Nick Griffin MEP at Copenhagen

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]alit4 wrote:
nominal prospect, you are a naive child with absolutely no idea what you are talking about. you do not live in the uk,have little or no exposure to british life, culture, ideals, or even media, form opinions purely for trolling puposes and have no idea what it means to be of “white native anglo saxon origin”[/quote]

Then why don’t you stop telling me about “what I am” and start showing me and the rest of the forum exactly where it is that I’m so wrong and misguided.

You devote lots of energy towards attacking my capacity to make certain arguments without even attempting to refute those arguments.

For this reason your post is one big red herring and serves only to validate my arguments. If my opponents cannot even address the substance of my arguments and must instead resort to attacking me, then clearly I must be doing (or saying) something right.

[quote]alit4 wrote:
you also have no concept of tolerance. also i understand you are a white american, not a native american, therefore if nick the BNP principals were applied over there, you would be sent home. (which i presume means coming over here… shudder’s)[/quote]

No concept of tolerance? On the contrary, I tolerate stupidity on a daily basis. I’m doing it right now, though really I ought not to.

How on earth did you come to be sure of who I am, where I’ve been, and what I know? I’m not going to spend ages refuting unfounded accusations, for the burden of proof lies on you to back up such claims. In the alternative, you could simply choose to address the substance of my arguments and explain, in clear terms using your own experience, why you believe my claims to be false.

[quote]alit4 wrote:
he is despised by a hell of a lot more people who he doesn’t campaign against too.[/quote]

Thanks for your contribution, though I already addressed it when I wrote the following:

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
The fact that the BNP doesn’t have more supporters says a lot more about the British people than about the BNP.

And what it says is not good. Not good at all.[/quote]

As for the video you posted, I’ve seen it already and once again I think Mr. Griffin, the poor man, did a wonderful job of defending himself against the vile scumbags who attacked him while following a primitive herd mentality.

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[quote]Bambi wrote:
Mate leave it. The guy’s a nutcase, he said that I should expect and deserve second class treatment because one of my parents was an immigrant and he believes Jews have excessive control in the media and government. There’s no arguing with him.[/quote]

what, in the UK? lol!

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[quote]Bambi wrote:
Mate leave it. The guy’s a nutcase, he said that I should expect and deserve second class treatment because one of my parents was an immigrant and he believes Jews have excessive control in the media and government. There’s no arguing with him.[/quote]

I would have to agree with that. In the last thread NP and I crossed paths, he tried to construct an argument that as Jews were not Germans (laughable), the Nazis were right to treat them … differently (not so laughable). I’d normally advise not to feed the trolls (that’s why I mostly lurk nowadays) - but I’m happy to see that there are newer posters who step up against the nazification of PWI.

Makkun

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Nominal Prospect,by saying there is such a thing as ‘left wing globalist elite’,you have declared yourself a complete retard.First of all,left wing politics is opposed to the ruling political class,the political elite,which exists in the vast majority of Western countries.Here in Ireland it’s Fianna Fail and Fine Gael,in England it’s the Tories and Labour.The left wing sees these people as not representing the people of their nations,and as representing their own class,which tends to be relatively well off people who have the money to have the power to make things happen.So the very title ‘left wing elite’ doesn’t make any fucking sense to begin with.

Now,‘left wing globalist’ is even more laughable.Do you not see the protests on your TV screens in America every year when the G8 meet?Hundreds,even thousands,of left wing activists rioting and protesting against the G8 because it represents the spread of globalisation around the world.How did you come up with the idea of a left wing globalist?Are you serious?

I suppose judging by your political opinions,you don’t really know anything about politics to begin with.But for your own sake,if you’re going to try and argue your point with someone who’s actually properly involved in the real world’s political scene,do some research before you make such nonsensical statements.

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While I do not find Nick Griffin a particularly respectable character, for various reasons, the left is indeed the elite and is doing precisely what can be expected: undermining western civilization. They would not stay ineffectual ranters forever

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[quote]valiant knight wrote:
While I do not find Nick Griffin a particularly respectable character, for various reasons, the left is indeed the elite and is doing precisely what can be expected: undermining western civilization. They would not stay ineffectual ranters forever[/quote]

Please explain this?Can you point out any sort of a decent number of PROPER left wing parties in power?And I don’t mean sell out left wingers like Labour or the Democrats in the States,who are still capitalist to the core.

