Nice Guys Finish Last

ShORT DAVE!!!

SHIT! THAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM. It almost is like a LOOK AT ME SIGN OF DESPERATION! FUCK! The thing is, I havent got attention from girls ever, and its almost a visceral response the whole LOOK AT ME THING! DAMN IT! DAVE!

Maybe I do need to be more serious. More thought provoking and reclusive. More dark and dastardly! Shit.

Maybe I just need to lose 20 more lbs and get a six pac? I think that might be it. Haha.

Maybe I need to shave my back, shoulders, chest and ears, as the hair protrudes out of my shirt while doing dead lifts. Hair sticking out of your shirt and ears, and a sweating grimacey face, whats NOT TO LOVE PEOPLE!??!?!?!

Nothing wrong with being a ‘buddy’ to girls. Don’t expect that just because you can chat up the girls they will all be inclined to sleep with you. Play the numbers game and you’ll be fine.

Being the comedian doesn’t get you that far… no matter how ditzy a girl may be, they almost inevitably always want someone who can be serious. You can have a good time, but how can you have a relationship with someone who thinks everything is a joke?

if thats the case, then im fucked…

My girlfriend and I have been together for more than 2 1/2 years, and she’s always telling me what an asshole I am. :slight_smile:

NateDogg
Thanks for making me chuckle on this fine Thursday morning!

DeterminedNate:

Shorts and SexyJ are absolutely correct.
Funny = awesome
Too much funny = tiresome

Funny all the time reeks of insecurity. Men who are constantly busy being funny are not paying enough attention to me. Which means that when the opportune moment to get physical presents itself you are to occupied with your own hilarity to take it.

Also, if I am trying to have a conversation with someone, ESPECIALLY someone I may be interested in and he turns everything I say into a joke, I will assume that he is:
A. Utterly insincere
B. Not interested
Either way, I won’t waste too much time because as much as I enjoy wit, wit by itself will not sustain any kind of relevant interaction. It is fine if you think everything is a joke, but you don’t always have to let everyone know you think it is a joke.

Just my personal observations here, but the funny all the time guy never shuts up. Which means he’s never really listening. Which means he never really knows if someone is throwing him some vibe or not.

So in a nutshell, settle down, shut yer piehole, pay attention, get laid. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Elk, NateDiggety:

I have been with my BF for three years and he is the biggest asshole I know! :slight_smile:

Thanks Sabrina. Hmm, yeah i guess i can tone down my funniness but i wouldnt say that im funny to the point of exhaustion, or funny to the point of everything being a complete joke to me. If you didnt know me, you would think im too serious, but maybe if you did know me I could be a little too funny. Im gonna move on to assholity now. Thanks

[quote]DeterminedNate wrote:
Maybe I need to shave my back, shoulders, chest and ears, as the hair protrudes out of my shirt while doing dead lifts. Hair sticking out of your shirt and ears, and a sweating grimacey face, whats NOT TO LOVE PEOPLE!??!?!?![/quote]

Dude, You’re Ron Jeremy, aren’t you?

Beowulf-

ahhahahahaha, youre a genius dude, that was hilarious.

if you guys saw me, you would think “that guy should be able to get laid really easily” im a handsome guy, i just think i need to lose a few more lbs maybe.

Don’t be funny. trying to be funny yields just that, making you look like you are trying to be funny. Be clever. Don’t be lazy. Three dates, put out or get out, never too accessible. Sort quick

[quote]SHIT! THAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM. It almost is like a LOOK AT ME SIGN OF DESPERATION! FUCK! The thing is, I havent got attention from girls ever, and its almost a visceral response the whole LOOK AT ME THING! DAMN IT! DAVE!

Maybe I do need to be more serious. More thought provoking and reclusive. More dark and dastardly! Shit.[/quote]

Could help. Just don`t overdo it.

