[quote]harryhoudini wrote:
I don’t understand that at all. Are we that pussified?
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Not yet. Here in England I was asked by two male members of my gym ( I am female ) if I could:
“lower that weight [b]gently[/b]”.
I was doing set and reps of deadlifts @220lbs.
Do I look like a ballerina?..seriously.
[quote]Coldiron wrote:
A non-grunting gym.[/quote]
That sound you heard was that of my jaw hitting the floor.
CYNIC/JUDGMENTAL ALARM
Oh, what? We’re all supposed to accept goddamn retardation now?
Natural selection does not work fast enough.
Watch: some thing will happen in a Fitness Center where only the serious lifters will survive. Like a collasping ceiling.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
This is just another symptom of where this once great nation is headed.
Because forbidding weight dropping and grunting is unamerican?
I am about as much of a “non-pussy” as I know, and I don’t grunt. I guess it’s an extravert/introvert thing. When you grunt, you’re just saying, “LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT WHAT I JUST DID!” That ain’t me.
Also, most of the guys who grunt at my gym are fat phucks who think they are big.
If you’re yelling to prep for a new deadlift PR, that’s great. But if you’re grunting while doing cheat curls with 45 lbs. dumbbells? Save it.[/quote]
I make very little noise when lifting…HOWEVER, there have been times when I was doing the most weight for a last set, with a spotter motivating me, that I have grunted to get that last rep. I would imagine many here are the same way. Just by the act of this system being there, it would force me to avoid ever pushing that limit again if I were to train there. regardless of if I grunted on a regular basis or not, my mind would be focused on never approaching that point…instead of what it needed to be focused on.
If you have a reason for why this would not be the case, I would love to hear it.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Because forbidding weight dropping and grunting is unamerican?
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Dropping some weights is unamerican. I’m fine with dropping O-lifts and Deadlifts. If you get in over your head on a squat and need to ditch it, that’s entertainment.
If you drop dumbbells after a set of presses, fuck you. Learn to lift.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I am about as much of a “non-pussy” as I know, and I don’t grunt. I guess it’s an extravert/introvert thing. When you grunt, you’re just saying, “LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT WHAT I JUST DID!” That ain’t me.
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Well, there’s that, but I usually hear a “damn that was tough” grunt. They are two different entities.
[quote]on edge wrote:
If you drop dumbbells after a set of presses, fuck you. Learn to lift.[/quote]
This statement usually comes from people who aren’t pressing over 120lbs dumbbells. There is a reason Ronnie Coleman dropped his dumbbells in his video at the end of a set. It is because when you are going that heavy, you actually risk injury trying to put them down softly when you have already reached failure or close to it.
I agree that it makes little sense for people to do this when they aren’t lifting anywhere near that heavy. However, I can completely understand why some guy pressing two 140-150lbs dumbbells is doing it.
Check out the out of shape piece of shit wearing the ARMY shirt. Not that he is a piece of shit because he is out of shape. Just because he is so judgemental, and such a freaking pansy.
Then there is the anorexic looking trainer, who gets his paycheck from planet fitness who is claiming that the noise is unnecessary for all, and then does the exaggerated dropping of the weights at the end of the pretend set.
I train to failure quite often, and I never have to drop the weights.
Then there is the problem of the whole, “people grunting takes away from my pansy ass concentration”.
GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. If you were really concentrating, people grunting wouldn’t bother you at all because you would be to fucking busy concentrating.
Fucking piece of shit.
P.S
That god damn alarm would make me kill people
Cyah
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
This is just another symptom of where this once great nation is headed.
Because forbidding weight dropping and grunting is unamerican?
I am about as much of a “non-pussy” as I know, and I don’t grunt. I guess it’s an extravert/introvert thing. When you grunt, you’re just saying, “LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT WHAT I JUST DID!” That ain’t me.
Also, most of the guys who grunt at my gym are fat phucks who think they are big.
If you’re yelling to prep for a new deadlift PR, that’s great. But if you’re grunting while doing cheat curls with 45 lbs. dumbbells? Save it.[/quote]
I train in my basement and have nobody to impress. I also am not much of a screamer overall, but sometimes the effort finds me unavoidably making some noise later in a set.
I couldn’t train somewhere where I had it in the back in my mind that some ALARM would go off if I dared to work hard enough to force that out of myself.
What was once considered a discipline for the driven, the mentally and physically tough or at least those who were aspiring to be such is being diluted down to an utterly commercial enterprise where restraint is encouraged and limit pushing effort is frowned upon.
There’s a difference between some tool who clearly craves attention and a person who is just working hard enough to feel some pain and exhaustion. Call me crazy, but I would find a genuine specimen of the latter an inspiration no matter how big they were.
This is now forbidden at these places in the name of keeping the terminally mediocre comfortable. It’s a shame.
Haha! When I scrolled down the most recent posts, I found “Roman Chair Orgasm” followed by “No Grunting Allowed”. Classic!
