[quote]xb-C wrote:
Taylor Mays got traded to Cincy[/quote]
I’m glad we got rid of him. Apparently he was 100% a Singletary pick, and he looked horrible on the field.
Great athlete, horrible football player.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Wow,the Texans look amazing! Arian “Master Race” Foster looks great and Tate did an amazing job. When they interviewed Tate,he was just so genuine and you can really enjoys being a Texans. Defense did an awesome job too. Proud of my Texans.[/quote]
Dare I say, Arian Foster the best running back in football. I like him better than Chris Johnson.[/quote]
I like Foster much better than Johnson. Arian’s work ethic and humbleness are awesome, and he takes cares of his business both on the field as well as off.
I like the fact that he’s more of a power back as well. Get these scat backs out of here, give me the good ol’ power backs and the ability to run through defenders.
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Wow,the Texans look amazing! Arian “Master Race” Foster looks great and Tate did an amazing job. When they interviewed Tate,he was just so genuine and you can really enjoys being a Texans. Defense did an awesome job too. Proud of my Texans.[/quote]
Dare I say, Arian Foster the best running back in football. I like him better than Chris Johnson.[/quote]
I like Foster much better than Johnson. Arian’s work ethic and humbleness are awesome, and he takes cares of his business both on the field as well as off.
I like the fact that he’s more of a power back as well. Get these scat backs out of here, give me the good ol’ power backs and the ability to run through defenders.[/quote]
I agree, but Foster was on the practice squad prior to last years season. He got a shot to start and he made the best of it. Hopefully he has another good year.
The rookie RB the patriots got is explosive too, Stevan Ridley. He looks small on screen but I guess He is 5’11 230. Brady is going to have a lot of players on offense to help him out.
Lawrence Timmons signs a new 6 year, $50 million extension. This is welcome news for Steeler fans. I was going to ask the wifey to get me a new jersey for my Bday but I had to wait to see if he signed before asking lol. He doesen’t get much print but he’s right on the cusp of being All-Pro. This might force JH to take a pay cut/restructure next year so they can extend someone else’s contract, Troy’s is going to be tricky as well.
[quote]xb-C wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Wow,the Texans look amazing! Arian “Master Race” Foster looks great and Tate did an amazing job. When they interviewed Tate,he was just so genuine and you can really enjoys being a Texans. Defense did an awesome job too. Proud of my Texans.[/quote]
Dare I say, Arian Foster the best running back in football. I like him better than Chris Johnson.[/quote]
I like Foster much better than Johnson. Arian’s work ethic and humbleness are awesome, and he takes cares of his business both on the field as well as off.
I like the fact that he’s more of a power back as well. Get these scat backs out of here, give me the good ol’ power backs and the ability to run through defenders.[/quote]
I agree, but Foster was on the practice squad prior to last years season. He got a shot to start and he made the best of it. Hopefully he has another good year.
The rookie RB the patriots got is explosive too, Stevan Ridley. He looks small on screen but I guess He is 5’11 230. Brady is going to have a lot of players on offense to help him out.
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Dar’rel Scott, the rookie RB out of Maryland that is now playing for the Giants, has also looked great. He busted a 95+ yard TD run the other night, and was always a speedster with decent size in college.
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]xb-C wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Wow,the Texans look amazing! Arian “Master Race” Foster looks great and Tate did an amazing job. When they interviewed Tate,he was just so genuine and you can really enjoys being a Texans. Defense did an awesome job too. Proud of my Texans.[/quote]
Dare I say, Arian Foster the best running back in football. I like him better than Chris Johnson.[/quote]
I like Foster much better than Johnson. Arian’s work ethic and humbleness are awesome, and he takes cares of his business both on the field as well as off.
I like the fact that he’s more of a power back as well. Get these scat backs out of here, give me the good ol’ power backs and the ability to run through defenders.[/quote]
I agree, but Foster was on the practice squad prior to last years season. He got a shot to start and he made the best of it. Hopefully he has another good year.
