[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]benos4752 wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Do you get what I’m saying? Its not that the older generation fucked things up because they’re old, or because they planned to - but the fact remains, they fucked things up. Yet nobody is railing for them to “step up and take responsibility.” [/quote]
You are right, the people who enacted the policies are the older generations. However, where you lose any and all credibility is the fact that you wont admit to the simple fact that age is irrelevant in this discussion. It was the policies. The exact same policies that the OWS would have, and want to, enact if they were in power. That is why age is irrelevant, a fact that you seem to be able to fit into your thick skull. Yes, you are 100% right; the older generation enacted the policies. But, what you like to continually dodge is the fact that the younger generation sitting in the streets like third world refugees would have done the same exact things had they been in power.
Age is irrelevant, policy is to blame. That is what TB is trying to say, and what you are trying hard to ignore. Can’t say that I blame you, if all the beliefs that I held dear were being torn down in front of my eyes for the fallacies they are, I’d try to hide from the facts too.[/quote]
So the older generation enacted the bad policies, yet its the younger generations “entitlement mentality” that is the problem?
Policy isn’t to blame because policy isnt a fucking autonomous entity - the people who ENACTED the policy are to blame.[/quote]
First of all, I don’t blame my generation for the problem. What happened was out of our control because we weren’t in power. BUT, my generation (or some of it) is to blame for how we reacted to it.
“I was always told to go to college and I’d get a good job. My teachers always said that menial labor was below me and only for idiots.” Boo fucking woo. I’m the same generation, and surprisingly, I’m not sitting in the street like a refugee and broke and blaming banks.
First, I’ve never been told that ‘only idiots and failures flip burgers (or fill in other minimum wage job)’. I’ve only ever been told that only idiots and failures flip burgers at 45 after dropping out of high school. And even if I had been told the former, I’m smart enough to go…hmm, that doesn’t sound right…I’m smart enough to go, “Instead of taking out student loans and getting in debt, I’ll work, and go to community college. Get my transfer stuff done. Work, save money, and go to university a couple years later, out of my own pocket.”
And when I get out, if it’s hard for me to find a job in my field, I’m not going to go to cry about it, I’ll recert and jump back on ambulances. Or I’ll go work in the fields again. Or hell, I’ll go flip burgers.
That’s what is pissing me off about these guys and gals. Instead of of going, “Shit, there are no jobs in my field in this area…well, I need to make money…so, in the meantime, I’m going to go do _____. And then I can wait for my career to open up; or look out of my area; or search for something else that I’m qualified for.”
Instead, they sit in the street, “Waaaa, I can’t get a job with my flower arranging degree. I’m going to sit here in the street and cry about there being no jobs…What? Go flip burgers? Fuck you! I’m to good for that!” And this isn’t just some media bias or something (fat chance with this liberal media in this country). I hear classmates and etc saying shit like this all the time (not those words, but the general message).
That’s what I blame on my generation, not the situation itself, but our reaction to the situation. I don’t give a shit how many times an adult growing up told you certain jobs were below, so what? You need the money, go do the work. There are lots of jobs available, if your willing to do/find them. Hell, this last summer, my dad needed at least two more hands out in the field…and even though everyone whines about needing a job, no one, from anywhere around us, came to him asking for a job. Even my friend, who was on unemployment, wouldn’t come out and work, and he pays well; $10.50/hour with no experience or anything needed…but, you have to work hard, and long, and get covered in dirt and dust…so no one wants to do it.
There are jobs out there. But if you’re going to refuse to work because your career field is impacted and you view certain jobs as ‘below you’, well, then you are shit out of luck…don’t come whining to me about no jobs if you’re unwilling to bust your ass for a year or two doing something that isn’t ideal.
And yes, let me say it again, maybe if it is said enough, you’ll finally get it. Yes, the people who enacted the policies are to blame for the policies. But the policies are to blame for the outcome. And, again, age is irrelevant. Yes, the people who enacted the policies are older than my generation, but that doesn’t matter, because a lot of the OWS crowd and other liberals supported those policies, or the politicians who enacted them, and would have enacted those same policies if they had been in charge. So yes, the older generation enacted the policies, but the ideology and policies are what are to blame.
