don’t be fucking skateboarding there.

Your incessant bullshit about there being a “chokehold” is laughable. There was nothing even close to a choke anywhere.

You have completely overreacted to a little punk assed bitch getting called out.

Go cry somewhere else. It’s getting old.

What irritates me, is sitting around wondering when cops became parents. It isn’t the officer’s job to teach the kid how he should behave, it’s his parents. It is your God given right as an American to be immature if you want, it isn�??t against the law. By your own statement, teens should be treated differently than adults in the eyes of police.

As a teenager, I had 2 major encounters with police officers and they both disrespected and even threatened me with physical violence for nothing. They came to my house looking for my brother and I didn’t know where he was. I was polite, respectful and honest, and they threatened to �??rearrange my face�??.

The first time they even came into the house unannounced while I was home alone and scared me shitless when I was 15, which is illegal. Fortunately for me my dad came home, and their tunes changed. Ironically enough, one of the things my brother was in trouble for was selling steroids, among other things, mostly to cops (by his account).

I don�??t think that there is any more hypocritical demographic on earth than �??law enforcement.�?? For those few honest cops out there, bless you for all that you do. For the rest of the power tripping, dishonest, bribe taking, pieces of garbage that think their opinion is the law, and it�??s there right to �??teach people manors�?? FU!

Absolutely

What blows my mind is there are people in this thread that think respect is established by physically attacking a 14 year old.

Bullshit, that’s called fear. That is control by fear-tactics, and resorting to that is a tactic used by punk kids and immature adults. IN this case, an immature cop on a power trip.[/quote]

The law works on fear tactic. Religion does as well. All form of control is a fear tactic. Your statement is retarded.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I really can’t fathom how someone can watch that video and think that the officer behaved appropriately. [/quote]

I can’t fathom people watching a video that only captures half the story thinking they have enough information to draw and quarter the cop.

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[quote]blazindave wrote:

The law works on fear tactic. Religion does as well. All form of control is a fear tactic. Your statement is retarded.
[/quote]

Shucks, and my mama, told me about reason and faith. I would hate to live in your world where all actions are coerced by fear and self preservation. I do Things for my parents and loved ones, though I’m not afraid of reprisal. My girlfriend exhibits control over me and we obey each other because of love. I go to church because I believe it’s right. I think your outlook is a little narrow.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
I really can’t fathom how someone can watch that video and think that the officer behaved appropriately.

I can’t fathom people watching a video that only captures half the story thinking they have enough information to draw and quarter the cop.

[/quote]

You also saw half the story and thought you had enough information to draw and quarter the kid.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
blazindave wrote:

The law works on fear tactic. Religion does as well. All form of control is a fear tactic. Your statement is retarded.

Shucks, and my mama, told me about reason and faith. I would hate to live in your world where all actions are coerced by fear and self preservation. I do Things for my parents and loved ones, though I’m not afraid of reprisal. My girlfriend exhibits control over me and we obey each other because of love. I go to church because I believe it’s right. I think your outlook is a little narrow.[/quote]

Lol!!
My ass. You go to church because you were brought up to believe that if you didn’t worship God that you would go to hell for all eternity. You think it’s “right”. That is laugh-able.
Reason comes from morals. Morals comes from religion. If you kill, steal, etc, God will PUNISH you. This is a fear tactic.
If your kid doesn’t do A, then B will happen. Fear tactic does not necessarily mean physical beating, but just a form of consequence.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
I really can’t fathom how someone can watch that video and think that the officer behaved appropriately.

I can’t fathom people watching a video that only captures half the story thinking they have enough information to draw and quarter the cop.

You also saw half the story and thought you had enough information to draw and quarter the kid.[/quote]

The kid was disobeying the cop. The cop was asking him about his parents and so forth. He wasn’t asking him to drop his pants. At one point the cop realised continuing on would be pointless and decided to a more physical approach.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
I really can’t fathom how someone can watch that video and think that the officer behaved appropriately.

I can’t fathom people watching a video that only captures half the story thinking they have enough information to draw and quarter the cop.

You also saw half the story and thought you had enough information to draw and quarter the kid.[/quote]

exactly.

and like I said, what do you think was part of the rest of the video before hand? think about it, this kid wasn’t being a total ass prior to the video. Anything that happened besides skateboarding was caught on camera.