The rookie RB the patriots got is explosive too, Stevan Ridley. He looks small on screen but I guess He is 5’11 230. Brady is going to have a lot of players on offense to help him out.
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Dar’rel Scott, the rookie RB out of Maryland that is now playing for the Giants, has also looked great. He busted a 95+ yard TD run the other night, and was always a speedster with decent size in college.[/quote]
Dang I missed that. I saw the first half, if the Giants can keep Bradshaw and Jacobs healthy and from fumbling they will be tough to stop. I saw Jacobs break away for that 18yd TD, for a a big power back, whose been in the league a while, he can still play and take it the distance. On a side note I was bummed to hear about Prince Amukamara breaking his foot. That has to be hard on a rookie mentally I think. Being a first round pick, expecting to come in fulfill a starting role, and then getting hurt pretty badly, thats gotta suck.
[quote]xb-C wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]xb-C wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Wow,the Texans look amazing! Arian “Master Race” Foster looks great and Tate did an amazing job. When they interviewed Tate,he was just so genuine and you can really enjoys being a Texans. Defense did an awesome job too. Proud of my Texans.[/quote]
Dare I say, Arian Foster the best running back in football. I like him better than Chris Johnson.[/quote]
I like Foster much better than Johnson. Arian’s work ethic and humbleness are awesome, and he takes cares of his business both on the field as well as off.
I like the fact that he’s more of a power back as well. Get these scat backs out of here, give me the good ol’ power backs and the ability to run through defenders.[/quote]
I agree, but Foster was on the practice squad prior to last years season. He got a shot to start and he made the best of it. Hopefully he has another good year.
The rookie RB the patriots got is explosive too, Stevan Ridley. He looks small on screen but I guess He is 5’11 230. Brady is going to have a lot of players on offense to help him out.
[/quote]
Dar’rel Scott, the rookie RB out of Maryland that is now playing for the Giants, has also looked great. He busted a 95+ yard TD run the other night, and was always a speedster with decent size in college.[/quote]
Dang I missed that. I saw the first half, if the Giants can keep Bradshaw and Jacobs healthy and from fumbling they will be tough to stop. I saw Jacobs break away for that 18yd TD, for a a big power back, whose been in the league a while, he can still play and take it the distance. On a side note I was bummed to hear about Prince Amukamara breaking his foot. That has to be hard on a rookie mentally I think. Being a first round pick, expecting to come in fulfill a starting role, and then getting hurt pretty badly, thats gotta suck.
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Interesting thought went through my head in regards to the Giants and the insane amount of injuries that they’ve had.
Do you think it’s simply bad luck? or the result of a poor strength/conditioning and trainer/physical therapy staff?
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]xb-C wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]xb-C wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]QuadasarusFlex wrote:
Wow,the Texans look amazing! Arian “Master Race” Foster looks great and Tate did an amazing job. When they interviewed Tate,he was just so genuine and you can really enjoys being a Texans. Defense did an awesome job too. Proud of my Texans.[/quote]
Dare I say, Arian Foster the best running back in football. I like him better than Chris Johnson.[/quote]
I like Foster much better than Johnson. Arian’s work ethic and humbleness are awesome, and he takes cares of his business both on the field as well as off.
I like the fact that he’s more of a power back as well. Get these scat backs out of here, give me the good ol’ power backs and the ability to run through defenders.[/quote]
I agree, but Foster was on the practice squad prior to last years season. He got a shot to start and he made the best of it. Hopefully he has another good year.
The rookie RB the patriots got is explosive too, Stevan Ridley. He looks small on screen but I guess He is 5’11 230. Brady is going to have a lot of players on offense to help him out.