Slightly off-topic. A guy I know is a living, seducing machine. I`ll call him Dude. A couple of his secrets:

  • Dude appeals to a womans sense of how she feels shes worth, not what she really is. Even if she`s 30 pounds overweight, our dude will have no problem telling her how beautiful and sexy she is. The uglier the chick, the better this works. And he says it sincerely – I do not know if he truly feels it, but women do believe the Dude.

(The Dude understood at a young age that mirroring Ego is that way to start. It wont land you in the bed every time, but youll make a damn good first impression, and gossip about him could even down the road help him to get laid by some other friend of the woman he`s talking to.)

  • Dudes got a good radar for closing` signals. And when an offer comes, he never jokes. For example, when a woman will hint to a sexual double meaning, our Dude will change his demeanour to sexually-confident-manly-comfortable-NO-JOKES-HERE-we-could-do-magic-together style.

(Makes sense in a way. Would you crack a joke when passionately making love to your girlfriend, in the heat of the moment? No, of course. And thats exactly what Dude does. He gives the woman a glimpse of what she can expect of his reaction in the lovemaking department when she probes` his reaction through talking.)

  • Behaviorially speaking, the Dude acts like a Soap Opera Guy. He sells the sizzle first, not the steak. Hell always charm women first (hook em), will always pass for a gentleman FIRST, and when the time comes, will let out a manly/aggressive reaction when appropriate. Dude never scores when he does the opposite.

Just my 2 cents.

(Makes sense in a way. Would you crack a joke when passionately making love to your girlfriend, in the heat of the moment?)…like pull my finger? This is bad?

-So Dan C, are you emulating Dude?

-DeterminedNate: I’ve worked on my relationship game a LOT recently, and still am, BIG-TIME. Some good advice here:

-You just can’t care 2 much about. you can’t care what she thinks of you. You can’t care that she never answers her phone or doesn’t return your call or flakes on a date.

-Its all a numbers game, it really is.

My advice:
You have to come up with some affirmations re: women, and say them to yourself multiple x a day. THis method works for anything you want to change in life.

Some that I use: “I am calm and relaxed when talking to women. They sense the dynamic power that is in me and want me/are intrigued by me/are turned on by me”, etc.

“I know WHAT to say, HOW to say it, and WHEN to say it in every situation.”
This one actually applies to all areas in life.

“I live in a world of sexual abundance. I hit on women every day. I hit on at least (insert #) wome a week.”

Get the point?

Remember when you are nice but not confident or ballsy or strong, you come off as a wussy. you should NEVER try to change yourself and/or suppress yourself to impress a woman,in fact: never try to be everything to everyone in general.

Trust me , It DOESN"T WORK! Only when you stand up for yourself or make your voice heard do people respect you. The most popular guys are never the nice ones who kiss everybody’s ass, they’re the confident, self-assured ones. That is what makes you “cool” and attractive.
If a girl is acting immature or like a bitch, call her on it! Don’t put up with it. Never be afraid to walk away from a girl who’s acting in a way you don’t like. They’ll respect you more for not putting up with them.

Oh, and 1 more thing: teasing is a good way to flirt, for many reasons. Read David DeAngelo for more information on this. 1 rule of thumb: always turn things around on her. If there are awkward pauses in the conversation, blame it on HER. “This never happens with other women. You’re not a really good conversationalist are you?”

Or blame something, ANYTHING on her. “its raining- it only started when you walked by” or “The bus is late. This never happens when you’re not around.”

Say these things in a FUNNY way, so that you don’t come across as rude. So, you can still be funny, just not in a “I need to impress you” kind of way.

Remember:

“If you say yes to everything and everyone it’s as if you don’t exist”

Be YOURSELF, and be A MAN!

This is not the place to get advice about women. Go to the experts, the ones who realize that women don’t “want” certain things in a guy, but they are just naturally attracted to certain qualities whether or not she knows or will admit it. Go to www.fastseduction.com, or www.sosuave.com/vBulletin. It does not do well to try and explain this subject with one sentence philosophical lines. Women is a numbers game, sure, IF you don’t know what you’re doing. It takes practice, years of practice, but you CAN learn how to get women.