[quote]nomorewar wrote:
explain this bullshit call at 2:06… its physically impossible for David Akers to have been knocked out there. He was also “hit” way after the kick so attempt wasn’t even affected . Its ok to complain about the refs when its convenient. [/quote]
good point on that Akers FG
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
[quote]js252 wrote:
what was the controversy regarding the officiating crew prior to the game? I remember seeing articles on it
but didn’t care enough to read, after watching the game and how poorly officiated it was I’m wondering now
what all the hubbub was about. [/quote]
The NFl was trying to fix the game for ray lewis a retiring hated player over the 49ers a potential dynasty and exciting quarterback that can generate millions for the league? [/quote]
so was this crew like the all stars of the replacement refs? is ed “gunz” hocculi(sp) retired? or that one dude with the strict perfect form with his hand and arm gestures(always get a laugh with him)not available?
[quote]BeefEater wrote:
This would be true if Kap was only a running quarterback. From what I have seen he can throw the ball very well and will likely only improve this skill with more experience.
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Again, Kap may be great, but there have been plenty of massive arms that never made it to greatness, some attached to athletic and even mobile QB’s.
My only point, for like the third time is, history and numbers aren’t in his favor. So therefore acting like a fan boy and being all “lol” at the idea the Ryan will shake out over him in the all time rankings isn’t a position grounded in any sort of objective thought outside the mind of a fan boy.
[quote]on edge wrote:
What? [/quote]
Stunning rebuttal.
You aren’t being objective at all. You are also ignoring that 2 out of the 3 teams with running QB’s had top 5 defenses and all 3 had great running games behind them.
The “other 2” or “how many total” are irrelevant.
Your contention that there has been such a significant shift in the way the game is played and called that all conventional wisdom about what a QB’s role is at the professional level has done a complete 180? In 13 months?
This has been going on for the better part of a decade, and pocket passers have more wins…
That explains the RGIII injury perfectly.
It is your contention that up until February of last year, people paid millions of dollars had no idea how to utilize talent on their team?
How long have you been watching football?
Everything gets defeated. But, time and time again, throughout the history of the sport the same formula wins more often than not, including the team that beat the 9ers this year.
Primarily pocket QB with a brain
Solid+ run game
Good/great front 5
high caliber Defense/defense that elevated its game
wilson is like 5’8" and has a fantastic RB and a top tier defense.
Kap has a fantastic RB and a top tier defense.
Stop acting like the other 10 guys on the field don’t matter.
[quote]on edge wrote:
Yes the game has changed in the last 13 months. [/quote]
Actually you are right. It changed so much the team with the classic formula for success just trailed the entire game and lost to the new style team with the running QB in the superbowl.
Oh wait.
[quote]fnf wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]fnf wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]fnf wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
WINNER![/quote]
Still mad about my team beating your team in Atlanta?
But hey, everything you can put on this forum would be true cuz my team lost.[/quote]
Yep. It was revenge for me and Alex Smith.
Believe it or not, I have kept the faith for the 49er’s throughout the last 5 years. The dicking of Alex Smith had me write them off. From that point on I wanted them to lose. Sure Kaepernick may be more talented, but he’s not better. He’s not better than a guy who spent his years there hated, put in a failing system, then over come all of it, only to be totally dicked because he got a concussion. After that, I was in ‘fuck’em’ mode. You don’t treat people like that.
So fuck’em. They got Flacco’d, a real QB who’s been through the trenches.
Kaepernick wasn’t nervous. He should have been, little arrogant ass.[/quote]
So you want Kaepernick to be nervous like Matt Ryan in your past playoff games?
I know you’re mad at the coach, but it’s time to let it go. Alex Smith will soon be with another team trying to get them to the playoffs. I say, good luck. He deserves it.[/quote]
What?
No. Kaepernick says he wasn’t nervous about the game because he was prepared. He was wrong, he was not prepared. That’s the youth and inexperience talking. Vet’s know you’re never prepared enough and had to humility to admit they were nervous about the game because anything can and does happen.
And Matt Ryan out played Kap in that game, period. There were plenty of bad or no calls, which you did not see me bitch about. Like Bowman’s blatant pass interference on White. Not to mention several missed holding calls, another blatant missed pass interference on Jones, where his arms were actually held back, horrific ball spotting…On and on I could go.