[/quote]
Dar’rel Scott, the rookie RB out of Maryland that is now playing for the Giants, has also looked great. He busted a 95+ yard TD run the other night, and was always a speedster with decent size in college.[/quote]
Dang I missed that. I saw the first half, if the Giants can keep Bradshaw and Jacobs healthy and from fumbling they will be tough to stop. I saw Jacobs break away for that 18yd TD, for a a big power back, whose been in the league a while, he can still play and take it the distance. On a side note I was bummed to hear about Prince Amukamara breaking his foot. That has to be hard on a rookie mentally I think. Being a first round pick, expecting to come in fulfill a starting role, and then getting hurt pretty badly, thats gotta suck.
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Interesting thought went through my head in regards to the Giants and the insane amount of injuries that they’ve had.
Do you think it’s simply bad luck? or the result of a poor strength/conditioning and trainer/physical therapy staff?[/quote]
I think with regards to the injuries there are now stem from the extended off season, and then being rushed right back to camp and practicing, although it being limited, and then playing.
I did a quick search, and for some reason NFL.com dosn’t keep track of pre-season injuries, but I was able to find this over at ESPN.
NFL Injuries | ESPN
As far as team injuries go, I think a lot of it depends on the type of “athlete”. We all know to be able to play in the NFL you have to be at an elite level. But even then, I think there is a gap amongst the players based on various aspects of the players own abilities.
This is a great video with Dave Tate and Buddy Morris explaining this.
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[quote]mkral55 wrote:
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Huge Tim Tebow fan here also. I think he’ll be one of those Doug Flutie type athletes, physically (or mechanically I should say in Tebow’s case) below average but what he lacks in technique he makes up for with heart and perseverance.[/quote]
I agree. The only thing I don’t like about him is that he thought he was going to automatically be the starter this year and started pouting when Orton was working with the first team. It’s only his second year, it’s not a bad thing to be the backup and learn more. Look at Rodgers.[/quote]
The fact that he got drafted by a person whose no longer on the team is also really unfortunate. Josh McDaniels is the one who picked Tebow, and now that he’s no longer with the team, Tebow is a leftover from a previous regime.
You can tell that they don’t really know what to do with him. Make him the face of the franchise even though they didn’t pick him? or trade him away?
I wish he would just go to a team where he can be like Cam Newton, the obvious future of the franchise, no matter how he performs for the first couple years.[/quote]
You guys are joking about Tebow right?[/quote]
Nope. I’d take him over Alex Smith.[/quote]
That brings up a question. Is Smith’s downward career his fault or fault of the staff? If I remember correctly, he did well in college(I may be thinking of another QB).[/quote]
Of course he did well in college, he was the number 1 pick after all.
And I don’t watch every 49ers game, and I’m no expert, but there comes a time when QB’s have to just produce something.
There’s too many young QB’s that came in recently and are showing a lot more promise than Smith, some of them even in similar situations. (Bradford, came into a struggling team with a strong RB and not much else, kinda comparable). Flacco, Stafford, Ryan, Sanchez, the list goes on.
He gets the “bust” label cuz he went 1 overall, and 6 years later is still throwing less than 60% and missing what, 30 games in the last 4 years. Definitely not entirely the staff’s fault for that.
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I’d say it’s 70% Alex Smith’s fault and 30% the organizations fault. The constant change definitely hurts, but Smith has had plenty of opportunities to succeed, but has simply fallen short every single time.
I think the Bradford example is a very good one. He came onto a horrible team, started very quickly, and showed that he’s going to be a very good QB. His numbers weren’t anything otherworldly, but he proved his worth. Smith hasn’t ever done that, and he’s had years to do so.
The only reason he’s stayed around so long is because there simply aren’t that many decent QB’s at the NFL level, and every new coach that comes in sees that Smith is average but knows the team and the organization well, so they might as well keep him because there’s nothing noticeably better out there (unless you go all in for a Kolb).
Stuck in the land of mediocrity.[/quote]
I’m going to add that multiple years of significant injuries didn’t help him.
