Fight was over, and I think I’m being generous, at 1:05. Everything else could be spun as excessive after that. Like I said, if any permanent damage was done to the black kid after 1:05 I wouldn’t want to see a jury.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fight was over, and I think I’m being generous, at 1:05. Everything else could be spun as excessive after that. Like I said, if any permanent damage was done to the black kid after 1:05 I wouldn’t want to see a jury. [/quote]
That was my point.
Derek, I’ve never been in a fight. I don’t like to put myself in precarious situations. Don’t look down on me…
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
? Has nobody been in a fight on here?
This was normal growing up, nobody got shot, nobody got curb stomped.
I mean really not being a dick, just trying to understand what was so brutal on here? [/quote]
The only problem is that the fight went on a few seconds longer than it should have. I would have stopped it at the point where the black dude was just lying there no longer defending himself while the bigger guy was wailing on his head. After a couple of those shots it’s time to stop; the fight has been won.[/quote]
If I am angry enough to fight you, I cant just flip that shit off like a light switch. [/quote]
Exactly! That’s why a responsible third person might need to intervene at some point if the victor doesn’t know when to quit.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fight was over, and I think I’m being generous, at 1:05. Everything else could be spun as excessive after that. Like I said, if any permanent damage was done to the black kid after 1:05 I wouldn’t want to see a jury. [/quote]
That was my point.
Derek, I’ve never been in a fight. I don’t like to put myself in precarious situations. Don’t look down on me… [/quote]
Never man, I grew up in rural area and we settled things with our fists.
Two men enter; one man leaves!
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fight was over, and I think I’m being generous, at 1:05. Everything else could be spun as excessive after that. Like I said, if any permanent damage was done to the black kid after 1:05 I wouldn’t want to see a jury. [/quote]
That was my point.
Derek, I’ve never been in a fight. I don’t like to put myself in precarious situations. Don’t look down on me… [/quote]
Never man, I grew up in rural area and we settled things with our fists. [/quote]
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Fight was over, and I think I’m being generous, at 1:05. Everything else could be spun as excessive after that. Like I said, if any permanent damage was done to the black kid after 1:05 I wouldn’t want to see a jury. [/quote]
That was my point.
Derek, I’ve never been in a fight. I don’t like to put myself in precarious situations. Don’t look down on me… [/quote]
Never man, I grew up in rural area and we settled things with our fists. [/quote]
Different times man. We used to fight over stuff when I was a kid too. Sometimes for no real reason at all.
I did see a funny one at work one time- Some kid talking ridiculous shit to a guy literally twice his size. Must have forgotten that he is not a level 80 wizard in real life. Big guy gives him one solid punch on the sternum and crumbled the kid. Not bad enough to do any real damage but plenty enough to remind him that they were not on the internetz, and words can have real consequence.
That is a fairly typical “bad blood” type of street fight. As a police officer, I’ve seen and been in many fights. This is a common-type of fight between races or gangs. I’m actually surprised the white guy acted the way he did (no cheap shots, no shit talking, etc.)
As said before, your right. If you are mad enough to fight, it’s tough to just flip that switch off. The adrenaline that is in your system can drive you into a rage. You will say and do things you won’t remember. You operate in a fog and knowing when to quit, or stopping when someone tells you to quit, can be hard.
I would also say that if the dude was seriously injured, the white guy’s defense attorney would never want to have the jury see that video. Never.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
? Has nobody been in a fight on here?
This was normal growing up, nobody got shot, nobody got curb stomped.
I mean really not being a dick, just trying to understand what was so brutal on here? [/quote]
No one on a website called testosterone nation has ever been in a violent altercation…lol[/quote]
Just reading the first page, I get the feeling this was barbaric.
Again maybe I am the barbarian but I am of a different age group.[/quote]
I was just giving you shit.
Nothing brutal about that altercation. Run of the mill and very civil.
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
That is a fairly typical “bad blood” type of street fight. As a police officer, I’ve seen and been in many fights. This is a common-type of fight between races or gangs. I’m actually surprised the white guy acted the way he did (no cheap shots, no shit talking, etc.)
As said before, your right. If you are mad enough to fight, it’s tough to just flip that switch off. The adrenaline that is in your system can drive you into a rage. You will say and do things you won’t remember. You operate in a fog and knowing when to quit, or stopping when someone tells you to quit, can be hard.
I would also say that if the dude was seriously injured, the white guy’s defense attorney would never want to have the jury see that video. Never. [/quote]
Isn’t watching a street fight a crime? Are these camera men being pursued legally?
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
That is a fairly typical “bad blood” type of street fight. As a police officer, I’ve seen and been in many fights. This is a common-type of fight between races or gangs. I’m actually surprised the white guy acted the way he did (no cheap shots, no shit talking, etc.)
As said before, your right. If you are mad enough to fight, it’s tough to just flip that switch off. The adrenaline that is in your system can drive you into a rage. You will say and do things you won’t remember. You operate in a fog and knowing when to quit, or stopping when someone tells you to quit, can be hard.
I would also say that if the dude was seriously injured, the white guy’s defense attorney would never want to have the jury see that video. Never. [/quote]
Isn’t watching a street fight a crime? Are these camera men being pursued legally? [/quote]
Absent a weird statute in a specific state I’m not aware of, just passively watching, no. Aiding, encouraging, or instigating can get you into trouble however.
Honestly, the friend fucked his buddy up if he really did record this.
