[quote]nephorm wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
When he ATTACKED the kid, that’s when the problem arises.
He did not attack the kid. He tried to take the skateboard, and the kid clutched on to it as though it were for dear life. There is a big difference.[/quote]
theft is ok?
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
nephorm wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
When he ATTACKED the kid, that’s when the problem arises.
He did not attack the kid. He tried to take the skateboard, and the kid clutched on to it as though it were for dear life. There is a big difference.
theft is ok?[/quote]
He basically put wrapped the kid’s head in his arms nad brought him to the ground. Then shoved him back as he tried to get up, which he luckily didn’t hit his head on the asphalt.
That’s not how you treat someone unless they are being hostile. This kid was just an idiot and didn’t realize how seriously this office takes himself.
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
I love how the logical reaction is to kick the cop’s ass…
You do not know what happened before the camera was turned on. He asked for the skateboard before he got physical. I’ve seen posts on here saying “Cops do not get respect because they are not a threat and could not beat up my grandma.” I do agree cops do not get the respect they deserve which the video is a perfect example. Then a cop takes a skateboard away from some punk ass kid who didn’t listen the first time and you guys are acting like he beat this kid to death.
The whole “fuck the cops” thing is stupid. The same people would call the cops first if their house was being robbed or something of that nature.
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You have the wrong idea. What the video portrays is some kid who was midnign his own fucking buisness, skating. Offcer douchebag assualts the kid and attempts to STEAL from the kid. Police officers asaulting a kid? You wouldn’t step in? You’re a fucking coward. There is NO FUCKING EXCUSE for a grown man to beat a fucking kid half his size.
that cop is an embarassment to cops who are out there every day, doing their job trying to keep people safe, and all in all not going on a fucking power trip over their job. Police officers can be great people. They are there to HELP PEOPLE. they are PUBLIC SERVANTS payed for with taxpayer money. THEY ARE NOT THERE TO ATTCK KIDS SKATING.
I honestly can’t believe people saying they wouldn’t step in if a cop was beating on a kid like that. You’re just as bad as that police officer.
It didn’t look like that guy had a partner with him either. If there was another person who wasn’t a nutjob with him, I doubt this would of happened.
He told the kid he’s not his father, so he will beat the shit out of him. would you like it if a grown man hit your kids rainjack? If you don’t care I feel fucking bad for your kids.
I for one think the cop was in the wrong, but I would not have stepped in. That’s a legal nightmare right there for you.
Now, if the cop were being violent in which in threatened the safety of the person, that’s a different story.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I for one think the cop was in the wrong, but I would not have stepped in. That’s a legal nightmare right there for you.
Now, if the cop were being violent in which in threatened the safety of the person, that’s a different story.
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fair enough. I would of freaked out when a big ass grown man was on top of some twiggy teenager though. I think you underestimate what kidn of damage concrete can do to ones head :).
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
I think you underestimate what kidn of damage concrete can do to ones head :).[/quote]
Shit didn’t bother me none, look how I turned out.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
You have the wrong idea. What the video portrays is some kid who was midnign his own fucking buisness, skating. Offcer douchebag assualts the kid and attempts to STEAL from the kid. Police officers asaulting a kid? You wouldn’t step in? You’re a fucking coward. There is NO FUCKING EXCUSE for a grown man to beat a fucking kid half his size.
that cop is an embarassment to cops who are out there every day, doing their job trying to keep people safe, and all in all not going on a fucking power trip over their job. Police officers can be great people. They are there to HELP PEOPLE. they are PUBLIC SERVANTS payed for with taxpayer money. THEY ARE NOT THERE TO ATTCK KIDS SKATING.[/quote]
You do not know that he “steal[s]” the skateboard. It appears to me he is having the kid contact his mom. He will probably have the mother come and pick him up and give the board back to her. This is me speaking from experience, as I am the son of a cop.
And some of you guys remind me of soccer and basketball players who think they’re going to receive a foul, hopping around on one leg until it is apparent they are not going to get one. What the officer did to that kid was no where close to an “attack.”
The kid was disrespectful and the officer, though a little bit melodramatic, didn’t do anything I saw as deserving the amount of screeching on this forum.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
You have the wrong idea. What the video portrays is some kid who was midnign his own fucking buisness, skating. Offcer douchebag assualts the kid and attempts to STEAL from the kid. Police officers asaulting a kid? You wouldn’t step in? You’re a fucking coward. There is NO FUCKING EXCUSE for a grown man to beat a fucking kid half his size.
that cop is an embarassment to cops who are out there every day, doing their job trying to keep people safe, and all in all not going on a fucking power trip over their job. Police officers can be great people. They are there to HELP PEOPLE. they are PUBLIC SERVANTS payed for with taxpayer money. THEY ARE NOT THERE TO ATTCK KIDS SKATING.
