[quote]rainjack wrote:
When the outcome is determined BEFORE the contest even starts - it is not a sport. [/quote]
So boxing is not a sport…
sorry
[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
Poker is AWESOME! Best game on the planet, but still a game not a sport.
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is their a difference between "game " and “sport” ? football is a game, are you saying it’s not a sport ?
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Anything I can do while drinking a beer is not a sport- bowling, poker, pool, etc.
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Haha, that is a good classification tool.
cheerleading is not a sport.
This argument has already taken place a couple times. You can’t just suddenly change the definition of what a sport is after thousands of years. The word sport already has a definition; it doesn’t need a bunch of kids with internet access to make up a new one. Most everything listed on this thread is a sport. That includes fishing, bowling, darts, and poker. They’re all sports. Of course, that doesn’t mean the competitors are athletes.
[quote]swivel wrote:
TrainerinDC wrote:
is their a difference between "game " and “sport” ? football is a game, are you saying it’s not a sport ?[/quote]
Card games are just that. Card games. I am a poker player. I play all the time. Vegas, AC, cash games, cash tournaments, you name it and its poker, I play. However, it is not a sport. Football games, are one game. However it is a sport because of what it is. Next are you gonna tell me that gin rummy is a sport? Online Video games are a sport? No. They are games. Sports are games, but games are not necessarily sports.
[quote]mharmar wrote:
The only reason McMahon renamed it Sports-Entertainment was to stop wrestling from having to work under the same rules as sports like boxing and so on. Pro wrestling is not an objective sport I agree, but it is a subjective sport similar to something like Bodybuilding, figure skating and other sports along those lines.
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Incorrect. It is not a subjective sport. If it is, so are movies, television and theatre. The wrestlers are extremely athletic, well conditioned ACTORS. While working for the WWE, they are actors. If one enters a BB comp (or other sporting event), then they will be an athlete. They will be an athlete until they go back to work for the WWE. Then they will be an actor.
[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
mharmar wrote:
The only reason McMahon renamed it Sports-Entertainment was to stop wrestling from having to work under the same rules as sports like boxing and so on. Pro wrestling is not an objective sport I agree, but it is a subjective sport similar to something like Bodybuilding, figure skating and other sports along those lines.
Incorrect. It is not a subjective sport. If it is, so are movies, television and theatre. The wrestlers are extremely athletic, well conditioned ACTORS. While working for the WWE, they are actors. If one enters a BB comp (or other sporting event), then they will be an athlete. They will be an athlete until they go back to work for the WWE. Then they will be an actor. [/quote]
Actually you’re the one who is incorrect, however this is an internet forum and it is unlikely I will be able to change your mind.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Anything I can do while drinking a beer is not a sport- bowling, poker, pool, etc.
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Damn, There goes lifting!
(My old gym had 8 beers on tap)
TQB
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Anything I can do while drinking a beer is not a sport- bowling, poker, pool, etc.
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I can’t think of a sport that can’t be done while drinking. Whether they can be done WELL is another issue entirely.
[quote]etaco wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Anything I can do while drinking a beer is not a sport- bowling, poker, pool, etc.
I can’t think of a sport that can’t be done while drinking. Whether they can be done WELL is another issue entirely. [/quote]
games 6 & 7 of the 2004 alcs speaks to this issue.
If there is a referee/umpire involved, it’s a sport. If there are judges involved, it’s a contest. Everything else is a game.
Just my personal definition. Beer drinking falls into all three categories.
Dammit, I guess I have to admit that soccer is a sport. As long as the kids are having fun…what the heck…
Poker on ESPN. That irritates me. Especially when I know that there is a good non-televised football game happening and ESPN is carrying that stupid World Championship of Poker. Poker is boring enough, WATCHING poker is just rediculous.
all of these are narrow definitions which belong to the broader, all encompassing meaning of “sport” as any activity you do that isn’t work. fishing and hunting- for fun and relaxation- are probably the original “sports”. there was a time, not that long ago, when “sporting goods” meant primarily guns, fishing tackle, and sleeping bags.
yes the meaning of “sport” has grown to include relatively new activities such as football and baseball etc., but this does not exclude its original and historical usage, which is still very much in use today. the fact that espn covers stuff like golf,poker, and darts means these activities are STILL considered sports, and that they are still mainstream enough to be covered by international media.
to ingore this would make you ignorant. to willfully ignore this would make you a bigot.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Poker on ESPN. That irritates me. Especially when I know that there is a good non-televised football game happening and ESPN is carrying that stupid World Championship of Poker. Poker is boring enough, WATCHING poker is just rediculous. [/quote]
As a side note, and I’m sure you know this, but ESPN can’t just televise whatever it wants. If a football game isn’t televised, it’s probably the school or the conference’s fault, not ESPN’s.
At some point I read, I believe on this site, that something can’t be considered a sport if it can be done WELL, by a fat man, while drinking. All three parts of that point are important. If it can be done well while fat, it doesn’t involve enough physical activity to be considered sport.
If it can be done well while drinking, it doesn’t involve enough physical skill and/or judgment to be considered sport. To address poker, it can be done well by a fat man as it doesn’t involve any physical activity.
So, even though it takes skill and judgment, which may be impaired by alcohol, it’s not a sport. Billiards, golf, and darts fall into the same category.
There is, of course, an exception to this rule; Rugby. Specifically the position of prop in club rugby. I swear I, and many other front rowers I’ve met, play better when fat and drunk.
[quote]m0dd3r wrote:
If it can be done well while fat, it doesn’t involve enough physical activity to be considered sport.
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Throw baseball away then followed closely by football.
[quote]PGA wrote:
m0dd3r wrote:
If it can be done well while fat, it doesn’t involve enough physical activity to be considered sport.
Throw baseball away then followed closely by football.[/quote]
Fat men don’t run well, baseball and football both involve running. Ok, there are exceptions, guys like David Wells, John Kruk, David Ortiz, etc… but for the most part fat guys don’t excel in baseball unless they have exceptional talent in hitting or pitching.
Besides, I don’t think they were drunk very often while playing. Football evolved from rugby so there are still positions for fat drunks like myself.
P.S. please note that my use of the word evolution in no way, shape, or form condones the hijacking of this thread with a religious debate about how I made the baby jesus cry.
[quote]m0dd3r wrote:
Besides, I don’t think they were drunk very often while playing.
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I think Mantle, Ruth, Wells, etc. etc. etc would tell you different.