[quote]MaazerSmiit wrote:
Chong, whatever happened to RDS2134 (or something like that)? I seem to remember you and him met up once or twice.
[/quote]
Couldn’t tell you mate. Doesn’t he still post here?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
But the thing is, no matter what has been said I would go have a beer and shoot the shit about lifting with anyone here. Hell, I would even buy.
knee-gro even you are welcome.[/quote]
Absolutely I’d take you up on that offer as long as it’s not in Mississipi 'cause I tend to get involved in fist fights whith the people I’m drinking with…I don’t want you to legally shoot me in the face hahaha.
Besides American beer is weaker than piss. European beer is so much better lol.
[/quote]
First, it’s illegal to drink and carry. Second, I don’t think your outcome would be much better fighting an unarmed Bauber.
As for beer, I make my own, but everywhere I’ve lived has some really good local brews.[/quote]
Depends on the state. In some states, if your blood alcohol is above a certain level the police can take your gun from you and revoke your carry permit (if you have one). But just having a drink while carrying is not illegal, again depending on the state’s laws. But I agree with your sentiment, if you are going to drink - leave your gun at home.
Tennessee is one of four states, along with Arizona, Georgia and Virginia, that recently enacted laws explicitly allowing loaded guns in bars. (Eighteen other states allow weapons in restaurants that serve alcohol.) The legal works that define a bar is that 50% or more of their sales come from alcohol.
In Mississippi, if you have your IC (enhanced carry), you are allowed to carry anywhere BUT a courtroom when a judge is in session or any police or sheriff station/ jail. You basically have to go through similar instruction a police officer does with regard to shooting situations in public and how to be aware of potential collateral damage. It involved a written test and a shooting competency (accuracy) test from various yardages.
Local brews can be fantastic! But, any beer that is made to sit on shelves for months and months isn’t usually all that great haha.[/quote]
In Tennessee I don’t believe there is a specific blood alcohol limit I just remember it says you cannot be under the influence. But I do know you are not allowed to even be in possession of an open container when armed.[/quote]
Well honestly that makes perfect sense to me. I don’t have any issues with that.
Looked into it a bit though.
The general rule in TN is found in 39-17-1322 which states that you cannot be charged with illegally possessing a firearm (here while under the influence of alcohol 39-17-1321).
On alcohol and drugs that is covered under T.C.A. 39-17-1321 there is no specific BAC limit. However recent legislation that is moving through the legislator that would make it illegal to hunt while intoxicated on public lands with a BAC of .08%, not sure if this would/could establish a BAC level under 39-17-1321 or not.
Not sure on the current status of this as of this exact date. Because the law also states this -
Places off-limits when carrying:
- It is lawful to possess a firearm on the premises of a public place where alcoholic beverages are served as long as such individual is not consuming alcoholic beverages
So… yeah.
I guess it is cool to drink elsewhere and then enter a bar or restaurant already with alcohol in your system? But don’t you dare go and drink it there while carrying? Lol, I feel that needs to be cleaned up a bit. Which is I think the legislation under review aims to do.
[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
Besides American beer is weaker than piss. European beer is so much better lol.
[/quote]
Now this is one thing the septics cannot deny.
Although I’ve been very partial to Brooklyn Beer of late!
[/quote]
Yeah, American commercial beer is strictly for getting hammered. Not for enjoyment. Some of the smaller breweries are good, but still not as good as European commercial beer.
Newcastle for example is better than most large scale American beers, IMO, and I’m sure you’ll tell me it is bottom of the barrel from your side of the pond.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Yeah, American commercial beer is strictly for getting hammered. Not for enjoyment. Some of the smaller breweries are good, but still not as good as European commercial beer.
Newcastle for example is better than most large scale American beers, IMO, and I’m sure you’ll tell me it is bottom of the barrel from your side of the pond. [/quote]
Yeah, lots of ‘cooking’ beer/lager over your side however there’s also a lot of fine micro breweries in the US releasing some quality beers and IPAs.
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
live in a socialist hellhole is WILDLY off the mark.
[/quote]
I don’t know if that is true, as I’m not about to spend my day looking up what percentage European business is owned by government, however I think many people confuse “socialist” with “ever expanded safety net”. (To use a kinder description)
They are really two different conversations, and you can be a capitalist nation and still have the second problem. [/quote]
It’s a remnant of the industrial revolution. Late industrializing states couldn’t hope to establish a foothold in a market dominated by early industrialized such as Great Britain or the US without heavy government support of business. You see this especially in Germany and Japan, who even today are much more inclined to see the relationship between business and government as a symbiotic one.[/quote]
This is an interesting thought that I hadn’t ever considered before. I’m not sure I really agree with it right now (perhaps you can call it “opinion inertia”), but it certainly bears thinking about and analyzing.
[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
Sure waiting to have nasal polyps removed is no big deal, but what if it had been more serious or painful?
Well as you have shown I don’t know the intricacies of each individual country. I have been to Europe 4 times. Once was for an entire summer, and the other three ranged from 2-4 weeks.
