Nuclear-Armed Iran - Can They Be Deterred?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]sportyrider wrote:
Jewbacca, not all Americans are panzies, you have plenty of supporters here that would stand behind you. [/quote]

Oh, I concur. Israel’s biggest supporters are Americans. And specifically, conservative Americans.

My comment was limited to my tribesmen Jewish people in America. They are overwhelmingly pansies and in complete denial about how the world works.

I don’t understand it remotely. They. Are. Going. To. Kill. Us. Evil exists.

Defeat it, or they will come for you.

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[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]Otep wrote:

[quote]Neospartan wrote:
The problem here is that NOBODY understand what is going on inside Iran. And those who do cannot speak becasue AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) is determined to paint Iran as evil as posible.

The real question is:
How should the US deal with Iran and its nuclean ambisions?

The answer is:
Fund, support, and encourage the POLITICAL OPPOSITION in Iran. Ahmadinejad and Khamenei are in power because they unleashed the police, secret police, and the Revolutionary Guard/Basij militia on the people protesting the fixed election results in 2009. And they still keep their foot on the political opposition.

The majority of the population in Iran is under the age of 35. They DO NOT want to die for Khamenei or any other Ayatollah, like their fathers and uncles did in the Iran-Iraq War 1980-1988.
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In theory, I agree with you.

In practice, the last time America supported an Iranian regime, they savagely threw him out, took the American embassy hostage, and re-started a bloody and shameful religious pogram that continues to this day. All with the popular support of the parents of the martyrs of the green revolution.

America should leave the Iranian citizens to lay in the bed they made in 1979.[/quote]

The United States sponsored coup d’etat in Iran of August 19, 1953, has emerged as a critical event in postwar world history. The government of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq which was ousted in the coup was the last popular, democratically oriented government to hold office in Iran. The regime replacing it was a dictatorship that suppressed all forms of popular political activity, producing tensions that contributed greatly to the 1978-1979 Iranian revolution. If Mosaddeq had not been overthrown, the revolution might not have occurred. The 1953 coup also marked the first peacetime use of covert action by the United States to overthrow a foreign government. As such, it was an important precedent for events like the 1954 coup in Guatemala and the 1973 overthrow of Salvador Allende in Chile(1), and made the United States a key target of the Iranian revolution.

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Much as I appreciate the counterpoint, I can’t really see how this supports the idea that America should meddle in Iran’s domestic politics.

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[quote]Otep wrote:

[quote]joebassin wrote:

[quote]Otep wrote:

[quote]Neospartan wrote:
The problem here is that NOBODY understand what is going on inside Iran. And those who do cannot speak becasue AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) is determined to paint Iran as evil as posible.

The real question is:
How should the US deal with Iran and its nuclean ambisions?

The answer is:
Fund, support, and encourage the POLITICAL OPPOSITION in Iran. Ahmadinejad and Khamenei are in power because they unleashed the police, secret police, and the Revolutionary Guard/Basij militia on the people protesting the fixed election results in 2009. And they still keep their foot on the political opposition.

The majority of the population in Iran is under the age of 35. They DO NOT want to die for Khamenei or any other Ayatollah, like their fathers and uncles did in the Iran-Iraq War 1980-1988.
[/quote]

In theory, I agree with you.

In practice, the last time America supported an Iranian regime, they savagely threw him out, took the American embassy hostage, and re-started a bloody and shameful religious pogram that continues to this day. All with the popular support of the parents of the martyrs of the green revolution.

America should leave the Iranian citizens to lay in the bed they made in 1979.[/quote]

The United States sponsored coup d’etat in Iran of August 19, 1953, has emerged as a critical event in postwar world history. The government of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq which was ousted in the coup was the last popular, democratically oriented government to hold office in Iran. The regime replacing it was a dictatorship that suppressed all forms of popular political activity, producing tensions that contributed greatly to the 1978-1979 Iranian revolution. If Mosaddeq had not been overthrown, the revolution might not have occurred. The 1953 coup also marked the first peacetime use of covert action by the United States to overthrow a foreign government. As such, it was an important precedent for events like the 1954 coup in Guatemala and the 1973 overthrow of Salvador Allende in Chile(1), and made the United States a key target of the Iranian revolution.

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Much as I appreciate the counterpoint, I can’t really see how this supports the idea that America should meddle in Iran’s domestic politics.[/quote]

It doesn’t supports the idea that America should meddle in Iran’s domestic politics. I think America should not interfere in Iran politics. It was just to show why Iranian threw out the America supported regime.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
<<< My comment was limited to my tribesmen Jewish people in America. They are overwhelmingly pansies and in complete denial about how the world works. >>>[/quote]
Dude, American Jews are overwhelmingly liberal. American liberals are overwhelmingly pansies and in complete denial about how the world works. There’s a mysterious spell floating around here whereby reality is surrendered unconditionally in service to a self destructive ideology. It’s not their Jewishness, it’s their liberalness that is poisoning your tribesmen.

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Really Iran has lost its nuclear virginity…fuck eventually it was gonna happen. If anything I think it will turn into Cuban missile crisis part II…except in the middle east. It will be livable but in all reality Israel will be in a very precarious position.