[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
Now, now yall. Let the pansies have their own place. It keeps them out of ours.[/quote]
Jesus christ man, your a genius.
Seriously though, way to put a positive spin on this gym. I never thought about it that way.
Cyah man
Grunting is damn annoying when it become yelling. There’s a limit to everything. At some point the grunt isn’t just an involuntary sound from lifting heavy weight, it a noise used by some ass to get the attention he thinks he needs to work out. This loud sound is usually accompanied by a wife beater or some other equally retarded gym gear and a pony tail.
You know what else is fucking annoying…someone smashing down weights so hard that even though you are wearing and ipod and the gym radio is on, it feels like someone just gonged you behind the head. I dont care if you just dead lifted the entire earth down and the weight stayed in one place, if you can lift it, you can lower it.
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
harryhoudini wrote:
I don’t understand that at all. Are we that pussified?
Not yet. Here in England I was asked by two male members of my gym ( I am female ) if I could:
“lower that weight [b]gently[/b]”.
I was doing set and reps of deadlifts @220lbs.
Do I look like a ballerina?..seriously.
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Alpha F sounds like my kind of woman.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
on edge wrote:
If you drop dumbbells after a set of presses, fuck you. Learn to lift.
This statement usually comes from people who aren’t pressing over 120lbs dumbbells. There is a reason Ronnie Coleman dropped his dumbbells in his video at the end of a set. It is because when you are going that heavy, you actually risk injury trying to put them down softly when you have already reached failure or close to it.
I agree that it makes little sense for people to do this when they aren’t lifting anywhere near that heavy. However, I can completely understand why some guy pressing two 140-150lbs dumbbells is doing it.[/quote]
I’ll give a pass to someone who actually fails on their last rep. Assuming youmake the last rep, my experience is it’s easier and safer to rock up with it.
I don’t see why 120’s would be any kind of magic number. If your pushing at your limit, you’re at your limit regardless of how strong you are. The 80’s I have in my basement are as difficult for me as 100’s were for me when I was younger.
You are right, though, I have no experience pressing 120’s. I suspect that you have no experience rocking it to your knees. I invite you to practice the technique with lower weights for a while and progress up as you feel comfortable. I think if you give it an honest chance you will change your mind.
[quote]on edge wrote:
I suspect that you have no experience rocking it to your knees. [/quote]
You suspect wrong. That is how I get them in position when I do them. Ending a set, however, with the most weight I can do is a different story altogether. And, no, the goal is not to send the weights rolling across the gym but you will no doubt hear them hit the floor if you are near. I’m not talking about letting them take a free dive from top position.
Using weights that heavy is a full body stress. It is not the same as lighter weights even if it is your personal max.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
on edge wrote:
I suspect that you have no experience rocking it to your knees.
You suspect wrong. That is how I get them in position when I do them. Ending a set, however, with the most weight I can do is a different story altogether. And, no, the goal is not to send the weights rolling across the gym but you will no doubt hear them hit the floor if you are near. I’m not talking about letting them take a free dive from top position.
Using weights that heavy is a full body stress. It is not the same as lighter weights even if it is your personal max. [/quote]
Seriously.
I weigh about 200. When I’ve got db’s over 100 that makes sitting back up a little bit difficult.
And lowering them nicely? Has anyone not realized how much that can tear up a shoulder?
Those people should kill themselves. I think I am going to get a trial membership, go in after eating about a dozen eggs, go after a heavy squat and rip a fart that sounds like I am tearing a new a$$hole. Lets see what they say about that.
Also, what if a person had turrets syndrome? That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
However, this is indicative of what is rapidly permeating our society as a whole and consequently makes a website like this one stand out in stark contrast. [/quote]
And we are all thankful for that.
T-Nation, I mean. Not our modern vaginafied society.
[quote]the juggernaut wrote:
<<< Also, what if a person had turrets syndrome? That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.[/quote]
On a more serious note, how do they gauge this. Do they have a decibel meter? What if it’s close, but not quite “alarm worthy” and it still bothers someone. Or is absolute silence the standard where clearing your throat is a violation?
What if somebody sees a friend they haven’t seen in a while for instance: “HAAY MAN HOW YA BEEN?” ? Does that count? What if you pinch a finger, drop a plate by accident… twice?
What if you’re given more of a pass than someone else because you’re the owner or manager’s nephew or singled out because of your imposing size and working poundage?
This seems to be a slippery slope that is ultimately unenforceable in a consistent manner.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
on edge wrote:
I suspect that you have no experience rocking it to your knees.
You suspect wrong. That is how I get them in position when I do them. Ending a set, however, with the most weight I can do is a different story
Using weights that heavy is a full body stress. It is not the same as lighter weights even if it is your personal max. [/quote]
From what you’re saying, it doesn’t sound like you are talking about the same technique I am. With heavy weight, everyone kips the weight from their knees to their chest. Not to lockout possition, that would be too hard.
I am talking about going from lockout position at the end of a set and catching it with the thighs and rocking up. I could do this with 120’s even though I can’t come close to pressing it.