Ultimately it was a weak dline requiring the secondary to play in more that cost us the game. Kap was regular in that game, just a manager did some good things, but not spectacular. But we’re not talking about that game.
If I had a choice between Ryan and Kaepernick to lead my team for the next 10 years I’ll take Ryan hands down. Kap is just a baby and we don’t know how he will be when his legs are no longer a factor in the game, which should be 5 years or less, which is average for that style of play. We also don’t know how he handle adversity, unless of course you think he will never have any which is not realistic. Couple of key injuries on that very good o-line and it’s a whole other ball game at the QB position. We know Smith can handle it, we know Ryan can handle it, we have no clue if Kaepernick can handle it.
If it were not for a very timely black out, the niners would have flat been embarrassed. The defense was worn down and had a chance to catch their breath and regroup. Flacco showed Kaepernick what a real QB looks like.
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My bad, I thought you meant you think Kaperncik should be nervous for the Super Bowl.
I did say Baltimore would have rolled for more points if there wasn’t a blackout.
You sound like you really hate Kaepernick. It should be Harbaugh you should be mad at.[/quote]
Eh, I don’t love or hate Kaepernick. I just think he is an infant in the league and crowning him the ‘best ever’ as some people have is just a hair premature. I want to see the ebbs and flows of a full 16 game season under his belt. Can he stay healthy? Can the big 3 runners adjust once defenses adjust to them? There was already non-sense on ESPN about him going to he Hall of Fame. Come on, really? He may, but we’re going to need 5 more years before we have any idea about stuff like that.
You certainly cannot claim that Kaepernick is either better or more talented that Cam Newton, yet Cam had a Sophomore slump. The league adjusted and he couldn’t for a while. With the rebirth of the options and pistol, you can bet defenses will be ready next year for it. What then? That’s the thing. You can always take the league by storm with something new for 1 year. After the new wears off, that’s where greatness is defined, by adjustments.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Let’s say hypothetically, SF DID get screwed. So what? Niner fans were getting so cocky heading into the Superbowl that a lot of “casuals” were rooting for the Ravens by game-time, even if they hated Ray Lewis! Jim Harbaugh’s irritating and enigmatic but non-charismatic personality, combined with media hype of the 49ers and their fan base pushed public sentiment of the casual fan to the Ravens. The Niners were trying to bring back their football elitism from the 80s but no one wants it back. In fact, it’s ironic because what I imagine is a bucket load of 49er Patriot haters actually base their hatred on New England from that same type of elitism. [/quote]
Yeah I agree, many niner fans were acting like the trophy was already in their hands and the game was a formality. Who knew that the Ravens would be ready? I dare say many were acting like Boston (Red Sox) fans.
I do know that the 49er’s won’t be a better team next year. They may not be worse, but they had a great team put together. I don’t see them being able to improve, so they should strive to stay the same, with the benefit of a more mature QB this time.
The off-season can only hurt them.
[quote]pat wrote:
I do know that the 49er’s won’t be a better team next year. They may not be worse, but they had a great team put together. I don’t see them being able to improve, so they should strive to stay the same, with the benefit of a more mature QB this time.
The off-season can only hurt them. [/quote]
Do you even watch football?
Switching QB’s mid season, implementing a new offense mid season and somehow the offseason will hurt them?
Yeah all that time to work on it and get everyone on the same page plus having a more mature QB with experience will be detrimental to the team. LOL.
You can dislike a team all you want and be bitter because your team lost but saying things like your last post make you look like you gave no idea what you’re talking about.
[quote]on edge wrote:
I don’t get all this argu - I mean discussion regarding the officiating.
There’ missed calls in every game and while the calls may have gone a little bit in the Ravens favor I didn’t think it was too bad over all. I saw a game where the winner basically out played the loser for most the game.
I’m a 9er fan.
Oh yeah, and LOL at the idea of Ryan being a better pick than Kap for the next 10 years.[/quote]
Guess we’ll see, won’t we?
Kap has virtually same record as Tebow at this point in his career with only one more play-off win.
Vick was also an extremely talented QB, the likes of whom the league had not seen. Look at him now.
