NFL Off-Season 2013

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]redstar144 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
It all started with Ryan. I pretty much agree with what you are saying Red, if Ryan goes so will be the media cock gobbling. Before this the Jets weren’t really spoke of much unless they were winning.

To me its the people that loathe them that make the most noise. This thread is a microcosm of it, you have the guy with the Jerry Garcia avi, forever taking shots, Chillain, DB from time to time, a couple of new guys that come in for the same reason. I assume you are talking about me being the only consistent posting Jet fan, and as you will see I have not gone out of my way to talk shit, only defend my shit team.

It is kind of like Howard Stern back in the day, he was so popular because people who loved him listened…but you know the group that listened to him more? Well it was the people that hated him…much like my team. [/quote]

Ironically you probably are not the person who instigates the majority of Jets conversations and tend to be one of the more sensible voices when they do come up! Anyway hopefully this season both or our teams get people talking about them for the right reason for a change.[/quote]

Im getting my Mike Devito Chiefs Jersey this year!
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Nice! To my shame I must admit the only Chiefs jersey I have ever owned is a Larry Johnson jersey. They aren’t exactly common over here! Throw up a pic when you get that jersey if you don’t mind!

I think its awesome that your so knowledgeable about the NFL and not from the states.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I think its awesome that your so knowledgeable about the NFL and not from the states. [/quote]

Thanks man, what can I say its a hell of a game and I am pretty addicted to it. My knowledge about O-line and D-line play and the X&Os aspect of the game is still lacking unfortunately, I think this stems from having never played the game. What knowledge I do have comes from watching religiously over the last 6 years, reading NFL.com, SI and PFF everyday. Interacting with the knowledgeable members here, in particular yourself, Derek and WestCoast when he was around has been a massive help in gaining better understanding of the game.

[quote]redstar144 wrote:
I have never in any other sport come across such a polarizing average team as the Jets. People get really worked up about them and tend to either love em or hate em, very little middle ground. Usually this level of interest and dislike is reserved for top tier teams like the Pats or Man Utd. The Giants who have had far more success recently never really get talked about here so its not just because they are an NY team. We only have one Jets fan who posts regularly. Its not just here either all the media give them excessive air time. I just don’t get the obsession with them. Average team with a below average QB who doesn’t really do anything too heinous to deserve all the stick he gets.[/quote]

Maybe it’s me then Red?

Though much like Matty, I’ve never shit on anyone’s team.

EDIT- Maybe the Patz get a shit kickin’ time to time from me.

[quote]print wrote:

[quote]redstar144 wrote:
I have never in any other sport come across such a polarizing average team as the Jets. People get really worked up about them and tend to either love em or hate em, very little middle ground. Usually this level of interest and dislike is reserved for top tier teams like the Pats or Man Utd. The Giants who have had far more success recently never really get talked about here so its not just because they are an NY team. We only have one Jets fan who posts regularly. Its not just here either all the media give them excessive air time. I just don’t get the obsession with them. Average team with a below average QB who doesn’t really do anything too heinous to deserve all the stick he gets.[/quote]

Maybe it’s me then Red?

Though much like Matty, I’ve never shit on anyone’s team.

EDIT- Maybe the Patz get a shit kickin’ time to time from me.[/quote]

No I wasn’t accusing said Jet fan, in this case Matty, of being a shit stirrer or incessantly ranting about his team. I was saying that it was odd that the Jets are an almost constant topic of conversation when there is only one Jets fan who regularly posts these days.

[quote]redstar144 wrote:

[quote]print wrote:

[quote]redstar144 wrote:
I have never in any other sport come across such a polarizing average team as the Jets. People get really worked up about them and tend to either love em or hate em, very little middle ground. Usually this level of interest and dislike is reserved for top tier teams like the Pats or Man Utd. The Giants who have had far more success recently never really get talked about here so its not just because they are an NY team. We only have one Jets fan who posts regularly. Its not just here either all the media give them excessive air time. I just don’t get the obsession with them. Average team with a below average QB who doesn’t really do anything too heinous to deserve all the stick he gets.[/quote]

Maybe it’s me then Red?