You do not know that he “steal[s]” the skateboard. It appears to me he is having the kid contact his mom. He will probably have the mother come and pick him up and give the board back to her. This is me speaking from experience, as I am the son of a cop.
And some of you guys remind me of soccer and basketball players who think they’re going to receive a foul, hopping around on one leg until it is apparent they are not going to get one. What the officer did to that kid was no where close to an “attack.”
The kid was disrespectful and the officer, though a little bit melodramatic, didn’t do anything I saw as deserving the amount of screeching on this forum.[/quote]
I hope your kidding right? The guy went nuts, the kid was fucking scared and confused. I’m sorry, if you try to take my personal property from me, I will not let you, cop or no. Look through a bag? yes. Take something? NO.
I’m sorry, don’t grab people by the throat and take their possesions. Me, and anyone with self respect should fight back.
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
The whole “fuck the cops” thing is stupid. The same people would call the cops first if their house was being robbed or something of that nature.
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just have to throw this out there.
I am saying fuck the cops,in my neck of the woods they are nothing more than a corupt money making machine.
some decent ones are out there but the most part they are power hungry punk ass kids that are allowed to shoot people and lie about it after.
about me calling them,I have never once called the police about anything,ever.if you are really a victim and you expect the police to help you I feel sorry for you.
lets wait untill you get your house emptied out then lets see if you still have your faith in the supermen that will tell you “ok, we will get on this”
I also live in a rual area now where the response time if needed is about 45 mins to an hour and a half,by then if I waited for my knight in a beat up ford to show up and save the day then I would be dead.
Someone with more experience, tell me when it is appropriate for a Baltimore, Maryland policeman to restrain a KID in that fashion.
Given what’s in the video, I think that chokehold was way out of line.
I’m surprised there are people that see that as legitimate behavior in this case. . . The kid is 14. 14. 14.
I’d hate to see how a 14 year old son of that cop would be treated for calling his father something other than ‘sir’.
He’s walking the line between police officer and power-trip officer.
He disrespected him? No swearing, no pissiness. He talked in a calm manor. Officer douchebag needs to get fucked.
Why the fuck do police officers, even the ones in safe suberbs have to act like hardasses because of ‘the badge’. If you went to Iraq or Afganistan, I’ll outright thank you for serving. If you’re some d-bag police officer on a ego trip driving around accomplishing nothing in some randomass town, politeness only lasts until you get grabbed by the throat.
I’ve never had ANY altercations with police officers that went poorly. I’m polite as hell to everyone, but I don’t see how ANY of you wouldn’t of been pushed over the limit if grabbed by the throat over NOTHING by a police officer.
This is why I train. So I don’t have to be bullied by some old fuck on a ego trip and to make sure others don’t have to be put in that situation either. Why do you?
What is it going to take for some of you to face the proverbial lion. Afraid to face law charges? If you think getting asaulted by a police officer and defending yourself is bad, we live in a shitty world. BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST AS SOON LET IT HAPPEN.
He punked a 14 yr old kid because that is all he can do. Like I said, were he to try that down here in South Central Los Angeles, Detroit, NY, Chicago, or any other place where crime is horrible, he would never make it. He is punking a 14 yr old skater from the burbs. Should he try that one someone of significant age and size, you would see a chin check of all time.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
He punked a 14 yr old kid because that is all he can do. Like I said, were he to try that down here in South Central Los Angeles, Detroit, NY, Chicago, or any other place where crime is horrible, he would never make it. He is punking a 14 yr old skater from the burbs. Should he try that one someone of significant age and size, you would see a chin check of all time. [/quote]
Well, Bmore is one of the worst cities as well. You don’t want to be walking in downtown late at night.
However, the inner harbor is quite different even though it’s all in the same city.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
What is it going to take for some of you to face the proverbial lion. Afraid to face law charges? If you think getting asaulted by a police officer and defending yourself is bad, we live in a shitty world. BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST AS SOON LET IT HAPPEN.[/quote]
True true true.
