I just started it today. Would like if people would share their experience on this meal plan with me. So far the first meal is taking a year to eat. It’s very good however. This is a lot of food for me. Just going to have to suck it up. Talk to you all later.
[quote]provy07 wrote:
I just started it today. Would like if people would share their experience on this meal plan with me. So far the first meal is taking a year to eat. It’s very good however. This is a lot of food for me. Just going to have to suck it up. Talk to you all later.[/quote]
Good question. I am particularly interested in hearing follow ups from the people who T-Jacked this item last year.
I’ve been doing it for eight weeks. The first two weeks are the most difficult because you have to get a routine to make all that food that fits into your schedule. It is alot of food and alot of chewing, but it works! I leaned out from 13% bf to around 9% now and maintained all strength.
After two months and because of my job travelling schedule I’ve made two meals a shake (see Berardi’s super shake recipe) This helps keep me inline when I’m travelling and not overflowing the dishwasher with bowls and plates. In addition, my coworkers are very glad I’m not eating as much tuna because they would bitch and wine because of the smell.
Once you get into the habit it becomes normal given you take enough time each and every week to shop, prepare, and eat your meals. I do enjoy the protein powder and yogurt bedtime snack! I would say stick with it for 8 weeks until you develop habits, then experiment a bit with shakes if you want (it’s amazing not having to chew food for once).
The main thing is developing those 10 habits. Once you master those 10 nutritional habits, you may find your own ways of incorporating them into daily meals.
I hope I can figure out how to make my own plan because this is rough. It’s only the first day and I don’t know how I can do this. The salad combinations are what kills me. I will shove the food down even though I’m full that won’t be a problem. The problem is I can’t stand the Apple Cider Vineger, Flax Oil, Olive Oil combinations that are put on the spinach. I’m thinking maybe I can just drink that down quick and eat the spinach seperate. What you think?
Heres some tip that worked for me:
Buy Raspberry Vinegar, it doesn’t smell practically at all and is a nice change from the apple cider vinegar.
Where are you guys finding this diet at, if you don’t mind me asking? Thank you in advance for any replies.
Provy,
Not going to BS you… It takes some serious planning and dedication at first! The first month is hard I think.
Couple of suggestions that helped me and my experience:
-Your friends can wait for the first couple of weeks… If anything may get in the way of the nutrition… Avoid it at all cost at FIRST…
For example: Friends call you up… “Hey Get lifted let’s go out to eat tonight and then to the club.”
Dooon’t do it unless the meal is with you. However, TRUST me this won’t work… The bouncer probably won’t let you in like what happened to me… Your friends will laugh at you at first with some remarks that can be embarrassing… It is better to get your feet off the ground and focus on hitting the gym and making the meals as well as eating them…
-Your mother may… like mine, repeat MANY times that, “if you eat now hunny you won’t be hungry for dinner”
Politely let her know that you probably won’t be eating dinner often. AND while it may sound odd… you will be hungry in another 2-3 hours…(bless her heart)
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If you mess up… no biggie… pick yourself back up with the next meal or next day.
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Your taste buds will adjust!
Worry about the “values clash” after you get ahold on the habit. After you get this habit… it will be impossible to remove… And why would you want to? you’ll be eating really healthy. People will refer to you as, “the healthiest person they have ever met” Trust me…
Take aways:
Eventually you will be able to effortlessly take your food with you to your friends and where ever you go.(work etc.) Your friends may even start to get a little jealous but once you let them know you are not going to change this they will see the light and leave you be. Your mother will get used to it as well. Your tastebuds as well. Your body will will demand this food from now on… TRUST me it’s a little strange… Once you were eating not such healthy stuff and all of a sudden you will be demanding it… You won’t be able to remember the last time you did not have at least 3 salads a day. If you are not getting a salad you will be craving one. You’ll be leaner, meaner than ever before… MY favorite… This habit will be with you for your entire life I think… It has been with me for the last 2 years… every day… every meal… Don’t bother with the people that give you a hard time about eating healthy… Every time I sit down to eat I get looks and then the remarks… Don’t allow yourself to give into this. After all, they really envy your discipline and poise.