Though much like Matty, I’ve never shit on anyone’s team.

EDIT- Maybe the Patz get a shit kickin’ time to time from me.[/quote]

No I wasn’t accusing said Jet fan, in this case Matty, of being a shit stirrer or incessantly ranting about his team. I was saying that it was odd that the Jets are an almost constant topic of conversation when there is only one Jets fan who regularly posts these days.[/quote]

I quit posting long ago because you just can’t have a civil thread in here anymore. & I do remember you being a HUGE Chiefs fan. Believe we had a discussion about D. Thomas. If I recall correctly.

[quote]print wrote:

[quote]redstar144 wrote:

[quote]print wrote:

[quote]redstar144 wrote:
I have never in any other sport come across such a polarizing average team as the Jets. People get really worked up about them and tend to either love em or hate em, very little middle ground. Usually this level of interest and dislike is reserved for top tier teams like the Pats or Man Utd. The Giants who have had far more success recently never really get talked about here so its not just because they are an NY team. We only have one Jets fan who posts regularly. Its not just here either all the media give them excessive air time. I just don’t get the obsession with them. Average team with a below average QB who doesn’t really do anything too heinous to deserve all the stick he gets.[/quote]

Maybe it’s me then Red?

Though much like Matty, I’ve never shit on anyone’s team.

EDIT- Maybe the Patz get a shit kickin’ time to time from me.[/quote]

No I wasn’t accusing said Jet fan, in this case Matty, of being a shit stirrer or incessantly ranting about his team. I was saying that it was odd that the Jets are an almost constant topic of conversation when there is only one Jets fan who regularly posts these days.[/quote]

I quit posting long ago because you just can’t have a civil thread in here anymore. & I do remember you being a HUGE Chiefs fan. Believe we had a discussion about D. Thomas. If I recall correctly.[/quote]

For my sins I am still a Chiefs fan and am still waiting with great anticipation for the promised land of back to back winning seasons! Ya I remember that, it was about the time the NFL released their list of the greatest players of all time. This thread is one of the last bastions of civility here but recently even here has had some shit being slung.

Print fucking abandoned me.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Print fucking abandoned me.[/quote]

Not even if you tried to lose me. I stalk you. You know this!

WOW. Marshawn Lynch could be facing a two-game suspension for a DUI arrest last summer. What a break for the Niners if that happens. They play Seattle in Seattle in Week 2 and it looks like, unless Lynch is found innocent or the case is thrown out entirely, he WILL be suspended for two games, per league rules.

[quote]print wrote:
Though much like Matty, I’ve never shit on anyone’s team. [/quote]

Alrighty then, you get credit for taking the high road here.

But I’ve gotta ask, how is this even possible?? (ie. all your NFL-fan friends can’t all be NYJ fans, can they?)

[quote]chillain wrote:

But I’ve gotta ask, how is this even possible?? (ie. all your NFL-fan friends can’t all be NYJ fans, can they?)

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Talkin’ shit & being an asshole are 2 very different things.

[quote]redstar144 wrote:
Just in case there wasn’t enough Tebow talk already, may I present your official Tim Tebow tracker! Scott Hanson is camped outside his house as we speak.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000165845/article/tim-tebow-tracker-where-will-he-play-in-2013[/quote]

uggg. I’d like to say the Skins have had enough drama in the past few years to not make a move on someone like Tebow. I still think the Jags should be in the hunt and I’m surprised the owner isn’t on board just for the uptick in sales ahha. Maybe someone is finally not just chasing the money?

DB, you think the 49ers will have a worse or better record this season?

Jacksonville picked up Aaron Rodgers brother, Jordan Rodgers. I wonder if we will see the next Peyton/Eli duo. I doubt it but i will be hoping.

