[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
don’t fucking kid. He was so far out of bounds it is impossible to find an excuse.[/quote]
It is good that you were not alive/self-aware when the Rodney King beatings went down. Your head would’ve exploded.
I have a question about the officer’s uniform:
Is that a standard Baltimore PD uniform?
From my perspective, it’s an odd uniform for a police officer.
Is it possible the kid didn’t know he was dealing with a cop until it escalated into quasi-violence.
The dude looked more like a deliveryman than a authority figure.
Glorified metermaid perhaps?
That’s right, I called him dude.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
I thought he told them to stop, they didn’t hear it so he went ape shit on them.
so I guess I was wrong?
so if an officer tries to steal something, that’s alright? I’ve seen dozens of videos of rent a cops, and officers taking teenager’s stuff with no real penalty towards them.[/quote]
He isn’t stealing anything.
The dumb ass kid did something he wasn’t supposed to.
For once i agree with rainjack. It is fact that alot of kids are spoiled bitches and never know when to shut the fuck up.
I’m sure you’ve all had your share of moments where you wanted to murder a certain kid’s family.
It’s very easy to spin a story a certain way depending on how you tell it. For all we know the officer might have told them several times to stop what they were doing and they did not comply.
Maybe the officer was a bit too rough but if the kid(s) weren’t acting like stupid fucking retards then none of this would have happened.
This has nothing to do with rent a cop or anything. The guy is just doing his job and the kid is being a faggot.
It’s called respect.
First off, no one on this forum would’ve done shit to that cop.NOT A THING. What he says goes, right wrong or indifferent. With that, the cop was in the wrong and should be held accountable for his actions. As the tape is ending you can hear him say " Is that thing running? I better not see my self on…" He was using physical force when it was completely uneccessary. I hope he gets suspended.
I’d say the officer grossly overreacted, and has a giant chip on his shoulder in general. His behavior was over the top abusive… and reminiscent of the type that got his ass beat as a youth…alot. He strikes me as unbalanced.
I notice he had the kid call his mother, well…had I been the mother coming to pick up my kid (which isn’t a stretch since my ten year old skates) …and I saw that video, I would be outraged.
Basically it seems like the kid kept skating after being told not to, and claimed he didn’t hear the officer tell him to stop. Okay, fine that’s annoying…the officer was in his right to go and make a point and put a stop to it, but his tactics were just crude, violent and unnecessary. Believe me, I’m not the coddling sort, but that made me cringe. Much like some scenario when a kid doesn’t eat his vegetables and his father slams his head into the plate, all the guests get uncomfortable and the wife nervously asks who wants pie. Which I suspect, happened to that officer… one too many times.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
anonym wrote:
I hear ya - it’s easy to play QB when you’re sitting behind a computer with the luxury of hours and hours to think about the proper course of action.
I honestly couldn’t say how I would have reacted in that situation…it’s one of those things where you have to either be there or have been there to know how you would react in those heated few minutes.
It is strange to me that no one ever applies this logic to the behavior of police officers.[/quote]
I don’t know about the layperson, but at least the courts are supposed to do that with their judgements. Judges and juries aren’t supposed to have the benefit of hindsight, just the identical facts and circumstances as the officer knew them at the time of the incident.
[quote]AlteredState wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
First off, no one on this forum would’ve done shit to that cop.NOT A THING. What he says goes, right wrong or indifferent. With that, the cop was in the wrong and should be held accountable for his actions. As the tape is ending you can hear him say " Is that thing running? I better not see my self on…" He was using physical force when it was completely uneccessary. I hope he gets suspended.
Actually, had I been there, I would likely have interrupted the cop with “Excuse me sir, I don’t mean to interrupt your intimidation of this child, but as an English person I am rather shocked at your attitude. I feel that I should inform you that I intend to lodge a complaint with your superiors.”
Q: Would that have got me a trip to the police station or what?[/quote]
That would be a good way to approach it as a bystander.
The cop sounds like he has been watching too many movies with the things he said, “I’m not your father, you don’t speak to me like that.”
Either way, fact is we haven’t seen the whole situation from the start.
[quote]blazindave wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
I thought he told them to stop, they didn’t hear it so he went ape shit on them.
so I guess I was wrong?
so if an officer tries to steal something, that’s alright? I’ve seen dozens of videos of rent a cops, and officers taking teenager’s stuff with no real penalty towards them.
He isn’t stealing anything.
The dumb ass kid did something he wasn’t supposed to.
For once i agree with rainjack. It is fact that alot of kids are spoiled bitches and never know when to shut the fuck up.
I’m sure you’ve all had your share of moments where you wanted to murder a certain kid’s family.
It’s very easy to spin a story a certain way depending on how you tell it. For all we know the officer might have told them several times to stop what they were doing and they did not comply.
Maybe the officer was a bit too rough but if the kid(s) weren’t acting like stupid fucking retards then none of this would have happened.
This has nothing to do with rent a cop or anything. The guy is just doing his job and the kid is being a faggot.
It’s called respect.[/quote]
Maybe you didn’t watch the video, but the officer chokeholded the kid and pushed him into the concrete because the kid called him ‘Dude’.
You think it is acceptable behavior for an adult to push a kid around because the kid calls him a slang term? Yeah, a good beatin’ will establish respect, right? 
If you want ‘respect’ act like a reasonable human being. Remove the skateboard but don’t push the kid around. He did nothing to deserve that sort of physicality from a man twice his size and like two or three times his age.
