NFL 2012/2013 Part 3

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
But Pat, then you probably looked down over at the Niners sidelines to see how far into their shells the FIVE TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO FORTY-NINERS were shrinking and you saw this guy. That’s when you realized that this was no ordinary team, not some fucking sad-sack, piece of shit team from a fucking loser sports town like Atlanta the little birds you cheer for were playing. Oh no, this was a team with CLASS and HISTORY and EXCELLENCE and motherfucking BALLS OF STEEL standing over there on the visitors’ sideline.

Right about then you realized your wife was right and maybe you should have put on that pair of Depends after all because you knew that the most dynamic player in the NFL with the best offensive line in football protecting him was about to start rifling some more passes downfield like the pure pocket-passer he proved he can be and you shit yourself just a little bit right then and there.

So when Gore ran in, untouched I might add, you couldn’t even sit down and cry into your beer like all the fans around you were because you didn’t want to smear your shit all over the inside of your ass cheeks and those faggy pink Falcons boxers your wife bought you last year in a failed attempt to cheer you up after they scored all of TWO points against the Giants last year.[/quote]

In all seriousness, congrats. It was a hard fought battle, and you won. So congrats on your win.[/quote]

I didn’t win anything. I just verged on suicide for the first quarter, frenzy in the second and then giddy anticipation the entire second half. Congratulate the 49ers, they’re the ones who won. I just watch from my couch or my seats at the 'Stick, where a record EIGHT NFC Championship Games have been hosted. Don’t worry though Pat. The Niners didn’t win the first time they hosted one either. Next year, buddy, next year.

And thanks for asking about my corn hole. It feels great You know what hurts though? My fucking cock. It’s all raw and chafed now and I feel dehydrated.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
But Pat, then you probably looked down over at the Niners sidelines to see how far into their shells the FIVE TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPION SAN FRANCISCO FORTY-NINERS were shrinking and you saw this guy. That’s when you realized that this was no ordinary team, not some fucking sad-sack, piece of shit team from a fucking loser sports town like Atlanta the little birds you cheer for were playing. Oh no, this was a team with CLASS and HISTORY and EXCELLENCE and motherfucking BALLS OF STEEL standing over there on the visitors’ sideline.

Right about then you realized your wife was right and maybe you should have put on that pair of Depends after all because you knew that the most dynamic player in the NFL with the best offensive line in football protecting him was about to start rifling some more passes downfield like the pure pocket-passer he proved he can be and you shit yourself just a little bit right then and there.

So when Gore ran in, untouched I might add, you couldn’t even sit down and cry into your beer like all the fans around you were because you didn’t want to smear your shit all over the inside of your ass cheeks and those faggy pink Falcons boxers your wife bought you last year in a failed attempt to cheer you up after they scored all of TWO points against the Giants last year.[/quote]

Kaepernick was not a factor in this game by the way. [/quote]

Not a factor? Were we watching the same game? How many times did Frank Gore gain 4-7 yard chunks because the defensive end was staying put watching Kaepernick? Gore was barely touched on his first touchdown run as a result of Kaepernick being “spied” and LaMichael James and Gore on his second TD run fucking waltzed in because of that.

Not only that, Kaepernick was consistently rifling the ball downfield for gains of 15+ yards on first and second down all day! You must be too hungover to recollect the game properly if you think he wasn’t a factor. The guy threw the team back into it after they stayed committed to the run early, even being down 17-0 . The heart of a champion! The heart of a champion and the fucking balls of a Brahma bull! That’s what Kaepernick HAS! You know who WAS a factor? Matty Ice!

Yeah, did you see him flinch and pull out too quickly when he saw an all-out blitz coming and he fumbled the shotgun snap? Did you? The fucking guy looks great when he’s got all the time in the world to throw, but when the pressure is coming he folds up like a metal chair at the end of an AA meeting.

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[quote]pat wrote:
Kaepernick was not a factor in this game by the way. [/quote]

This is an absolutely laughable statement.

He engineered all of th eTD drives.
His decision making in the passing game and on the read option was impeccable.
The threat of him running kept the Atl D on their heels and left wide open lanes for James and Gore.
And, I would argue, most importantly he didn’t make any bonehead mistakes like Matt Ryan did.

Again, to say Kap was not a factor is just not true.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]johnman18 wrote:
Hey DB I’m sorry brother my head has been in the clouds. Rough week. But all is looking good again. I forgot we made this bet I know I’m an idiot. How about I will rock the avatar you give me til my birthday on June 18th? Are you a hockey fan hahaha?[/quote]

What is hockey?

I gave you an avatar back on page 30-something in the previous NFL thread. Here it is again though. No worries. I see in your current avatar picture that you have a small child. Taking care of your kids always takes precedence over satisfying your blood debt to me.