But yeah, even removing the injuries and the horrible coaching staffs/changes - I think I’d still rather take Aaron Rodgers based on pure talent. That guy might have a future in this “NFL” thing.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]mkral55 wrote:
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Huge Tim Tebow fan here also. I think he’ll be one of those Doug Flutie type athletes, physically (or mechanically I should say in Tebow’s case) below average but what he lacks in technique he makes up for with heart and perseverance.[/quote]
I agree. The only thing I don’t like about him is that he thought he was going to automatically be the starter this year and started pouting when Orton was working with the first team. It’s only his second year, it’s not a bad thing to be the backup and learn more. Look at Rodgers.[/quote]
The fact that he got drafted by a person whose no longer on the team is also really unfortunate. Josh McDaniels is the one who picked Tebow, and now that he’s no longer with the team, Tebow is a leftover from a previous regime.
You can tell that they don’t really know what to do with him. Make him the face of the franchise even though they didn’t pick him? or trade him away?
I wish he would just go to a team where he can be like Cam Newton, the obvious future of the franchise, no matter how he performs for the first couple years.[/quote]
You guys are joking about Tebow right?[/quote]
Nope. I’d take him over Alex Smith.[/quote]
That brings up a question. Is Smith’s downward career his fault or fault of the staff? If I remember correctly, he did well in college(I may be thinking of another QB).[/quote]
Of course he did well in college, he was the number 1 pick after all.
And I don’t watch every 49ers game, and I’m no expert, but there comes a time when QB’s have to just produce something.
There’s too many young QB’s that came in recently and are showing a lot more promise than Smith, some of them even in similar situations. (Bradford, came into a struggling team with a strong RB and not much else, kinda comparable). Flacco, Stafford, Ryan, Sanchez, the list goes on.
He gets the “bust” label cuz he went 1 overall, and 6 years later is still throwing less than 60% and missing what, 30 games in the last 4 years. Definitely not entirely the staff’s fault for that.
[/quote]
I’d say it’s 70% Alex Smith’s fault and 30% the organizations fault. The constant change definitely hurts, but Smith has had plenty of opportunities to succeed, but has simply fallen short every single time.
I think the Bradford example is a very good one. He came onto a horrible team, started very quickly, and showed that he’s going to be a very good QB. His numbers weren’t anything otherworldly, but he proved his worth. Smith hasn’t ever done that, and he’s had years to do so.
The only reason he’s stayed around so long is because there simply aren’t that many decent QB’s at the NFL level, and every new coach that comes in sees that Smith is average but knows the team and the organization well, so they might as well keep him because there’s nothing noticeably better out there (unless you go all in for a Kolb).
Stuck in the land of mediocrity.[/quote]
I’m going to add that multiple years of significant injuries didn’t help him.
But yeah, even removing the injuries and the horrible coaching staffs/changes - I think I’d still rather take Aaron Rodgers based on pure talent. That guy might have a future in this “NFL” thing.[/quote]
Still not as bad as it was for the Chargers and Leaf vs Peyton.
The Colts signed Kerry Collins because Manning most likely won’t be ready for the opener.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
Still not as bad as it was for the Chargers and Leaf vs Peyton.[/quote]
I think they made up for that with Rivers+Merriman for Eli
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]mkral55 wrote:
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Huge Tim Tebow fan here also. I think he’ll be one of those Doug Flutie type athletes, physically (or mechanically I should say in Tebow’s case) below average but what he lacks in technique he makes up for with heart and perseverance.[/quote]
I agree. The only thing I don’t like about him is that he thought he was going to automatically be the starter this year and started pouting when Orton was working with the first team. It’s only his second year, it’s not a bad thing to be the backup and learn more. Look at Rodgers.[/quote]
The fact that he got drafted by a person whose no longer on the team is also really unfortunate. Josh McDaniels is the one who picked Tebow, and now that he’s no longer with the team, Tebow is a leftover from a previous regime.
You can tell that they don’t really know what to do with him. Make him the face of the franchise even though they didn’t pick him? or trade him away?