Have some fun with this… Turn the music on in the morning and make the breakfest ritual… You are the king of the kitchen… the master of disaster. (make sure to clean up…)
I’m still figuring out individualization. Don’t mess around with that until you can eat those 6 meals every day for a month straight. It takes time and lot’s of filling in the gaps and misunderstandings inherent in any work. You’ll be individualizing your entire life so just pound away until you can grasp it. Seems easy but the DVD fails to mention important side notes. Buy His e-book “gourmet nutrition” about 6 months from now or something. Or buy it now but don’t use it until you have the foundation.
Visit here: http://www.johnberardi.com/products/no_nonsense/qa.htm
I can’t think of anything else off the top of my head… I still have lots of questions regarding individualization…
This will be enough to give you a head straight into this.
-Get Lifted
[quote]outlawkayak wrote:
I’ve been doing it for eight weeks. The first two weeks are the most difficult because you have to get a routine to make all that food that fits into your schedule. It is alot of food and alot of chewing, but it works! I leaned out from 13% bf to around 9% now and maintained all strength.
After two months and because of my job travelling schedule I’ve made two meals a shake (see Berardi’s super shake recipe) This helps keep me inline when I’m travelling and not overflowing the dishwasher with bowls and plates. In addition, my coworkers are very glad I’m not eating as much tuna because they would bitch and wine because of the smell.
Once you get into the habit it becomes normal given you take enough time each and every week to shop, prepare, and eat your meals. I do enjoy the protein powder and yogurt bedtime snack! I would say stick with it for 8 weeks until you develop habits, then experiment a bit with shakes if you want (it’s amazing not having to chew food for once).
The main thing is developing those 10 habits. Once you master those 10 nutritional habits, you may find your own ways of incorporating them into daily meals.[/quote]
I’ve heard JB recommends eating yogurt as a bed time snack now, as opposed to cottage cheese. I don’t have access to his book or DVD but what do you guys think?
thanks,
Gary
[quote]chints wrote:
outlawkayak wrote:
I’ve been doing it for eight weeks. The first two weeks are the most difficult because you have to get a routine to make all that food that fits into your schedule. It is alot of food and alot of chewing, but it works! I leaned out from 13% bf to around 9% now and maintained all strength.
After two months and because of my job travelling schedule I’ve made two meals a shake (see Berardi’s super shake recipe) This helps keep me inline when I’m travelling and not overflowing the dishwasher with bowls and plates. In addition, my coworkers are very glad I’m not eating as much tuna because they would bitch and wine because of the smell.
Once you get into the habit it becomes normal given you take enough time each and every week to shop, prepare, and eat your meals. I do enjoy the protein powder and yogurt bedtime snack! I would say stick with it for 8 weeks until you develop habits, then experiment a bit with shakes if you want (it’s amazing not having to chew food for once).
The main thing is developing those 10 habits. Once you master those 10 nutritional habits, you may find your own ways of incorporating them into daily meals.
I’ve heard JB recommends eating yogurt as a bed time snack now, as opposed to cottage cheese. I don’t have access to his book or DVD but what do you guys think?
thanks,
Gary[/quote]
That’s his pre-bedtime snack. 1/2 cup lowfat yogurt and one scoop chocolate Grow! and 1/2 banana. It’s extremely tasty, I tried cottage cheese but just don’t like the taste or the texture (last night in fact)… but now I’m wondering if the yogurt’s a P+C meal or if I can add salmon oil pills to it to make it a P+F meal? because I need that extra P+F meal as I’m doing the P+C meals in the morning with no salmon oil supplements.
I think there’s only around 8 grams carbs in the yogurt so I might be over complicating it.
But like Get Lifted said, ONLY after you get used to the basics of the No Nonsense Nutrition Plan you can individualize the diet here and there, with his Gourmet Nutrition book, but make sure you stick with the 10 nutrition rules Berardi laid out.