I think 9ers will have a 12 win season, possibly 13 due to a split with Seahaws, loss to GB, and an obvious loss to the Washington Fucking Redskins.

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
DB, you think the 49ers will have a worse or better record this season?

Jacksonville picked up Aaron Rodgers brother, Jordan Rodgers. I wonder if we will see the next Peyton/Eli duo. I doubt it but i will be hoping.[/quote]

I think they’ll have a better record. Their schedule is actually easier this year than it was last year and I think they’ll benefit from a deeper defensive line and Kaepernick under center for the whole year.

West Coast teams typically struggle when playing on the road and at what would be 10am on the West Coast. The Niners only have two games on the road that start at 10am PST. One in Tampa Bay, which is probably the easiest of the 10am games they’ve played recently (other than when they annihilated the Jets early last year) and the other one is against Jacksonville. But the Jacksonville game is in London and they have a bye the following week. That should be a cakewalk for them.

Other than that, they really only have three or four truly tough road games this year: at NO, at Seattle (which could be a lot less tough if Lynch is out), at St. Louis (I’m not sure if this is really that tough of a game for them, last year notwithstanding. I’m not sold on the Rams until Bradford proves he’s the real deal), and at Washington in a primetime game.

The toughest non-divisional foes they face this year are: Houston, Green Bay, Indianapolis and Atlanta. And they get all four of them at the 'Stick.

For a team in the toughest division in the league and coming off a Super Bowl appearance, this is about as easy a schedule as they could expect. I think they’ll go 13-3, maybe even 14-2. This is assuming that Eric Reid can handle the free safety position and Donte Whitner doesn’t completely collapse at strong safety like he did in the Super Bowl. If they get good play in the secondary and along the defensive line, stay relatively healthy and catch a break or two, I don’t see why they can’t potentially run the table or finish 15-1.

I’m serious about that. All signs are that Lynch will be out in Week 2 when they travel to Seattle, which will be their toughest game of the year. If they pull that out, I really don’t see anyone on the schedule who is a big threat to them at all. They’ve already shown they can handle Green Bay, Indy and Houston are fucking frauds who will be exposed in Candlestick, St. Louis just played the games of their lives last year against the Niners and still only managed a tie and a 3-pt win, Atlanta coming to Candlestick in the end of December could really ugly for a prototypically soft dome team, the Niners already proved they can go into the SuperDome and beat NO, even when they didn’t really play all that well, and I don’t think the Jaguars, Titans, Panthers, Cardinals, Buccaneers or even the Redskins are much of a match for them. I thought that Washington played a little over their heads at times last year and I expect them to regress.

The Niners faced quite a bit of adversity last year and still managed to make it to the Super Bowl. They had a big QB controversy midseason, they suffered injuries to three key players on offense, they got walloped in Seattle, they didn’t really click on offense for most of the year and they still were the best team in the NFC. If things go better for them from an adversity standpoint the rest of the league better watch out.

On top of that, they had arguably the best draft of any team in the NFL last week. I don’t expect Lattimore to play, but Carradine is a big addition to their defensive line, Vance MacDonald has the makings of another Gronkowski-type TE, their WR, Quinton Patton, has a really good shot at stepping right in as their 3rd WR behind Crabtree and Boldin, and they added much-needed depth with Lemonier rushing off the edge with legit 4.5 speed and a versatile 300lber in Quinton Dial. The most physically-talented team in the league just got even more talented.

So, I’d say 13-3 with the serious potential to go 15-1.

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I think 9ers will have a 12 win season, possibly 13 due to a split with Seahaws, loss to GB, and an obvious loss to the Washington Fucking Redskins.[/quote]

Loss to Green Bay? What, you think Eddie Lacy is for real? The guy is already starting to wear down and he hasn’t even played a snap in the NFL. The Niners handled them in Green Bay and destroyed them in SF and they get them in SF to start the year. They’ve been preparing all offseason for the read option and the Niners’ geniuses in Harbaugh and Greg Roman will probably open the season with an entirely new look for them that they won’t be able to handle. Not only will the Niners win, they’ll win big.