I wish he would just go to a team where he can be like Cam Newton, the obvious future of the franchise, no matter how he performs for the first couple years.[/quote]
You guys are joking about Tebow right?[/quote]
Nope. I’d take him over Alex Smith.[/quote]
That brings up a question. Is Smith’s downward career his fault or fault of the staff? If I remember correctly, he did well in college(I may be thinking of another QB).[/quote]
Of course he did well in college, he was the number 1 pick after all.
And I don’t watch every 49ers game, and I’m no expert, but there comes a time when QB’s have to just produce something.
There’s too many young QB’s that came in recently and are showing a lot more promise than Smith, some of them even in similar situations. (Bradford, came into a struggling team with a strong RB and not much else, kinda comparable). Flacco, Stafford, Ryan, Sanchez, the list goes on.
He gets the “bust” label cuz he went 1 overall, and 6 years later is still throwing less than 60% and missing what, 30 games in the last 4 years. Definitely not entirely the staff’s fault for that.
[/quote]
I’d say it’s 70% Alex Smith’s fault and 30% the organizations fault. The constant change definitely hurts, but Smith has had plenty of opportunities to succeed, but has simply fallen short every single time.
I think the Bradford example is a very good one. He came onto a horrible team, started very quickly, and showed that he’s going to be a very good QB. His numbers weren’t anything otherworldly, but he proved his worth. Smith hasn’t ever done that, and he’s had years to do so.
The only reason he’s stayed around so long is because there simply aren’t that many decent QB’s at the NFL level, and every new coach that comes in sees that Smith is average but knows the team and the organization well, so they might as well keep him because there’s nothing noticeably better out there (unless you go all in for a Kolb).
Stuck in the land of mediocrity.[/quote]
I’m going to add that multiple years of significant injuries didn’t help him.
But yeah, even removing the injuries and the horrible coaching staffs/changes - I think I’d still rather take Aaron Rodgers based on pure talent. That guy might have a future in this “NFL” thing.[/quote]
Still not as bad as it was for the Chargers and Leaf vs Peyton.[/quote]
It’s different though. The Chargers didn’t have the option to take Peyton Manning since he was number one overall. The 49ers had the option to choose Rodgers or Smith. Rodgers got put on a good team though.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]scj119 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]mkral55 wrote:
[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Huge Tim Tebow fan here also. I think he’ll be one of those Doug Flutie type athletes, physically (or mechanically I should say in Tebow’s case) below average but what he lacks in technique he makes up for with heart and perseverance.[/quote]
I agree. The only thing I don’t like about him is that he thought he was going to automatically be the starter this year and started pouting when Orton was working with the first team. It’s only his second year, it’s not a bad thing to be the backup and learn more. Look at Rodgers.[/quote]
The fact that he got drafted by a person whose no longer on the team is also really unfortunate. Josh McDaniels is the one who picked Tebow, and now that he’s no longer with the team, Tebow is a leftover from a previous regime.
You can tell that they don’t really know what to do with him. Make him the face of the franchise even though they didn’t pick him? or trade him away?
I wish he would just go to a team where he can be like Cam Newton, the obvious future of the franchise, no matter how he performs for the first couple years.[/quote]
You guys are joking about Tebow right?[/quote]
Nope. I’d take him over Alex Smith.[/quote]
That brings up a question. Is Smith’s downward career his fault or fault of the staff? If I remember correctly, he did well in college(I may be thinking of another QB).[/quote]
Of course he did well in college, he was the number 1 pick after all.
And I don’t watch every 49ers game, and I’m no expert, but there comes a time when QB’s have to just produce something.
There’s too many young QB’s that came in recently and are showing a lot more promise than Smith, some of them even in similar situations. (Bradford, came into a struggling team with a strong RB and not much else, kinda comparable). Flacco, Stafford, Ryan, Sanchez, the list goes on.
He gets the “bust” label cuz he went 1 overall, and 6 years later is still throwing less than 60% and missing what, 30 games in the last 4 years. Definitely not entirely the staff’s fault for that.