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[quote]blazindave wrote:

The kid was disobeying the cop. The cop was asking him about his parents and so forth. He wasn’t asking him to drop his pants. At one point the cop realised continuing on would be pointless and decided to a more physical approach.

[/quote]

Lol, the lines we can hear from the kid are:

“Yeah.”

“Ok, I didn’t hear you.”

Then the cop flipped out and started screaming.

When the kid said he didn’t have a father the cop decided to put him to the ground and take his skateboard.

Basically, the cop didn’t like his tone. I wouldn’t say the kid was disobeying anyone. That’s how kids talk, and granted he should learn to speak to authority a little better, but at 14 you can hardly blame him.

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[quote]blazindave wrote:
DoubleDuce wrote:
blazindave wrote:

The law works on fear tactic. Religion does as well. All form of control is a fear tactic. Your statement is retarded.

Shucks, and my mama, told me about reason and faith. I would hate to live in your world where all actions are coerced by fear and self preservation. I do Things for my parents and loved ones, though I’m not afraid of reprisal. My girlfriend exhibits control over me and we obey each other because of love. I go to church because I believe it’s right. I think your outlook is a little narrow.

Lol!!
My ass. You go to church because you were brought up to believe that if you didn’t worship God that you would go to hell for all eternity. You think it’s “right”. That is laugh-able.
Reason comes from morals. Morals comes from religion. If you kill, steal, etc, God will PUNISH you. This is a fear tactic.
If your kid doesn’t do A, then B will happen. Fear tactic does not necessarily mean physical beating, but just a form of consequence.

LankyMofo wrote:
rainjack wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
I really can’t fathom how someone can watch that video and think that the officer behaved appropriately.

I can’t fathom people watching a video that only captures half the story thinking they have enough information to draw and quarter the cop.

You also saw half the story and thought you had enough information to draw and quarter the kid.

The kid was disobeying the cop. The cop was asking him about his parents and so forth. He wasn’t asking him to drop his pants. At one point the cop realised continuing on would be pointless and decided to a more physical approach.

[/quote]

Great, we can add mind reading to your repertoire. Who the hell are you to tell me what I believe and why. According to you there is no right or wrong, just what you can vs. can’t get away with. Unfortunately there are universal truths that go beyond your immature mentality. It’s why we can say things like “what Hitler did was wrong.”

By your logic, he got away with it, so more power to him. Just because every decision you make revolves solely around your wants, doesn’t give you the right to project your selfishness on everyone else. I hope that the people around you that love you never find out that your decision process is on the same level as a reflex or a cockroach, and in no way involves anyone else�??s feelings, needs or wants.

By the way, to the educated person the hell argument doesn’t hold water. In Christianity, according to the Bible, Hell is ultimately separation from God. If you don’t believe in God, what difference would it make. You must first have faith before your argument can make any sense.

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[quote]nephorm wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
I’m absolutely shocked that neph seems to be saying that there may be more to it than we know. In this instance no amount of mitigating circumstance justifies the reaction.

I don’t think I ever said that his actions were “justified.” I would like to think I would’ve handled the situation differently, had I been in his position.

What I doubt, however, is that his actions were criminal. And there is a big difference. One ought not conflate “asshole” with “criminal.”

Part of a police officer’s job is public relations. His actions were a failure, in that respect. But the child was not harmed, and the seizure of the skateboard may have been reasonable.

I refuse to pretend that this is some horrific example of police brutality.[/quote]

But if it doesnt justify it, then why point it out? … I dont know that I’d call it police brutality, but I would call it abuse of power, ie, he only thought he was entitled to do this because he had the power to do it, not because it was morally justified. Maybe I just misunderstood you tho, and if so, I apologize.

[the following is not directed at neph, just a comment in general]
I’ll also add that while I havent had a chance to read through the whole thread, when we had the above-mentioned flame storm on marunde, there were cops on both sides of the issue. I THINK there were more saying that this cop was way out of line - could be wrong tho. That spoke VOLUMES to me that it wasnt just some tie-died pinko hippie thing to be outraged and that this guy wasnt even being defended by people who deal with similar situations all day long.

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Fight the power!

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