You don’t have to use it until June though. Just for 30 days, unless you want to start using it on May 18th.[/quote]
Okay, at least I get to keep a straight avatar for a few months haha. And thanks but that’s my little brother even though I love him like he was my son. I guess I have to wait for the baseball season to start for my revenge. Or are you a basketball fan?

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This postseason makes receiving this ball that much better.

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[quote]FFMatt wrote:
This postseason makes receiving this ball that much better.[/quote]

Who gave you that? Was it a Christmas gift? You fucking bastard! My parents used to give me a signed photo of one of the players every year but they stopped when the team went in the shitter after Steve Young got knocked the fuck out and his career ended.

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I like this match up for a SuperBowl.

I don’t see a clear winner here, both are kind of loose cannons in their own way.

Fewer people are as entertaining as seeing Jim Harbaugh throw a shit fit.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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Nice! Brady is such a fucking punk bitch. And yes Gettinitdone, I would gladly say that to his face. Well within striking distance too. What a cheap motherfucker that guy is. That whole leg kick/slide thing yesterday was completely classless, waaaaaayy less class than I’ve displayed at any point in this thread, which is saying quite a bit.

And people can say whatever they want about the guy and what Spygate really was or whatever, but it doesn’t erase one very, very telling statistic. Pre-Spygate: something like 7 and 1 in the playoffs and 3 Super Bowls in 3 tries.
After Spygate: 5-5 in the playoffs and 0-2 in two Super Bowls. His own play pre- and post-Spygate has dropped off significantly as well in the postseason.

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Easy argument, if you completely ignore the 2007/2008 season where the Patriots, led by Brady, had the best regular season of any team in NFL history. Statistically, both Brady and the team had record setting years, putting shame to anything Joe Montana and your beloved 80s 49ers could ever dream to accomplish. That Patriots offence was unstoppable and the only reason they lost in the Superbowl was because of a fluke (if the Superbowl was a series the Patriots would have won). I still think that loss lingers in the minds of Brady, Belichick and all the other Pats that were with the team in '07.

Fact is Brady has been to 5 Superbowls in his career. Yes, he’s 0-2 since Spygate but when did 2 Superbowl appearances in 5 years become `not-good-enough?’ Oh, yeah, we’re talking about Brady and Belichick, everyone expects great things from them EVERY YEAR. How many teams and players in NFL HISTORY can you say that about?

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Easy argument, if you completely ignore the 2007/2008 season where the Patriots, led by Brady, had the best regular season of any team in NFL history. Statistically, both Brady and the team had record setting years, putting shame to anything Joe Montana and your beloved 80s 49ers could ever dream to accomplish. That Patriots offence was unstoppable and the only reason they lost in the Superbowl was because of a fluke (if the Superbowl was a series the Patriots would have won). I still think that loss lingers in the minds of Brady, Belichick and all the other Pats that were with the team in '07.

Fact is Brady has been to 5 Superbowls in his career. Yes, he’s 0-2 since Spygate but when did 2 Superbowl appearances in 5 years become `not-good-enough?’ Oh, yeah, we’re talking about Brady and Belichick, everyone expects great things from them EVERY YEAR. How many teams and players in NFL HISTORY can you say that about?

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You know what put to shame anything Brady has ever done? Montana’s performance in the Super Bowl after the '89 season pal. And guess what? 16-0 in the regular season and a loss in the Super Bowl still means he went 18-1 that season, the same record as Montana’s '84 squad. Except that Montana WON the Super Bowl that year and Brady didn’t. Last time I checked teams only cared about going undefeated in the postseason and Montana has done that four time and Brady only three times. When talking about the great ones, which Brady definitely is, the postseason is the ONLY thing that matters you fucking Kiwi.

What the fuck does someone in New Zealand know about football anyways? Did you even watch Montana play? I grew up on Montana.

And sure, Brady’s team was one spectacular play away from winning every game back in 2007, but you know what? I think that whole Spygate thing was the difference. That’s really all it takes to separate the winners from the losers in most postseason games: one fucking play, maybe two. That’s the difference between the greats and the almost-greats. One fucking play and the great ones have the ability to step up their game in the postseason knowing that everything might be riding on just one fucking play. And Spygate may very well be what gave the Patriots that one or two play advantage. Say whatever you want about Montana and his teams, but you can’t say that his teams were ever caught in an elaborate cheating scandal. Not even a rumor of it.

And in case you want further confirmation that Montana was the fucking man and Brady was great but a considerable notch or two below him, check out their regular season versus postseason passer ratings. Montana finished his career with a 92.3 passer rating, at the time the all-time record. His postseason passer rating? Agains the best of the best? 95.6, and in the Super Bowl it was 127. That’s right, he stepped up his game when the lights shined the brightest. In 1989 he had the greatest postseason of any QB ever with a rating in three games of 146.6.

