[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Pat serious question.
If Tebow did NOT have the religious hype would he even be talked about? I mean Vince Young has a winning record and did good for one season in Tenn, but he is dumb as a stump and out of the league.
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Talked about, sure but just like anybody else. His religious convictions have made him a lightning rod and there are a whole bunch of people who want him to fail based on what he stands for not as a player. If he were queer he’d be celebrated as a hero and personal attacks would be labeled as homophobia. But he’d at least be given a chance to fail or succeed as his merits as a player.
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NO matter how you shake it, buff it or spin it, Tebow is NOT a NFL QB. He has horrible delivery with long stride and he is average speed at best. Period. [/quote]
Well I disagree. I don’t think his skill set defines him as any kind of elite player, but he really hasn’t been given much of a chance.
As a starter he has a winning record and he can make plays. His affect is certainly unconventional, but he has to be given a fair shake with out all the bullshit. The guy can play football. There have been a lot of guys who don’t fit the mold, but have succeeded when given the chance. Brady is too skinny and slow, Roethlisberger is a big slow oaf with an unconventional throwing style, Wilson is to short, Favre was a dumb womanizing drunk, Shaub was the quintessential terminal backup, etc. There are a lot of dudes, who didn’t have the standard QB measurables that were able to succeed.
I think Tebow needs to be given a chance in the right circumstance and lat him fail or succeed on his merits as a football player alone. He has succeeded at the NFL level. If he gets the right chance with the right situation and fucks it up, then it’s on him. So far everybody has talked him up and then shit on him when it counts. It’s tough to succeed when your just trying to get respect simply as a human being much less a pro-football player.[/quote]
He is a media circus, my point was if he was NOT, meaning if he was just Tebow the buff, left handed, slow white boy QB. Dude would have been bounced. Because in practice he is one hopping an out route and cant get to a third read cause he wants to run around the corner or jump up and throw to a TE. He was a great college football player. He small amount of success for Denver was due to no Defense Coordinator had a game plan for him. Any time he put on the field for the Jets was nothing because people know what he is all about now. [/quote]
Peter King believes he should go to either SF or GB, learn from the top QB coaches and QBs in the game, and develop. No way either team would touch him. Still, I dont see much benefit for him. He isnt a NFl QB. And Im not even sure he could succeed as a TE or FB. [/quote]
Niners already said they have no interest in him at all. Besides, they already drafted a guy this year to be their third QB with the understanding that he would probably be active on game days only if he could also play on special teams coverage units, maybe return some kicks/punts and possibly RB and/or WR as well. I think his name is BJ Daniels out of South Florida or something like that. Super athletic, runs fast, about the same size and build as Russell Wilson.
Tebow is basically a third-string QB who can’t or won’t play anything else. Unless he accepts that his ticket to staying in the NFL is being willing to play any position on the field, which would mean he would have to lose about 30 lbs and gain more speed and agility, he’s done.