I am really not saying Europe is a grim nightmare of disastrous proportions, but I have had my fill for as long as I live.
And I will never understand why people think FREE is good. Nothing is ever FREE.[/quote]
I appreciate your measured response, mate. I was a little irked at some of the claims made and actually feel a little stupid for sticking my chin in now however whats done is done! Hope all is well
[/quote]
I think things got more than a little heated over the whole gun thing, which does tend to happen when you have people from vastly different cultures and histories (and possibly language barriers) hocking opinions everywhere–especially if the first couple opinions were posted with a good deal of hyperbole (born of frustration) to really start confusing people off the bat.
I tend to agree with beans on his assessment of your prior post but I’m always glad to read a “from the heart” post that’s civil–it is always at least a little instructive.
Keep chiming in.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
I think things got more than a little heated over the whole gun thing, which does tend to happen when you have people from vastly different cultures and histories (and possibly language barriers) hocking opinions everywhere–especially if the first couple opinions were posted with a good deal of hyperbole (born of frustration) to really start confusing people off the bat.
I tend to agree with beans on his assessment of your prior post but I’m always glad to read a “from the heart” post that’s civil–it is always at least a little instructive.
Keep chiming in.
[/quote]
Cheers mate!
[quote]MaazerSmiit wrote:
[quote]ChongLordUno wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You’re completely ignoring the actual important parts of my post. [/quote]
I know because I’m heading off to the boozers to watch the 2nd half of the Man City game! Sorry. We’ll do lunch sometime![/quote]
You and Pwnisher need to start up courses about not giving a fuck[/quote]
I’d sign up!
I feel I’m at least halfway there with my vast affinity for English brews and Whiskey (meaning of the scotch persuasion of course).
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
I am sorry, but if that is the level of healthcare you enjoy. Have at it.[/quote]
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
Maybe you mean socialized medicine where the hospitals are utterly disgusting and run down? Where if you don’t have cash, good luck getting seen anywhere within that week. You can downplay this all you want or call bs, but I have been to Emergency rooms in Rome and one in England and both I wouldn’t want my dog to be given care in.
[/quote]
Although it is indicated U.S.A has the most top ranking hospitals in the world:
http://hospitals.webometrics.info/en/world
It’s funny European health care systems are considered better than U.S.A, no?
(rankings based on health, health equality, responsiveness, responsiveness equality and fair financial contribution)[/quote]
Again, research indicating US healthcare ranking below these disgusting socialised healthcare systems lol.
“U.S. ranks last among seven countries on health system performance based on measures of quality, efficiency, access, equity, and health lives.”
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/News/News-Releases/2010/Jun/US-Ranks-Last-Among-Seven-Countries.aspx
[/quote]
I might be pages behind, but I would have to know how they came up with the definitions and methodology for each of their categories before I would ever agree point blank with their study.
Case in point there was another study that defined “fairness/equity” in a socioeconomic sense (similar to say, “wage inequality”) quite apart from actual care quality as one of the criteria that pushed the US down the list. This is inaccurate and unfair when considering actual CARE given.
It is always important to look at the methodology, always.
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
Besides American beer is weaker than piss. European beer is so much better lol.
[/quote]
I think that’s something we can all agree on.
At least for the national distributors–the craft beer breweries here are alive and well, and Colorado has a host of heavy hitters you’ll likely never see outside of the surrounding states. I was there a week ago and the lightest beer I had was 7.5%, average was close to 9%.
Since this is randomly about healthcare now, one thing to mention that a lot of folks don’t think about is that as flawed as the US system is, it does promote certain advances in medicine that other more socialized systems really don’t encourage. I don’t have time to get into that much at the moment, but I mean just look at the Nobel Prizes for medicine over the last 80 or so years. Over half of them went to an American.
Although we do thank Scotland for penicillin 
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
But the thing is, no matter what has been said I would go have a beer and shoot the shit about lifting with anyone here. Hell, I would even buy.
knee-gro even you are welcome.[/quote]
Absolutely I’d take you up on that offer as long as it’s not in Mississipi 'cause I tend to get involved in fist fights whith the people I’m drinking with…I don’t want you to legally shoot me in the face hahaha.
Besides American beer is weaker than piss. European beer is so much better lol.
[/quote]
Lol, hey at least you can joke about it! Plus, I wouldn’t ever shoot someone who was intoxicated and unarmed =P. Can just push them down and laugh at them.
Oh I completely agree there. Can make a good meal out of 2-3 good European beers.[/quote]
Hey man thought you’d like to know thet the French socialists didn’t do so well in the elections yesterday. Nevertheless I don’t think you’ll see them walking around with muskets and bayonets anytime soon so don’t get your hopes up.
Wow this thread is all over the place. Americans really do suffer from attention deficit disorder.
Let’s do cars next.