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Nick Griffin, the last and best hope for a re-birth of Britain!!

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Oh boy this ain’t Kansas Toto…

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Give it up, Britain just ultimate pussy nation. There’s no going back for them. They’ll be some lil white slave hoes to sum Muslim masters, talking about how great it all is 40 years from now. Fuck em. We rebelled from their lame culture for a reason.

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[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Give it up, Britain just ultimate pussy nation. There’s no going back for them. They’ll be some lil white slave hoes to sum Muslim masters, talking about how great it all is 40 years from now. Fuck em. We rebelled from their lame culture for a reason.[/quote]

As did we,have you seen the film Michael Collins?It’s about the Irish war of independence.Not sure if it was released in the states.Liam Neeson and Julia Roberts(who actually does a decent Irish accent)are in it.It’s worth a look!I’d love to have grown up in that time.

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[quote]wigsa wrote:

[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Give it up, Britain just ultimate pussy nation. There’s no going back for them. They’ll be some lil white slave hoes to sum Muslim masters, talking about how great it all is 40 years from now. Fuck em. We rebelled from their lame culture for a reason.[/quote]

As did we,have you seen the film Michael Collins?It’s about the Irish war of independence.Not sure if it was released in the states.Liam Neeson and Julia Roberts(who actually does a decent Irish accent)are in it.It’s worth a look!I’d love to have grown up in that time.[/quote]
I’ll check it out. I sympathize with the Irish. As much as all annoying crackers here rep that shit and discredit. Real Irish have been through genuine hardship and their rebellion from Britain should be respected.

That’s bullshit tho…that they had a Briton play an Irishmen. Almost as BS as Irish ppl speaking English as primary.

Go back to Gaelic steady, if you all did, I’d check it out…honest. Fuck a Master’s language, I live in the USA, and spend most of my time speaking Spanish with my peers.

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[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
Give it up, Britain just ultimate pussy nation. There’s no going back for them. They’ll be some lil white slave hoes to sum Muslim masters, talking about how great it all is 40 years from now. Fuck em. We rebelled from their lame culture for a reason.[/quote]

strong opinions! care to elaborate further.

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Jesus do people here base their ideas of liberalism around Brian in frikkin’ Family Guy?

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[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
That’s bullshit tho…that they had a Briton play an Irishmen. Almost as BS as Irish ppl speaking English as primary.

Go back to Gaelic steady, if you all did, I’d check it out…honest. Fuck a Master’s language, I live in the USA, and spend most of my time speaking Spanish with my peers.[/quote]

Liam Neeson is Irish man,and proud to be.He’s from Antrim.I agree with you with regard to the Gaelic,I loved studying Irish in school and hate the way that people here resent studying it(It’s compulsory,at least we have that much going for us,and unless you have an exemption you have to pass it to get in to college).

I don’t get what you said about crackers repping that shit??What do you mean?

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[quote]wigsa wrote:
Liam Neeson is Irish man,and proud to be.He’s from Antrim.I agree with you with regard to the Gaelic,I loved studying Irish in school and hate the way that people here resent studying it(It’s compulsory,at least we have that much going for us,and unless you have an exemption you have to pass it to get in to college).[/quote]
I’m sorry, I jumped the gun. I guess he is Irish. Ya, I know what you mean, it’s like here in the US. There all these ‘Latinos’ and/or ‘Hispanics’ who don’t even speak Spanish, don’t try to learn it, yet still think they represent our culture. Worst, is when they are dark skinned or real spic looking, and then try to talk down to a white beaner like me, like we’re not really Hispanic, because we’re white. I’m not going to jump on this soap box for the 40th time, but Moctezuma = Aztec, Ceaser = Latin, I look like Ceaser, therefore I am Latin. They look like Moctezuma, they are Aztec. lol… sorry, I always get on this topic.

Anyways, there is no culture without language. It is essential for a person of an ethnic group to be proficient in their language to remain a part of it. My .02 cents.

I’m actually Russian descent from Latin America, but don’t speak Russian, so therefore, consider myself outside that culture. Same goes for every one in any group.

