Nike Pro-Fit or Under Armour?

[quote]no7orious1 wrote:
using the compression one for wrestling practice. There’s going to be lot of sweating in them.

Are you suppose to wash it once for every use or just rinse it in water and then wash it every several uses?[/quote]

Wouldn’t you be better served by wearing rash guard, like he No Gi BJJ players use.

I think it would take a lot more abuse, since that’s what it’s made for.

Just a thought.

[quote]swivel wrote:
i’m amazed that people think underarmour keeps you cool. i’ve got a few of their loose fit style shirts and those things are warm to wear to say the least.
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Underarmour shirts are not meant to be worn under other articles of clothing. The Underarmour shirts keep you dry/cool by moving your sweat off of your body to the outside of the shirt, where the sweat can dry faster. Wearing a shirt over an Underarmour shirt defeats the purpose of wearing the Underarmour shirt.

[quote]proteus189 wrote:
swivel wrote:
i’m amazed that people think underarmour keeps you cool. i’ve got a few of their loose fit style shirts and those things are warm to wear to say the least.

Underarmour shirts are not meant to be worn under other articles of clothing. The Underarmour shirts keep you dry/cool by moving your sweat off of your body to the outside of the shirt, where the sweat can dry faster. Wearing a shirt over an Underarmour shirt defeats the purpose of wearing the Underarmour shirt.

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you just typed it four times in three sentences.
did the fact that you’re still in your superman jammies phase completely blind you to the intended purpose, namesake, and brand of this product ?

[quote]proteus189 wrote:
swivel wrote:
i’m amazed that people think underarmour keeps you cool. i’ve got a few of their loose fit style shirts and those things are warm to wear to say the least.

Underarmour shirts are not meant to be worn under other articles of clothing. The Underarmour shirts keep you dry/cool by moving your sweat off of your body to the outside of the shirt, where the sweat can dry faster. Wearing a shirt over an Underarmour shirt defeats the purpose of wearing the Underarmour shirt.

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I wear it under my hockey gear when I used to get really hot, wehreas now the sweat will dry and run off and I stay cooler.

[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
proteus189 wrote:
swivel wrote:
i’m amazed that people think underarmour keeps you cool. i’ve got a few of their loose fit style shirts and those things are warm to wear to say the least.

Underarmour shirts are not meant to be worn under other articles of clothing. The Underarmour shirts keep you dry/cool by moving your sweat off of your body to the outside of the shirt, where the sweat can dry faster. Wearing a shirt over an Underarmour shirt defeats the purpose of wearing the Underarmour shirt.

I wear it under my hockey gear when I used to get really hot, wehreas now the sweat will dry and run off and I stay cooler.[/quote]

totally. if you’re playing a sport where you’re sweating for extending periods or going through cycles of repeated heating cooling etc. underarmour will definitely keep you dryer and more comfortable. i think it would work great for wrestling.

i still think you guys are nuts off the deep end on this “cooler” shit though. how can adding another layer of anything except fresh air make you cooler ? that’s just marketing bs thought up by the same people who think drinking hot coffee during a heat wave cools you down.

[quote]swivel wrote:
i still think you guys are nuts off the deep end on this “cooler” shit though. how can adding another layer of anything except fresh air make you cooler ? that’s just marketing bs thought up by the same people who think drinking hot coffee during a heat wave cools you down.[/quote]

It is cooler than a regular cotton shirt. Who is claiming it is cooler than bare skin? You actually wasted time typing that bullshit, too. You are the only one swearing that a mesh shirt made of thin polyester somehow gave you a heat rash.

If that is the case, you would have gotten a heat rash regardless. The majority of the shirts I wear are either UA or similar design. I wouldn’t be wearing them if they didn’t keep me cooler and dry faster than regular shirts…which is the point.

Prof is correct again. UA was designed to improve on the cotton t-shirt. Anyone who has ever worked out in a cotton T-Shirt, and gotten it so soaked in sweat that it was heavy, would immeadiately pick an UA shirt over it, because of its design.

UA is cooler, because it is thinner and allows more air through it, than a cotton T-Shirt. It’s insane to think it would be cooler than bare skin.

In the winter time, I wear a UA cold gear under my shirt, and I don’t need a coat. The cold gear is awesome. I actually went skiing with my ski pants, UA cold gear top, gloves and hat in below freezing temperatures and never got cold.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
It is cooler than a regular cotton shirt. Who is claiming it is cooler than bare skin? You actually wasted time typing that bullshit, too. You are the only one swearing that a mesh shirt made of thin polyester somehow gave you a heat rash.