And for your avatar’s sake, you better hope they lose in Washington. If Lynch is out when they play in Seattle in Week 2 I think they’ll stand an excellent chance in that game. Wilson is good, but we’ll see what he does when the defense can just tee off and key in specifically on him and only him.

I also think Seattle is a team that could regress a bit due to a tougher schedule. They went 8-0 at home last year, so they can only go down from there. And as good as they were last year, they still went 3-5 on the road. And now they have an even tougher road schedule with games in Houston, Indy, Atlanta and NY against the Giants. And they come to Candlestick late in the year, when it’s much tougher to play there than in the early autumn. I think they’ll probably finish something like 10-6 or 9-7, with two losses to SF, a loss to Atlanta, NY, Houston, maybe in St. Louis or to the Saints and possibly even to the Panthers in Carolina to start the year.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I think 9ers will have a 12 win season, possibly 13 due to a split with Seahaws, loss to GB, and an obvious loss to the Washington Fucking Redskins.[/quote]

Loss to Green Bay? What, you think Eddie Lacy is for real? The guy is already starting to wear down and he hasn’t even played a snap in the NFL. The Niners handled them in Green Bay and destroyed them in SF and they get them in SF to start the year. They’ve been preparing all offseason for the read option and the Niners’ geniuses in Harbaugh and Greg Roman will probably open the season with an entirely new look for them that they won’t be able to handle. Not only will the Niners win, they’ll win big.

And for your avatar’s sake, you better hope they lose in Washington. If Lynch is out when they play in Seattle in Week 2 I think they’ll stand an excellent chance in that game. Wilson is good, but we’ll see what he does when the defense can just tee off and key in specifically on him and only him.

I also think Seattle is a team that could regress a bit due to a tougher schedule. They went 8-0 at home last year, so they can only go down from there. And as good as they were last year, they still went 3-5 on the road. And now they have an even tougher road schedule with games in Houston, Indy, Atlanta and NY against the Giants. And they come to Candlestick late in the year, when it’s much tougher to play there than in the early autumn. I think they’ll probably finish something like 10-6 or 9-7, with two losses to SF, a loss to Atlanta, NY, Houston, maybe in St. Louis or to the Saints and possibly even to the Panthers in Carolina to start the year.[/quote]

Man, I already told you I’ve got SF projected in the SB again.

I think your love of Harbaugh has you blinded to the fact that McCarthy isn’t stupid either and they have one of the best QBs in the league who can get that team moving and eat up some clock. I can’t imagine that the defense doesn’t have at least some idea of how to handle Kaep and Co so I just think it will be a winnable game for GB and I think they take it. I’m giving SEA a split decision due to how competitive they are at home (who knows what the RB situation will be like and if they can still produce w/o Lynch). And the RG3 is gonna PIIKB. Skins are notorious for playing up or down to their opponents level so I am just saying we win b/c I’m a fan.

I’m using about 0% facts to support my argument so this is all pure speculation. And don’t worry about my damn avatar. It’s the only way people recognize me on here now and I don’t anticipate that changing in the future.

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I think 9ers will have a 12 win season, possibly 13 due to a split with Seahaws, loss to GB, and an obvious loss to the Washington Fucking Redskins.[/quote]

Loss to Green Bay? What, you think Eddie Lacy is for real? The guy is already starting to wear down and he hasn’t even played a snap in the NFL. The Niners handled them in Green Bay and destroyed them in SF and they get them in SF to start the year. They’ve been preparing all offseason for the read option and the Niners’ geniuses in Harbaugh and Greg Roman will probably open the season with an entirely new look for them that they won’t be able to handle. Not only will the Niners win, they’ll win big.

And for your avatar’s sake, you better hope they lose in Washington. If Lynch is out when they play in Seattle in Week 2 I think they’ll stand an excellent chance in that game. Wilson is good, but we’ll see what he does when the defense can just tee off and key in specifically on him and only him.