Kap had the benefit of having a really good team around him, he should win. If he cannot win with that team, he sucks. Put him on the Panthers or the Jaguars and lets see how he does.
[quote]pat wrote:
Kap has virtually same record as Tebow at this point in his career…[/quote]
Anyone reading this and seeing your comparrison now knows that you:
A. Have no idea what you’re talking about.
B. Are clearly a “hater.”
C. Combination of both A. and B.
The answer is C by the way.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
I do know that the 49er’s won’t be a better team next year. They may not be worse, but they had a great team put together. I don’t see them being able to improve, so they should strive to stay the same, with the benefit of a more mature QB this time.
The off-season can only hurt them. [/quote]
Do you even watch football?
Switching QB’s mid season, implementing a new offense mid season and somehow the offseason will hurt them?
Yeah all that time to work on it and get everyone on the same page plus having a more mature QB with experience will be detrimental to the team. LOL.
You can dislike a team all you want and be bitter because your team lost but saying things like your last post make you look like you gave no idea what you’re talking about.
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Your team lost too.
What I was talking about was the talent in the team. The team is extremely talented and there is not much room for improvement. Are you saying their are glaring weaknesses on your team? I don’t see them.
I think your reading comprehension must suck. I was saying it’s hard for this to improve because it’s already so talented at virtually every position.
So let me get this strait, you were insulted that I said the 49ers are a very talented team and free agency and the trade market could only serve to hurt them? mmmk.
[quote]gregron wrote:
The answer is C by the way.[/quote]
I am not the one whining like a bitch about the refs losing you the game… I am the one who says the team is very talented and you get offended.
Seems to me your the bitter one.
[quote]pat wrote:
I just think he is an infant in the league and crowning him the ‘best ever’ as some people have is just a hair premature. [/quote]
This is the point I’m trying to make as well. Let’s just pump the brakes a little bit here.
I mean, given the small body of work the kid has at this point, there are some glaring flaws in his game he needs to work on. One of them being coming back down to Earth and playing like a human after big emotional wins.
Big emotional win in NE, lays egg agaisnt Seahawks next week.
Amazing poise and comeback agaisnt ATL, plays like a mortal in superbowl.
HEre is the deal:
Based on Ryan’s body of work it is likely he will make the playoffs again, more than once. But it seems unlikely he will be able to string together 3 or 4 wins in the playoffs to win the big game. He will need a dominant D to win him a ring. So to say Ryan is at his peak isn’t a stretch.
Now Kap has a 10 game sample, so it isn’t even fair to compare the two, but here goes because people have already.
Kap should only get better, which leads to people talking HOF and greatness. The kid is an amazing talent, smart and has the emotional stability. But there isn’t enough time under his belt to ignore football tradition here. Tradition is tradition for a reason, and it is too early to trust he is going to buck the trend. As it stands, based on history, his ceiling looks like Steve Young. Pretty fucking good no doubt, but can we at least wait for his second year before crowning him the king of the NFL.
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
The answer is C by the way.[/quote]
I am not the one whining like a bitch about the refs losing you the game… [/quote]
Neither am I.
I’ve said at least 3 times that I don’t blame the refs and that I put most of the blame on Kap’s decision not to walk in the game winning TD on second and
Goal and the questionable play calling/terrible safety play.
You’re obviously still bitter and aren’t actually reading the posts.
Keep slinging insults and showing off your lack of knowledge.
It’s just a game man. So what that the Falcons lost in the playoffs. They do it every year so you should be used to it by now.
[quote]pat wrote:
I am the one whining like a bitch… I am the bitter one. [/quote]
[quote]pat wrote:
I am the one whining like a bitch… I am the bitter one. [/quote]
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
The answer is C by the way.[/quote]
I am not the one whining like a bitch about the refs losing you the game…
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You’re obviously still bitter and aren’t actually reading the posts.
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I am not the one with reading comprehension issues. I said your team was good and you got insulted. ← That’s the sound of bitterness.
Then you want to get personal and attack me personally because you misread something I said? Take a cold shower and get your head on strait. I won’t return in kind, because I think this is purely emotive at this point.
[quote]pat wrote:
I am the one whining like a bitch… I am the bitter one. [/quote]
