No Source Posting Petition

Pharma
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[quote]WIMPY1 wrote:
IMO, If you don’t have a secure source by the time you decide to start using gear, then you have’nt done enough research to even begin using in the first place.[/quote]

I understand what you are saying but disagree with your reasoning. Not everyone arrives to the party at the same time.

If the Gov. of Cali-fornia decided to get back in shape tomorrow with a little quiet “help”, he’s been out
of the loop so long even he’d have a hard time getting a hookup. OK, so it’s a bit of a fanciful example, but you get my drift (and I really would like to see him start filling out his shirt collars again…I say DBallz for Arnold!/:wink:

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Many will disagree with this, but there is no such thing as a right to acquire AAS. We’re not committing any sin or moral crime by making it more difficult for newbies to find a source (as in not allowing the liberal naming of sources).

If one is truly in need of AAS, and intelligent enough to handle it responsibly, I have no doubt they can find the means to get it. This is in no way unfair, since to claim something “unfair” is to state that it is a person’s right to have it.

I don’t care about some newbie looking to score AAS and having trouble. In all likelyhood, if he gets tired of looking he was unlikely to put in the time and research required.

The problem with this is that vets reminisce about the time when they were newbies and think they were treated unfairly by vets that didn’t want to give them any source names. Well, ultimately they put the time in and got what they wanted.

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[quote]juicy wrote:
I do support this petition.

an idiot is an idiot.

an idiot looking for and/or taking steroids is a bigger idiot.

lets do the world a favor and prevent these idiots from ever getting their hands on this stuff.[/quote]

On the contrary. You, sir, are an idiot.

Get the fuck out of the steroids section and go back to your mainstream way of life. It’s people with idiotic, uneducated, misinformed, incorrect points of view like yours that make the world a fucked up place.

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
juicy wrote:
I do support this petition.

an idiot is an idiot.

an idiot looking for and/or taking steroids is a bigger idiot.

lets do the world a favor and prevent these idiots from ever getting their hands on this stuff.

On the contrary. You, sir, are an idiot.

Get the fuck out of the steroids section and go back to your mainstream way of life. It’s people with idiotic, uneducated, misinformed, incorrect points of view like yours that make the world a fucked up place.[/quote]

And you need to learn reading comprehension. He said nothing against steroids - only the idiots that have caused our current situation.

If you think he is wrong, how about providing some logic to support your position, and preferably in a new thread so as not to derail the purpose of this one.

In short - why don’t you shut the fuck up and take your bitching to a different thread.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
juicy wrote:
I do support this petition.

an idiot is an idiot.

an idiot looking for and/or taking steroids is a bigger idiot.

lets do the world a favor and prevent these idiots from ever getting their hands on this stuff.

On the contrary. You, sir, are an idiot.

Get the fuck out of the steroids section and go back to your mainstream way of life. It’s people with idiotic, uneducated, misinformed, incorrect points of view like yours that make the world a fucked up place.

And you need to learn reading comprehension. He said nothing against steroids - only the idiots that have caused our current situation.

If you think he is wrong, how about providing some logic to support your position, and preferably in a new thread so as not to derail the purpose of this one.

In short - why don’t you shut the fuck up and take your bitching to a different thread. [/quote]

I think you better brush up on your reading comprehension, old grizzly. If he defines those who look for and use steroids as idiots, it can be construed as saying that those who take steroids are idiots, so let’s do the world a favour and prevent people from getting their hands on them. Of course, he didn’t outright say that those who take steroids are idiots, but it could be implied in his words.

If I’m wrong then I owe you an apology, Juicy. If I was right, then my initial criticism still stands.

As far as the purpose of this thread, I’m neutral on the issue. It’d be great to run free and talk openly about sources, because there are many advantages to that, however, safety and security of the members with regards to LE and the authorities is of prime importance also.

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:

I think you better brush up on your reading comprehension, old grizzly. If he defines those who look for and use steroids as idiots, it can be construed as saying that those who take steroids are idiots, so let’s do the world a favour and prevent people from getting their hands on them. Of course, he didn’t outright say that those who take steroids are idiots, but it could be implied in his words.
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What part of shut the fuck up and take it to a different thread do you not understand?

No one cares what your punk-ass thinks. Besides - your fucking musings is not what this thread is about.

I know you can’t keep your mouth shut, and you will undoubtedly continue your bullshit in this thread even after being told to take it elsewhere.

My apologies to everyone in this thread for hijacking it by trying to get this douche bag to take his comments to another thread.