If that is the case, you would have gotten a heat rash regardless. The majority of the shirts I wear are either UA or similar design. I wouldn’t be wearing them if they didn’t keep me cooler and dry faster than regular shirts…which is the point.[/quote]

[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
Prof is correct again. UA was designed to improve on the cotton t-shirt. Anyone who has ever worked out in a cotton T-Shirt, and gotten it so soaked in sweat that it was heavy, would immeadiately pick an UA shirt over it, because of its design.

UA is cooler, because it is thinner and allows more air through it, than a cotton T-Shirt. It’s insane to think it would be cooler than bare skin.

In the winter time, I wear a UA cold gear under my shirt, and I don’t need a coat. The cold gear is awesome. I actually went skiing with my ski pants, UA cold gear top, gloves and hat in below freezing temperatures and never got cold.
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I wear it on my motorcycle in the winter. It’s like having a big sweater on without any of the bulk.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
swivel wrote:
i still think you guys are nuts off the deep end on this “cooler” shit though. how can adding another layer of anything except fresh air make you cooler ? that’s just marketing bs thought up by the same people who think drinking hot coffee during a heat wave cools you down.

It is cooler than a regular cotton shirt. Who is claiming it is cooler than bare skin? You actually wasted time typing that bullshit, too. You are the only one swearing that a mesh shirt made of thin polyester somehow gave you a heat rash.

If that is the case, you would have gotten a heat rash regardless. The majority of the shirts I wear are either UA or similar design. I wouldn’t be wearing them if they didn’t keep me cooler and dry faster than regular shirts…which is the point.[/quote]

no, that guy valetinius knows several guys who had the heat rash thing and i merely noted my single episode of heat rash coincided with day i wore underarmour.

look i believe in my experience just as much as you believe in yours. and you’re right, i shouldn’t insult you because my results vary.

i could wear underarmour, or any of those type shirts, (i have starter, craft, patagonia, castelli, nike and hind) tomorrow and sweat will collect and pour down the center channel of my back like nothing else.

it doesn’t even have to be hot out. yes, like dc trainer said the fabric does let more air through; if you hold it over your mouth it’s easier to breath through all of those shirts than it is a cotton one. but no matter how light or breathable the fabric, the closer to the skin it is the less air flow you’re getting.

even the loose gear fits closer because of the way the fabric hangs and the fact they use a raglan-type sleeve and a trim cut. these are great features designed to make it move well and not bunch up and bind. this makes total sense and is great design if you’re wearing it under stuff.

but worn as a single layer any shitty cotton shirt with a loose/bad cut that lets air in all the way around underneath , from the sleeves and even the neck, beats every high tech shirt in my drawer exactly because it allows more fresh air to come into contact with bare skin.

no matter how light or breathable the fabric, the closer to the skin it is the less air flow you’re getting. in this case it’s the air that’s getting underneath the fabric that matters not through it.
i have 2 shirts that i do consider cooler than cotton and those are mesh.

anyway, i have no doubt your experience is different than mine as our bodies aren’t remotely comparable.

Hey prof,

I think I read somewhere that you have hyperhydrosis?

I have this as well, i was wondering if you have had any luck with these shirts for hiding some off the effects of sweating?

Never really bought nice shirts like these so I am curious.

[quote]Frank.S wrote:
Hey prof,

I think I read somewhere that you have hyperhydrosis?

I have this as well, i was wondering if you have had any luck with these shirts for hiding some off the effects of sweating?

Never really bought nice shirts like these so I am curious.[/quote]

Yes, they help. That is why I wear them.

[quote]swivel wrote:
it doesn’t even have to be hot out. yes, like dc trainer said the fabric does let more air through; if you hold it over your mouth it’s easier to breath through all of those shirts than it is a cotton one. but no matter how light or breathable the fabric, the closer to the skin it is the less air flow you’re getting.
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Dude, at my size, I wear a XXXL in LOOSE gear underarmour. If it isn’t tight to my skin in any way, how is it so tight to yours? For the last time, wear a bigger shirt and quit getting the smallest one so that it clings to you so tightly that you somehow blame it for heat rash.

I wear the Nike Pro versions the UA ones are hard to obtain in the UK. Although during the hot days off the summer id just wear the Tight fit top and a pair of shorts to train in. Some of the looks id get from gym members you’d think i was wearing a space helmet pink flip flops and a thong.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
swivel wrote:
it doesn’t even have to be hot out. yes, like dc trainer said the fabric does let more air through; if you hold it over your mouth it’s easier to breath through all of those shirts than it is a cotton one. but no matter how light or breathable the fabric, the closer to the skin it is the less air flow you’re getting.

