I would just be more patient and stay the course see where you are a year from now you may be amazed. The formula never adds up to a true max. You should not always care where your max is just that your moving forward.
Maybe I am missing something here, and if I am I apologize.
But why wouldn’t the logical answer here be to increase your training lift weight to an appropriate amount so that you are incapable of lifting it more than 10 or 12 times in the “max” final set?
If you are lifting over 15 reps on that final set, I would think the weight is not heavy enough for you. I get 8 give or take 1 or 2 depending on how the stars aligned and how well my eating/sleeping/recovery/stress levels were for that week.
[quote]SevenDragons wrote:
Maybe I am missing something here, and if I am I apologize.
But why wouldn’t the logical answer here be to increase your training lift weight to an appropriate amount so that you are incapable of lifting it more than 10 or 12 times in the “max” final set?
If you are lifting over 15 reps on that final set, I would think the weight is not heavy enough for you. I get 8 give or take 1 or 2 depending on how the stars aligned and how well my eating/sleeping/recovery/stress levels were for that week.[/quote]
That’s how I feel sometimes, like maybe should my training max be 95% instead. But I have been incorporating Joker Sets into the mix this cycle and I think they will help. Before I start fucking with the TM, I would rather do that. I re-max every 3 cycles, and I just started my 4th, so I am incorporating Joker Sets and FSL into these next three cycles and see where that takes me. I’ve got time.
like has been said multiple times, I find the further away you are from your true 1rm the less the formula makes sense. What Id caution against is useing your strength in the deadlift. If you can touch and go 21 reps with 315 but cant deadstop lift it for 10(not saying you cant just giving an arbitray number) you clearly have are “good” at using the stretch reflex in your lifts. Id go to deadstop deadlifts and see the difference, if its a massive difference youll know that your using your stretch reflex and not “starting strength” to get the weight up.
I agree - nice effort and nice lifts. It ultimately comes down to how you test your strength. For instance, if you were to try the 315 again next week and get 25, you got stronger. What many overlook is the “skill” aspect of lifting. Skill requires practice and finding a groove in most cases - hitting a baseball, lifting weight, etc. Reps require different skills and thus different practices.
In fact - you tap into an entirely different physiological system doing that many reps. I have found that speed deads and deficits - singles - help my top end singles the most. “Beyond” has ways to incorporate them that work well - I speak from experience with them and still use them.
FYI - if it is top end strength you want, I would practice the way you play and reset after each rep. I use touch and goes too for my PR set - but working up and for jokers I pause and reset. I use to never take my hands off the bar but started getting dizzy - now I stand up - take a breath - and go back down for the next rep. To my surprise this is infinitely harder - I thought the few seconds would help and be like cheating - surprise surprise:)
[quote]Rave2.0 wrote:
FYI - if it is top end strength you want, I would practice the way you play and reset after each rep. I use touch and goes too for my PR set - but working up and for jokers I pause and reset. I use to never take my hands off the bar but started getting dizzy - now I stand up - take a breath - and go back down for the next rep. To my surprise this is infinitely harder - I thought the few seconds would help and be like cheating - surprise surprise:)[/quote]
There are some theories that the stretch reflex of a muscle takes about 2 seconds to completely go away, so that might be the difference.