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blah blah blah blah blah. Why would I waste a whole separate thread just to argue with you? I’d rather address it right here and now. I’ve said my piece and you’ve said yours. That’s it.

Case closed. Let the thread continue…

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i support this petition with my two new hands, while standing on my old two feet.

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i support this petition

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
blah blah blah blah blah. Why would I waste a whole separate thread just to argue with you? I’d rather address it right here and now. I’ve said my piece and you’ve said yours. That’s it.

Case closed. Let the thread continue…[/quote]

Not trying to get involved here, guys. But Juicy is, to the best of my knowledge, an AAS user. I can see how his wording may have been misinterpreted, but it’s a simple case of misunderstood semantics.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:

I think you better brush up on your reading comprehension, old grizzly. If he defines those who look for and use steroids as idiots, it can be construed as saying that those who take steroids are idiots, so let’s do the world a favour and prevent people from getting their hands on them. Of course, he didn’t outright say that those who take steroids are idiots, but it could be implied in his words.

What part of shut the fuck up and take it to a different thread do you not understand?

No one cares what your punk-ass thinks. Besides - your fucking musings is not what this thread is about.

I know you can’t keep your mouth shut, and you will undoubtedly continue your bullshit in this thread even after being told to take it elsewhere.

My apologies to everyone in this thread for hijacking it by trying to get this douche bag to take his comments to another thread.
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Yo rain, I hate to keep jumpin’ in your shit, but this was a forum that was monitored for at least 2 years, probably since the whole fuckin’ pro-hormone bans. You guys are so smart. Even if you have “friends” the PM’s can be opened by feds, the hushmail route was obviously fucked, and all electronic forms of communication can be traced.

EVERYONE was sorta careless, starting with ordering from UGL’s. I stayed with the overseas dudes, and not the RC’s and others who were always posted on here by newbies, oldies, and all. I gave one mofo my overseas source who STILL is running smooth, but all these busts in the US will lead to more! WE WERE ALL STUPID BY THINKING IT WAS ALL GOOD, including myself.

I wondered since the first domestic order, and the first time I saw “my guy blends in Montana”. WTF brotha’s, 50 some co.'s doesn’t sound like much in the grand scheme of things, but everyone who ordered from ANY of these UGL’s do not know if their name was kept on file, or destroyed or what. Even if, computers hold a lot of info, even when defragged and all other means of safety. Good luck to all.

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And to you Blaze, I’d trust an Australian to keep his mouth shut,I know a few and they are awesome dudes… I don’t understand where that cut came from. Agree to shut up the source talk, but are there many sources left??? And fuck China…

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[quote]Contrl wrote:
Not trying to get involved here, guys. But Juicy is, to the best of my knowledge, an AAS user. I can see how his wording may have been misinterpreted, but it’s a simple case of misunderstood semantics.[/quote]

Okay. Not meaning to hijack this thread, but if that is the case I’d like to take the time to give Juicy an apology if I misunderstood where he was coming from. I thought he was one of those typical anti-steroid bashers who pops up in this part of the forum from time to time, which I give a kick in the ass to whenever I see one. lol

There should be certain criteria regarding banning source posting - ie there could be some exceptions to the rule which keep the advantages of open source posting, while not having the disadvantages of a complete ban. For example:

*What if sources come and post on this board? I’ve seen some posts here by actual trusted and known sources who discuss their own product. In this case if they don’t feel any danger in drawing attention to themselves, then they should be free to talk as they wish?

*Naming definite confirmed scammers could possibly be allowed, because this saves others the hassle of losing time and money to them. Furthermore, if these scammers draw LE attention to themselves, it’s all the better if they get busted because it rids the world of the scammers.

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Just wondering, as an aside, if Feds can read PMs also, then that method of source discussion isn’t even secure. Even hushmail isn’t safe from them so I’ve heard here. What’s the point?

If no method is safe to discuss online we might as well all just clam up entirely and say nothing at all.

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Bushy has it right.

The situation we currently find ourselves is a result of laziness and greed.

I love greed. But you have to be smart about it, or greed will be your downfall.

Powders suppliers were careless.

Open source boards are an open invitation for LE.

Match up careless powder sources with open source boards filled with half-assed sources and you have the recipe for disaster. Throw the gasoline that is impatient whiny newbies on top of that, and you have Raw Deal.

Which is why there should not be any source talk on the open forums.

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I support this petition for sure.

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whats the position on non-steroid suppliers such as research chems?

What about places like bulknutrition that does not sell research chems or roids.

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I do support this petition.