Those that would let it happen, would probably respond differently if they were the victim. Even those saying this is an appropriate use of police force would be hard pressed to restrain themselves from a police officer chokeholding them over a nonviolent verbal altercation.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
What is it going to take for some of you to face the proverbial lion. Afraid to face law charges? If you think getting asaulted by a police officer and defending yourself is bad, we live in a shitty world. BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST AS SOON LET IT HAPPEN.[/quote]
It’s called either picking your battles or, if necessary, choosing the appropriate strategy for attack.
Given that the kids life was NOT IN DANGER during this encounter, assaulting a police officer is NOT the correct way to handle the altercation. There are other means for you to take him down a peg or two without the very real risk of a felony conviction (I’ve already outlined what I believe would be the best way to intervene).
Your choice of words to describe this altercation is interesting, as well. You use the term “attack” and describe the situation as Riviera “beating” a kid half his size. You also say the officer threatened to “beat the shit out of him” (what he said was ‘smack him upside the head’).
And, yes, yes, I hear the lingo thrown around here…“when the wolf comes”, “the proverbial lion”, etc…but, despite what some on this site may believe, lifting weights means one thing, and one thing only - you lift weights. Proving you are a man means handling situations such as this with an appropriate, measured response that deals damage to the offensive party WHILE COVERING YOUR OWN ASS (hint: punching him doesn’t consitute covering your legal bases).
I’m not saying I didn’t feel the officer was out of line (and I certainly am not defending his actions). I just hope I can properly illustrate the point that there is nothing manly about a rap sheet.
[quote]anonym wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
What is it going to take for some of you to face the proverbial lion. Afraid to face law charges? If you think getting asaulted by a police officer and defending yourself is bad, we live in a shitty world. BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST AS SOON LET IT HAPPEN.
It’s called either picking your battles or, if necessary, choosing the appropriate strategy for attack.
Given that the kids life was NOT IN DANGER during this encounter, assaulting a police officer is NOT the correct way to handle the altercation. There are other means for you to take him down a peg or two without the very real risk of a felony conviction (I’ve already outlined what I believe would be the best way to intervene).
Your choice of words to describe this altercation is interesting, as well. You use the term “attack” and describe the situation as Riviera “beating” a kid half his size. You also say the officer threatened to “beat the shit out of him” (what he said was ‘smack him upside the head’).
And, yes, yes, I hear the lingo thrown around here…“when the wolf comes”, “the proverbial lion”, etc…but, despite what some on this site may believe, lifting weights means one thing, and one thing only - you lift weights. Proving you are a man means handling situations such as this with an appropriate, measured response that deals damage to the offensive party WHILE COVERING YOUR OWN ASS (hint: punching him doesn’t consitute covering your legal bases).
I’m not saying I didn’t feel the officer was out of line (and I certainly am not defending his actions). I just hope I can properly illustrate the point that there is nothing manly about a rap sheet.[/quote]
I see what your saying, but I honestly feel that in that sort of situation. You have no idea what might happen to the kid if you just leave him with said officer. The ideal thing to do would be placing your body in between officer and kid and minimizing physical contact until other (hopefully sane) officers arrive.
I would however, be a lot more hot headed, had that kid been a relation, or close friend of mine.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
I see what your saying, but I honestly feel that in that sort of situation. You have no idea what might happen to the kid if you just leave him with said officer. The ideal thing to do would be placing your body in between officer and kid and minimizing physical contact until other (hopefully sane) officers arrive.
I would however, be a lot more hot headed, had that kid been a relation, or close friend of mine.[/quote]
I hear ya - it’s easy to play QB when you’re sitting behind a computer with the luxury of hours and hours to think about the proper course of action.
I honestly couldn’t say how I would have reacted in that situation…it’s one of those things where you have to either be there or have been there to know how you would react in those heated few minutes.
[quote]anonym wrote:
I hear ya - it’s easy to play QB when you’re sitting behind a computer with the luxury of hours and hours to think about the proper course of action.
I honestly couldn’t say how I would have reacted in that situation…it’s one of those things where you have to either be there or have been there to know how you would react in those heated few minutes.[/quote]
It is strange to me that no one ever applies this logic to the behavior of police officers.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
anonym wrote:
I hear ya - it’s easy to play QB when you’re sitting behind a computer with the luxury of hours and hours to think about the proper course of action.
I honestly couldn’t say how I would have reacted in that situation…it’s one of those things where you have to either be there or have been there to know how you would react in those heated few minutes.
It is strange to me that no one ever applies this logic to the behavior of police officers.[/quote]
don’t fucking kid. He was so far out of bounds it is impossible to find an excuse.