Regardless of the fact that the black guy acted like an asshole and threw the first punch, the white guy clearly had the black guy beat and yet kept going at it.
A legal self-defense no-no, iirc.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
That is a fairly typical “bad blood” type of street fight. As a police officer, I’ve seen and been in many fights. This is a common-type of fight between races or gangs. I’m actually surprised the white guy acted the way he did (no cheap shots, no shit talking, etc.)
As said before, your right. If you are mad enough to fight, it’s tough to just flip that switch off. The adrenaline that is in your system can drive you into a rage. You will say and do things you won’t remember. You operate in a fog and knowing when to quit, or stopping when someone tells you to quit, can be hard.
I would also say that if the dude was seriously injured, the white guy’s defense attorney would never want to have the jury see that video. Never. [/quote]
Isn’t watching a street fight a crime? Are these camera men being pursued legally? [/quote]
Absent a weird statute in a specific state I’m not aware of, just passively watching, no. Aiding, encouraging, or instigating can get you into trouble however.
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True. They would be an accessory to the crime. I’m familiar with a few cases like this, but there was always some type of instigation by the cameraman. They would also be on possession of evidence, which 99% of the time they delete, then then get charged with destruction of evidence.
The black dude got what he deserved.
It was stopped at the right time, he was dazed after but not completely ko’d as the earlier posts would indicate. Some people made it sound as if he got curb stomped while be anally raped by a horse.
Anything can happen in fight, and it’s all the more reason to avoid it. Black dude was lucky he got his ass beat by people with some sense about them and dint have his head bounced off the parking lot a few times, or got punted in the face by the dude’s friend.
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
That is a fairly typical “bad blood” type of street fight. As a police officer, I’ve seen and been in many fights. This is a common-type of fight between races or gangs. I’m actually surprised the white guy acted the way he did (no cheap shots, no shit talking, etc.)
As said before, your right. If you are mad enough to fight, it’s tough to just flip that switch off. The adrenaline that is in your system can drive you into a rage. You will say and do things you won’t remember. You operate in a fog and knowing when to quit, or stopping when someone tells you to quit, can be hard.
I would also say that if the dude was seriously injured, the white guy’s defense attorney would never want to have the jury see that video. Never. [/quote]
Isn’t watching a street fight a crime? Are these camera men being pursued legally? [/quote]
Absent a weird statute in a specific state I’m not aware of, just passively watching, no. Aiding, encouraging, or instigating can get you into trouble however.
[/quote]
True. They would be an accessory to the crime. And they would also be on possession of evidence, which 99% of the time they delete, then then get charged with destruction of evidence.
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Interesting, so is yelling “fuck him up” at the start of the altercation instigating?
So if you Joe Camera man deletes the video right after the fight he is destroying evidence or does there have to be an ongoing investigation?
Just Curious, since I watch the monthly world star fights comps. They’re funny, but expose the gritty underbelly of human nature.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
That is a fairly typical “bad blood” type of street fight. As a police officer, I’ve seen and been in many fights. This is a common-type of fight between races or gangs. I’m actually surprised the white guy acted the way he did (no cheap shots, no shit talking, etc.)
As said before, your right. If you are mad enough to fight, it’s tough to just flip that switch off. The adrenaline that is in your system can drive you into a rage. You will say and do things you won’t remember. You operate in a fog and knowing when to quit, or stopping when someone tells you to quit, can be hard.
I would also say that if the dude was seriously injured, the white guy’s defense attorney would never want to have the jury see that video. Never. [/quote]
Isn’t watching a street fight a crime? Are these camera men being pursued legally? [/quote]
Absent a weird statute in a specific state I’m not aware of, just passively watching, no. Aiding, encouraging, or instigating can get you into trouble however.
[/quote]
True. They would be an accessory to the crime. And they would also be on possession of evidence, which 99% of the time they delete, then then get charged with destruction of evidence.
[/quote]
Interesting, so is yelling “fuck him up” at the start of the altercation instigating?
So if you Joe Camera man deletes the video right after the fight he is destroying evidence or does there have to be an ongoing investigation?
Just Curious, since I watch the monthly world star fights comps. They’re funny, but expose the gritty underbelly of human nature.
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Most likely yes, that would be at least evidence of encouragement.
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Most likely yes, it would turn on if Joe Cameraman knew or appreciated that there might be a criminal or civil proceeding likely in the future and deleted it anyway and Joe Cameraman’s state of mind when he deleted it. Intentionally destroying evidence is obstruction of justice.
I’m pretty sure that gas station would have cameras covering the whole thing.
If someone deleted the video right after the fight, how would anyone know/prove it exsisted?
Oh god, am I the only one that finds this shit so funny?
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
Oh god, am I the only one that finds this shit so funny?
[/quote]
just the first person to post it…
[quote]Aggv wrote:
I’m pretty sure that gas station would have cameras covering the whole thing.
If someone deleted the video right after the fight, how would anyone know/prove it exsisted? [/quote]
The same way you prove that any other crime has been committed, i.e., through direct and circumstantial evidence, i.e., witnesses, confessions, forensic evidence, etc.
What’s the legality behind being provoked into violent action?
Since the black guy instigated the fight, would the initial blows the white guy threw be safe under some self defence law?
When would the boundary be crossed where legally the white guy is now in trouble for seriously harming someone who attacked him because he was unable to control his actions in his anger?
Just curious