I also think Seattle is a team that could regress a bit due to a tougher schedule. They went 8-0 at home last year, so they can only go down from there. And as good as they were last year, they still went 3-5 on the road. And now they have an even tougher road schedule with games in Houston, Indy, Atlanta and NY against the Giants. And they come to Candlestick late in the year, when it’s much tougher to play there than in the early autumn. I think they’ll probably finish something like 10-6 or 9-7, with two losses to SF, a loss to Atlanta, NY, Houston, maybe in St. Louis or to the Saints and possibly even to the Panthers in Carolina to start the year.[/quote]

Man, I already told you I’ve got SF projected in the SB again.

I think your love of Harbaugh has you blinded to the fact that McCarthy isn’t stupid either and they have one of the best QBs in the league who can get that team moving and eat up some clock. I can’t imagine that the defense doesn’t have at least some idea of how to handle Kaep and Co so I just think it will be a winnable game for GB and I think they take it. I’m giving SEA a split decision due to how competitive they are at home (who knows what the RB situation will be like and if they can still produce w/o Lynch). And the RG3 is gonna PIIKB. Skins are notorious for playing up or down to their opponents level so I am just saying we win b/c I’m a fan.

I’m using about 0% facts to support my argument so this is all pure speculation. And don’t worry about my damn avatar. It’s the only way people recognize me on here now and I don’t anticipate that changing in the future.[/quote]

Wait, don’t we have an avatar bet on the Washington game?

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I think 9ers will have a 12 win season, possibly 13 due to a split with Seahaws, loss to GB, and an obvious loss to the Washington Fucking Redskins.[/quote]

Loss to Green Bay? What, you think Eddie Lacy is for real? The guy is already starting to wear down and he hasn’t even played a snap in the NFL. The Niners handled them in Green Bay and destroyed them in SF and they get them in SF to start the year. They’ve been preparing all offseason for the read option and the Niners’ geniuses in Harbaugh and Greg Roman will probably open the season with an entirely new look for them that they won’t be able to handle. Not only will the Niners win, they’ll win big.

And for your avatar’s sake, you better hope they lose in Washington. If Lynch is out when they play in Seattle in Week 2 I think they’ll stand an excellent chance in that game. Wilson is good, but we’ll see what he does when the defense can just tee off and key in specifically on him and only him.

I also think Seattle is a team that could regress a bit due to a tougher schedule. They went 8-0 at home last year, so they can only go down from there. And as good as they were last year, they still went 3-5 on the road. And now they have an even tougher road schedule with games in Houston, Indy, Atlanta and NY against the Giants. And they come to Candlestick late in the year, when it’s much tougher to play there than in the early autumn. I think they’ll probably finish something like 10-6 or 9-7, with two losses to SF, a loss to Atlanta, NY, Houston, maybe in St. Louis or to the Saints and possibly even to the Panthers in Carolina to start the year.[/quote]

Man, I already told you I’ve got SF projected in the SB again.

I think your love of Harbaugh has you blinded to the fact that McCarthy isn’t stupid either and they have one of the best QBs in the league who can get that team moving and eat up some clock. I can’t imagine that the defense doesn’t have at least some idea of how to handle Kaep and Co so I just think it will be a winnable game for GB and I think they take it. I’m giving SEA a split decision due to how competitive they are at home (who knows what the RB situation will be like and if they can still produce w/o Lynch). And the RG3 is gonna PIIKB. Skins are notorious for playing up or down to their opponents level so I am just saying we win b/c I’m a fan.

I’m using about 0% facts to support my argument so this is all pure speculation. And don’t worry about my damn avatar. It’s the only way people recognize me on here now and I don’t anticipate that changing in the future.[/quote]

Wait, don’t we have an avatar bet on the Washington game?[/quote]

Yes. But I was saying I don’t anticipate having to change my avatar