Outlaw… It’s 1/2 cup full fat yogurt and 1/2 bannana.
All the active cultures etc. Full fat yogurt… Play that section again, I had to play it a couple times to get everything.
The individualization is difficult to understand the “why.”-Which is missing… and essential I think to understanding and using the system… For example: You’ll notice his Massive Eating articles recommend other steps that are different from the steps in the DVD… MMM that clearly is not the WHOLE system. It says simply to repeat after you do this and that… It loops in other words… The Scrawny to Brawny book has different steps as well.
If it is a continuous loop of carbs and the system is shown… then why on earth would you introduce other macronutrients???If that is all JB? UNLESS there is more to it… This is confusing for someone just starting… He states that a beginner needs a plan without little variance.(Which is accomplished with the foundation) However, with the individualization DVD it is not spelled out… How much and of what food? This is clarified by my questions in the DVD Q/A section of his site at the bottom and my brain picking…
The last step in ME is add 250kcal of fat. Oh yeah, and you’ll notice in the DVD he does not tell you how much…!(250kcal I think is his measure) He just says add in carbs here and here… Doesn’t tell you of what food and how much… Just Add Carbs… The general consensus is it is 250 kcal from reading his book, ME, articles, etc. He uses 250kcal in all of these. This is his measurement I think. Now, at this point… you need to get yourself a scale to measure out things and then go to the government website USDA to find the kcal of your measurements. That way you can ADD IN THE 250kcal! You’ll also need a fat caliper which is excluded in the DVD -To do individualization right anyway… Q/A on his website link I gave illustrates why using this data is important.
clearly, it is not the entire system. The question for me now is why the change in macronutrients in the steps. What is the reasoning for some of the changes… Repeat step #5 JB… for how long and when do you adjust depending on the goal? Why use Carbs for this system… mostly carbs and fat for another… And protein, fat, carbs for another? WHY WHY WHY.
In other words… he is using different nutrients for the different goals I think… I don’t know whether they are arbitrary or they are planned for the goal… To really advance… one must know the reasoning for picking to add carbs, protein, or fat to the diet in the 250kcal decision making model and adjustments. Is it depending on how well you handle carbs or fat or protein… What is it JB? And “things” would we need to find this out.
The other thing to think about is the DVD only takes a nutrition stand point… whereas MIKE and JBS book integrates the two… He mentions this DVD is for people that exercise… Moreover, is there a reason he is picking the nutrients because of the training??? More fat because the inflammation of the muscle or what…
The DVD is really top notch… I just like it so much I want to know how it works entirely to get a grasp on how everything works… It is the best money I have ever spent on a product… Hands down… It just bothers me it was not completed…
I don’t know… maybe he didn’t want to spill everything but I felt it was incomplete in the individualization section… It’s taken a year to really piece together things so I have a better understanding of whats going on in the individualization part… I’m still figuring it out otherwise I would not have even got this Scrawny to Brawny book… Clearly there is a missing link in the system given. If it is not missing… There is a section of the semantic network not presented in the material… Intentionally or wasn’t known until after he made it…
-Get Lifted
Get Lifted - For most of the plan, I’ve been using full fat yogurt… but just recently I think I switched to 1/2 fat because of something Chris Shugart wrote. I’m pretty sure it still holds the active cultures because I knew that was an issue with choosing yogurt.
I do agree that the DVD lacked the reasoning JB chose what foods and when. I just now learned about the great benefits of pineapple and banana’s from Lowery’s articles.
They’ve created monsters in us - they feed us all this scientific explanations on how and why to do and eat things at certain times and when we don’t get that we start questioning. Clearly a double edged sword to their selling approach.
Yeah, still a great product… It really changed my entire eating habits. I am trying to piece things together on the individualization side though. I think I am getting the hang of it but I really need to know some more about the adjustments and the reasoning behind it to master it…
Outlaw, Provy… Let me know if you have any questions I may be able to help… In addition, we may be able to figure some things out and piece everything together until we come to better understand the system and how it relates to training and all…
-Get Lifted