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I don’t get what you said about crackers repping that shit??What do you mean?[/quote]

In the USA, all white people get in these silly ass diatribes about like, I’m 1/16th Irish, 2/3 portogulish (ya i know…thats how THEY say it),and the rest is native american…like anyone even cares.

I guess that’s somewhat interesting and acceptable. But there are even more annoying crackas who are like.

I AM IRISH, GO IRELAND, LET ME SEND MONEY TO THE IRA…They have like a 1/4 Irish blood, or maybe less or more, never lived there, been in USA for like 10 generations, aren’t Catholic (go to Church prolly in some basement or trailerhome lol) and basically just overexagerrate their perceived Irishness…because they are empty and vapid inside. Anyways, they do silly shit like bake beer bread just tell everyone, and learn some phrases in Gaelic to show their friends. They even do dumb shit like send their kids to Irish dance classes ran by some other delusional whitey.

I’m not bombing Ireland, tho. You guys have a real culture for sure. At the same time, there are these people, who well, discredit it here with their delusional games.

There are equivalents for Italians, and Greeks. Oddly, Poles, and German descended people never really act like that in my experience. anyways…

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There was me thinking that the point of the video was to highlight an opinion on climate change…How silly of me. It was clearly just a Trojan horse to say how fucked the UK is.

I completely agree with Griffin’s opinion on climate change.

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At least he has the balls to say what A LOT of people are thinking (I’m not talking about the racism stuff here, before I get insults thrown at me from every direction).

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[quote]Captain Qwark wrote:
At least he has the balls to say what A LOT of people are thinking (I’m not talking about the racism stuff here, before I get insults thrown at me from every direction).

Why would anyone throw insults? Western culture, especially British culture, is far superior to anything else the world can come up with.

That’s WHY Muslims and many others flee to Britain. If they wanted insanity, they could stay in their own countries or emigrate to much more ‘enlightened’ lands, like Zimbabwe, north Korea, China, Vietnam, and so forth.

Let’s admit it: Anglo-Saxons (mixed in with some Danes, the Danelaw and so forth) is the beacon for the rest of the world to follow.

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HeadHunter, you’re a bit late to the party. The Western/Anglo-Saxon culture has been under attack by its enemies, both internal and external, for the better part of a century if not longer. WW2 was the final nail in the coffin. Nearly everything wrong with the West today can be directly attributed to the allied victory. What that victory brought about was the ultimate triumph of Jewish socialism/liberalism which has now spread to every corner of the world. Conservatism is on its last legs from a demographic standpoint. The ideology is being sustained almost entirely by white Christian males who reside in rural parts of the United States. It is dead in Europe and has never existed in Asia or South America.

The biggest problem confronting the West is a near-total lack of racial awareness or national identity among white Europeans and their descendants. Educated, cosmopolitan whites today are literally more concerned about the demographic status of exotic species of birds than their own kinsmen. This is a perverse state of affairs and it certainly did not come about by accident.

While the British culture is indeed to be admired for its immense contributions to Western civilization, one should not overlook the fundamental flaws within that culture which are now paving the way for its destruction. The first rule of life is self-survival and any culture which cannot sustain itself must ultimately be considered a failure.

The British chose the wrong side in WW2 and Europe has been paying for that mistake ever since.

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[quote]3IdSpetsnaz wrote:
I AM IRISH, GO IRELAND, LET ME SEND MONEY TO THE IRA…They have like a 1/4 Irish blood, or maybe less or more, never lived there, been in USA for like 10 generations, aren’t Catholic (go to Church prolly in some basement or trailerhome lol) and basically just overexagerrate their perceived Irishness…because they are empty and vapid inside. Anyways, they do silly shit like bake beer bread just tell everyone, and learn some phrases in Gaelic to show their friends. They even do dumb shit like send their kids to Irish dance classes ran by some other delusional whitey.
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Well,to be fair,I don’t think it’s fair to give out about them sending their kids to Irish dancing classes.I mean,that shows that they have an interest in their culture and are proud to have their kids involved with it.Therefore,I don’t mind that.Now,regarding beerbread,are you serious?What the fuck is beerbread?If there are people over there claiming that beerbread is an Irish thing then I would love to see what kind of retards they are,I have never,ever heard of beerbread,ever.