Brady? He had a regular season rating of 96.6 through this season. In the postseason it’s only 87.4, and that doesn’t even take into account his embarrassing performance agains the Ravens this year, which would probably drop it down a little further. So as good as Brady has been he hasn’t been quite as good in the biggest games as he’s been in the regular season games. And last time I checked teams play to go 3-0 or 4-0 in the postseason, not 16-0 in the regular season. I can guarantee you that Brady wouldn’t rank that 16-0 season ahead of the three seasons he won a ring. No fucking way.

So fuck you, fuck Tom Brady and fuck the pink fucking pony he rode in on. Joe Montana is the greatest football player of all-time and I challenge you or anyone else to present a credible argument otherwise.

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I don’t give a fuck about that cowboy Joe Montana. I admit, I’ve only seen highlights. But that’s not the point – I don’t care if Montana is better than Brady, that stuff is mostly subjective anyway. Brady is in the conversation, which is good enough for me and reason enough for anyone on his back to actually back off. What I do care about is people trying to castrate the Patriots because they lost in the conference championships. Even you’ll admit the Patriots have been the gold standard in the NFL for the past 10 years.

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Off-topic DB but I’ll also admit I’m just a casual NFL fan, which means I don’t care about the intricacies of offensive play calling (i.e. the history and execution of the pistol formation) or defensive schemes. I don’t care about defensive ends (most), safeties or offensive linemen. I watch for guys like Cam Newton (aka Mr. Big Time and my favourite player), RG3, Mike Vick, Colin Kaepernick, Tom Brady, Joe Flacco, Wes Welker, Gronkowski, Graham, Vernon Davis and etc. On the defensive side, I want to see linebackers crushing O-lines and getting to the QB; dudes like Ray Lewis, Suh and J.J. Watt.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Satistically, both Brady and the team had record setting years, putting shame to anything Joe Montana and your beloved 80s 49ers could ever dream to accomplish.
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LOL
Except win the Super Bowl, which Montana did in '89 and which is the ONLY end goal that every team had that matters.

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[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
I don’t give a fuck about that cowboy Joe Montana. I admit, I’ve only seen highlights. But that’s not the point – I don’t care if Montana is better than Brady, that stuff is mostly subjective anyway. Brady is in the conversation, which is good enough for me and reason enough for anyone on his back to actually back off. What I do care about is people trying to castrate the Patriots because they lost in the conference championships. Even you’ll admit the Patriots have been the gold standard in the NFL for the past 10 years.
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No, there really hasn’t been a gold standard the last 10 years since there’s been something like six different champions in the last ten Super Bowls, counting the one coming up here. Nine or ten years ago Brady was the gold standard, yes. Is he the best QB in the game right now? I don’t know about that. They play to win the Big One and he hasn’t won the Big One in a long time.

But regardless, the Gold Standard of all-time is Joe Montana and he will be until a better big game player comes along and wins four or more Super Bowls. And you know what? I think we may very well be watching the next Big Thing in the NFL wearing the crimson and gold right now. That’s right. I think that Kaepernick has all the physical tools and all the mental toughness to eventually surpass Brady and Bart Starr and challenge Montana for the greatest QB of all-time. Those three are really the only three who belong in the conversation as far as I’m concerned, and Montana is still well ahead of Brady in that respect.

After those three, I think guys like Elway, Unitas and Otto Graham belong in the next tier, and then there’s everyone else.

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(Starting shit storm here)

-Brett Favre aught to be in the conversation as well DB, imo.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
(Starting shit storm here)

-Brett Favre aught to be in the conversation as well DB, imo. [/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Aikman for sure. But Favre? Come on.

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[quote]doogie wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
(Starting shit storm here)

-Brett Favre aught to be in the conversation as well DB, imo. [/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Aikman for sure. But Favre? Come on.[/quote]

Favre holds or is in the top 3-5 of every major statistical category. Where’s Aikman at?

When a QB sets a new record who’s record does he normally break?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
(Starting shit storm here)

-Brett Favre aught to be in the conversation as well DB, imo. [/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Aikman for sure. But Favre? Come on.[/quote]

Favre holds or is in the top 3-5 of every major statistical category. Where’s Aikman at?

When a QB sets a new record who’s record does he normally break? [/quote]

Yeah, but we’re talking big game QBs. Favre has too many screwups in the playoffs to be considered a great in that regard.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
(Starting shit storm here)

-Brett Favre aught to be in the conversation as well DB, imo. [/quote]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Aikman for sure. But Favre? Come on.[/quote]

Favre holds or is in the top 3-5 of every major statistical category. Where’s Aikman at?

When a QB sets a new record who’s record does he normally break? [/quote]

Yeah, but we’re talking big game QBs. Favre has too many screwups in the playoffs to be considered a great in that regard.[/quote]

I think that’s a valid point, but I don’t think you can just dismiss the guy because he only won the Super Bowl once. He does have some big time interceptions.