[quote]csulli wrote:
Since this is randomly about healthcare now, one thing to mention that a lot of folks don’t think about is that as flawed as the US system is, it does promote certain advances in medicine that other more socialized systems really don’t encourage. I don’t have time to get into that much at the moment, but I mean just look at the Nobel Prizes for medicine over the last 80 or so years. Over half of them went to an American.
Although we do thank Scotland for penicillin :)[/quote]
I’m allergic to penicillin.
My my myyyyyyyyy…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Jesus H. Have the fucking balls to say what you want to say or don’t say anything. PAssive aggressive “ambiguity” is pathetic.
[/quote]
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Since this is randomly about healthcare now, one thing to mention that a lot of folks don’t think about is that as flawed as the US system is, it does promote certain advances in medicine that other more socialized systems really don’t encourage. I don’t have time to get into that much at the moment, but I mean just look at the Nobel Prizes for medicine over the last 80 or so years. Over half of them went to an American.
Although we do thank Scotland for penicillin :)[/quote]
I’m allergic to penicillin.[/quote]
I am too.
Now we know how to kill each other.
[quote]jeremielemauvais wrote:
My my myyyyyyyyy…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Jesus H. Have the fucking balls to say what you want to say or don’t say anything. PAssive aggressive “ambiguity” is pathetic.
[/quote]
[/quote]
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
[quote]Bauber wrote:
But the thing is, no matter what has been said I would go have a beer and shoot the shit about lifting with anyone here. Hell, I would even buy.
knee-gro even you are welcome.[/quote]
Absolutely I’d take you up on that offer as long as it’s not in Mississipi 'cause I tend to get involved in fist fights whith the people I’m drinking with…I don’t want you to legally shoot me in the face hahaha.
Besides American beer is weaker than piss. European beer is so much better lol.
[/quote]
Lol, hey at least you can joke about it! Plus, I wouldn’t ever shoot someone who was intoxicated and unarmed =P. Can just push them down and laugh at them.
Oh I completely agree there. Can make a good meal out of 2-3 good European beers.[/quote]
Hey man thought you’d like to know thet the French socialists didn’t do so well in the elections yesterday. Nevertheless I don’t think you’ll see them walking around with muskets and bayonets anytime soon so don’t get your hopes up.
Wow this thread is all over the place. Americans really do suffer from attention deficit disorder.
Let’s do cars next.
[/quote]
Those damn Frenchies. If only they knew the joys of blazing through some rounds in a high-powered automatic rifle. =D
ADD is our specialty. We just dope the ADD kids up to be zombies. MERICA.
I hate cars. Trucks roooollllllll.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Since this is randomly about healthcare now, one thing to mention that a lot of folks don’t think about is that as flawed as the US system is, it does promote certain advances in medicine that other more socialized systems really don’t encourage. I don’t have time to get into that much at the moment, but I mean just look at the Nobel Prizes for medicine over the last 80 or so years. Over half of them went to an American.
Although we do thank Scotland for penicillin :)[/quote]
I’m allergic to penicillin.[/quote]
I am too.
Now we know how to kill each other.[/quote]
You weak ass mother fuckers! =P
[quote]Bauber wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]furo wrote:
Worst thread I’ve ever read on a site usually renown for intelligence. Lost a lot of respect for a few guys in here. I won’t bother posting my point of view, Rattlehead said everything I wanted to say. [/quote]
lmao
Jesus H. Have the fucking balls to say what you want to say or don’t say anything. PAssive aggressive “ambiguity” is pathetic.
This is the internet, either have the discussion or don’t post, no point in being “PC” about it. [/quote]
Coming into a discussion that takes a turn to rights and core beliefs thinking inflammatory things are not going to be said on the interwebs… yeah.
But the thing is, no matter what has been said I would go have a beer and shoot the shit about lifting with anyone here. Hell, I would even buy.
knee-gro even you are welcome.[/quote]
Haha I’d happily take you up on that offer Bauber.
You know what countingbeans, you are right: I shouldn’t have commented. The only reason I did was to offer support to what Rattlehead had been saying which I completely agreed with, and I felt a duty to give him a little back-up although I didn’t want to enter the conversation myself.
I tend to just stick to the training parts of these forums, because I personally find discussing topics like this difficult online. Honestly I’d love to sit down and shoot the shit with you guys in person, I love discussing this kind of stuff with friends, but I try to avoid it online. So I’ll head back to my hobbit-hole and let you guys continue!
All the best
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Newcastle for example is better than most large scale American beers, IMO, and I’m sure you’ll tell me it is bottom of the barrel from your side of the pond. [/quote]
Nah Brown Ale is a good beer, although arguably not the same since it’s no longer brewed on Tyneside.
The have it on draught on the (European) continent, but I’ve only ever seen it in bottles in Newcastle. The taste is better from a bottle.
There is (or was) a taxi in Newcastle painted in the American flag with the Brown Ale logo and “America’s Favourite…” written across it. There’s a Chinese one, too.
It’s been a while since my last session on the Brown, and my ringpiece is thankful.
There’s also some excellent beer brewed in Brittany. One I love called Telenn Du that’s like a cross between Guiness and Brown Ale.