That said, would the same thing have happened if this were a 16 year old highschooler, about the same size as Officer Rivieri?
[quote]5.0 wrote:
I don’t know about the layperson, but at least the courts are supposed to do that with their judgements. Judges and juries aren’t supposed to have the benefit of hindsight, just the identical facts and circumstances as the officer knew them at the time of the incident.[/quote]
Well, I was referring to laypeople evaluating the actions of officers after the fact.
[quote]rsg wrote:
Either way, fact is we haven’t seen the whole situation from the start.[/quote]
I posted this earlier:
Listen to what the first kid said at the beginning of the video:
“yeah i was trying to tell him but he had his earplugs in.”
So, all that happened beforehand was the cop told him to stop skateboarding. The cop wasn’t pissed at this point, so i don’t think the whole “we didn’t see the whole thing” argument holds water. the film starts with the cop about five feet from his car, and if he was coming back for a 2nd time, he’d be pissed, like he was later in the video.
Even if the cop WAS just going for the skateboard to hold it until the kid’s mom gets there, he was too rough in doing so. After he actually got the board, he shoved the kid back into the ground. THAT can’t be reasonably justified, and causes me to believe he knew exactly how rough he was being from the start.
The kid should have not talked back necessarily, but the cop took it way too far. He made it personal. “My name is not dude.” Not, “you don’t address police officers as dudes.” Kid was most likely not supposed to be skateboarding in that area. But being grabbed and the attempt of confiscating his property was wrong. He was suspended without pay, thank God taxpayers don’t have to pay for behavior like that. Not anymore anyway.
Of course! We here are too uneducated to understand the amount of force neccesary to preserve the law in this situation.
If we were all tough, beat cops like officer Rivieri we could appreciate the gravity of the situation.
If the kid gets away with skating in a public place- what next? he could develop into a dangerous, uncontrollable thug, gun for hire and crack dealer.
Officer Rivieri has enough narc shit on his hands without having to deal with this.
Nipping the problem in the bud, that’s what its called…
And don’t get me started on art students and their “moving boxes”…
Incidentaly, I feel that this would make a great movie…
Baltimore is going to hell…
Pussies, skateboards and people with no goddam respect stalk the streets…
Only one man can stop them…
“You’re being suspended from the force.”
“You can’t do this to me!”
“I told to stop with this shit, this time you’ve gone to far.”
“For Christsakes! I’m tryna clean up this goddam city!”
This summer…
An unconventional cop…
A city almost beyond redemption…
Officer Rivieri is… officer Rivieri
(cue Thunderstruck)
[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Of course! We here are too uneducated to understand the amount of force neccesary to preserve the law in this situation.
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Not my point at all.
I bet that cop has major inadequacy issues. He reminds me of a couple of teachers I had in high school.
Hopefully that kid has now learnt that even if a cop is being a complete douche, you should always politely agree with them and apologize if necessary.
[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Well, I was referring to laypeople evaluating the actions of officers after the fact.
Of course! We here are too uneducated to understand the amount of force neccesary to preserve the law in this situation.
If we were all tough, beat cops like officer Rivieri we could appreciate the gravity of the situation.
If the kid gets away with skating in a public place- what next? he could develop into a dangerous, uncontrollable thug, gun for hire and crack dealer.
Officer Rivieri has enough narc shit on his hands without having to deal with this.
Nipping the problem in the bud, that’s what its called…
And don’t get me started on art students and their “moving boxes”…
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Lol
[quote]nephorm wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
don’t fucking kid. He was so far out of bounds it is impossible to find an excuse.
It is good that you were not alive/self-aware when the Rodney King beatings went down. Your head would’ve exploded.[/quote]
I remember that
also remember living through the riots at my aunts house.
was not a good time to be a white family Ill tell you that much
[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Well, I was referring to laypeople evaluating the actions of officers after the fact.
Of course! We here are too uneducated to understand the amount of force neccesary to preserve the law in this situation.
If we were all tough, beat cops like officer Rivieri we could appreciate the gravity of the situation.
If the kid gets away with skating in a public place- what next? he could develop into a dangerous, uncontrollable thug, gun for hire and crack dealer.
Officer Rivieri has enough narc shit on his hands without having to deal with this.
Nipping the problem in the bud, that’s what its called…
And don’t get me started on art students and their “moving boxes”…
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yeah skateboading is the real gateway crime in the world. i heard it’s just a cover for gun running and the kids are really midgets…
seriously dude are you fucking kidding me? what kind of dickhead are you suggesting that because a child is allowed to skateboard in a public place he’s going to become a gun for hire?
if you were being sarcastic please excuse me but otherwise please, listen to arnold…
[quote]AlteredState wrote:
WhiteFlash wrote:
First off, no one on this forum would’ve done shit to that cop.NOT A THING. What he says goes, right wrong or indifferent. With that, the cop was in the wrong and should be held accountable for his actions.
As the tape is ending you can hear him say " Is that thing running? I better not see my self on…" He was using physical force when it was completely uneccessary. I hope he gets suspended.
Actually, had I been there, I would likely have interrupted the cop with “Excuse me sir, I don’t mean to interrupt your intimidation of this child, but as an English person I am rather shocked at your attitude. I feel that I should inform you that I intend to lodge a complaint with your superiors.”
Q: Would that have got me a trip to the police station or what?[/quote]
I meant physically. But, that would be definitely be the best way to handle it.