Dude, at my size, I wear a XXXL in LOOSE gear underarmour. If it isn’t tight to my skin in any way, how is it so tight to yours? For the last time, wear a bigger shirt and quit getting the smallest one so that it clings to you so tightly that you somehow blame it for heat rash.[/quote]

well, i’m kind of offended you’d think i’d wear a skintight shirt anywhere other than a bar.

i’ve already stated it’s the loose gear i’m talking about. but it doesn’t matter how big it is if the nature of the fabric is to “stay down”. for the same reason lifting in a 2 sizes too large heavy sweat-shirt that gaps and bunches is often more comfortable than wearing a normal fitting t-shirt. i have no doubt you’ve never found a shirt large enough to experienced this.

the heat rash only happened once and came as a result of wearing the product as it was intended : under something else. their whole marketing schtick is that by adding another layer of magic material you will be cooler, which is retarded.

I can’t believe people are arguing about this shit.

UA and Nike shirts are both big improvements over regular t-shirts in keeping you dry in hot weather. End of thread!

I know this doesn’t help with the OPs question, but I feel that chain mail keeps my nice and cool when I’m doing my MMA training.

DB

Dollarbill:

Does that come in short sleeve? ROFL… I bet that came from the American Male catalog :stuck_out_tongue:

“Roll in sand to remove rust”

In all honesty though I use NIKE DRI-FIT / Sphere since it’s what I can afford vs. UnderArmour & the fit is more forgiving :stuck_out_tongue:

The weave sucks, though… lot of pulls.

Nowadays I train in ASICS Dri-Fit style shirts that are just amazing…

COSTCO also has COOLMAX shirts that are halfway decent fitting.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
swivel wrote:
i still think you guys are nuts off the deep end on this “cooler” shit though. how can adding another layer of anything except fresh air make you cooler ? that’s just marketing bs thought up by the same people who think drinking hot coffee during a heat wave cools you down.

It is cooler than a regular cotton shirt. Who is claiming it is cooler than bare skin? You actually wasted time typing that bullshit, too. You are the only one swearing that a mesh shirt made of thin polyester somehow gave you a heat rash.

If that is the case, you would have gotten a heat rash regardless. The majority of the shirts I wear are either UA or similar design. I wouldn’t be wearing them if they didn’t keep me cooler and dry faster than regular shirts…which is the point.[/quote]

The reason sweating cools you is that when the water evaporates off of your skin, heat goes with it. Air flow may aid in this process through convection by taking heat away.

Sweat dripping off your body does not keep you cool–it only cools you if it “adheres” to your body long enough to be evaporated and take the heat with it. This is the reason adding another layer can sometimes actually make you cooler.

The special material holds water onto the surface of your body so it can be evaporated rather than dripped off, but doesn’t hold the water as tightly as, for example, a cotton t-shirt. It releases water more readily, leading to more evaporation, so you feel cooler and your shirt feels less soaked.

However, if you are not sweating at all, wearing “cooling” fabrics will not make you cooler.

I like Under Armour.

I wear the no-sleeve compression shirts every single day. I used to wear thin fruit of the loom t-shirts as under shirts until I discovered Under Armour.

I’ve been losing weight for a few months, and the compression effect of the shirt kind of reforms my yucky man-boobs into what look like excellent pecks, so that’s a huge bonus in the daily workplace confidence dept. These shirts do wonders if you’re not ‘there’ yet in your fat loss.

They’ve become a second skin to me. I now have a inventory to wear a freshly cleaned shirt daily. The collar doesn’t get stretched and they’re as tight fitting as ever. Perfect.

I wash them with my regular clothes at low heat, and then I hang dry them instead of throwing them in the dryer. My brother is semi-pro football, and says it’s ok to dry, but I’m not convinced. My method works great.

During this summer here, I’ve noticed I’m way cooler that I was before wearing the same golf shirts, yet with the UA rather than regular thin t-shirts.
Yes I know, I could have just worn no undershirt, but I have issues. :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s all good. I’m a total believer.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
TrainerinDC wrote:
Prof is correct again. UA was designed to improve on the cotton t-shirt. Anyone who has ever worked out in a cotton T-Shirt, and gotten it so soaked in sweat that it was heavy, would immeadiately pick an UA shirt over it, because of its design.

UA is cooler, because it is thinner and allows more air through it, than a cotton T-Shirt. It’s insane to think it would be cooler than bare skin.

In the winter time, I wear a UA cold gear under my shirt, and I don’t need a coat. The cold gear is awesome. I actually went skiing with my ski pants, UA cold gear top, gloves and hat in below freezing temperatures and never got cold.

I wear it on my motorcycle in the winter. It’s like having a big sweater on without any of the bulk.
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Damn thats really interesting. Is that the ColdGear stuff or the HeatGear stuff. This stuff should come in handy for winter sprints.