[/quote]
I’d say it’s 70% Alex Smith’s fault and 30% the organizations fault. The constant change definitely hurts, but Smith has had plenty of opportunities to succeed, but has simply fallen short every single time.
I think the Bradford example is a very good one. He came onto a horrible team, started very quickly, and showed that he’s going to be a very good QB. His numbers weren’t anything otherworldly, but he proved his worth. Smith hasn’t ever done that, and he’s had years to do so.
The only reason he’s stayed around so long is because there simply aren’t that many decent QB’s at the NFL level, and every new coach that comes in sees that Smith is average but knows the team and the organization well, so they might as well keep him because there’s nothing noticeably better out there (unless you go all in for a Kolb).
Stuck in the land of mediocrity.[/quote]
I’m going to add that multiple years of significant injuries didn’t help him.
But yeah, even removing the injuries and the horrible coaching staffs/changes - I think I’d still rather take Aaron Rodgers based on pure talent. That guy might have a future in this “NFL” thing.[/quote]
Still not as bad as it was for the Chargers and Leaf vs Peyton.[/quote]
It’s different though. The Chargers didn’t have the option to take Peyton Manning since he was number one overall. The 49ers had the option to choose Rodgers or Smith. Rodgers got put on a good team though.[/quote]
Got put on a great team you mean, with a great front office and a great talent pool.
More importantly, he sat beind Brett Favre, a sure fire hall of famer…
A little bit more advantageous than sitting behind Shaun Hill or JT O’Sullivan.
^ yes the Chargers didnt have much of a choice I guess, they didnt have to take Leaf. I remember that draft and all the experts had it neck and neck with Peyton.
What other QB’s were in that draft class?
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^ yes the Chargers didnt have much of a choice I guess, they didnt have to take Leaf. I remember that draft and all the experts had it neck and neck with Peyton.
What other QB’s were in that draft class? [/quote]
Actually the only other QB taken in that draft that actually had some success was Matt Hasselbeck who was taken at the end of the 6th round by the Packers. I guess you could say everybody missed that one. Other than that the other QBs in the draft were weak.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ yes the Chargers didnt have much of a choice I guess, they didnt have to take Leaf. I remember that draft and all the experts had it neck and neck with Peyton.
What other QB’s were in that draft class? [/quote]
Actually the only other QB taken in that draft that actually had some success was Matt Hasselbeck who was taken at the end of the 6th round by the Packers. I guess you could say everybody missed that one. Other than that the other QBs in the draft were weak.[/quote]
Charlie Batch 
Brian Griese
Yea that had to be the worst QB draft of all time.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ yes the Chargers didnt have much of a choice I guess, they didnt have to take Leaf. I remember that draft and all the experts had it neck and neck with Peyton.
What other QB’s were in that draft class? [/quote]
Actually the only other QB taken in that draft that actually had some success was Matt Hasselbeck who was taken at the end of the 6th round by the Packers. I guess you could say everybody missed that one. Other than that the other QBs in the draft were weak.[/quote]
Charlie Batch
Brian Griese
Yea that had to be the worst QB draft of all time. [/quote]
Haha, yeah. The funny thing is one of the best QBs of all time came out of the draft.
Now what about the best QB draft class. I think you can argue that the draft in 2004 with three QBs taken in the first 11 picks has three possible hall of fame QBs in the making.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ yes the Chargers didnt have much of a choice I guess, they didnt have to take Leaf. I remember that draft and all the experts had it neck and neck with Peyton.
What other QB’s were in that draft class? [/quote]
Actually the only other QB taken in that draft that actually had some success was Matt Hasselbeck who was taken at the end of the 6th round by the Packers. I guess you could say everybody missed that one. Other than that the other QBs in the draft were weak.[/quote]
Charlie Batch
Brian Griese
Yea that had to be the worst QB draft of all time. [/quote]
Haha, yeah. The funny thing is one of the best QBs of all time came out of the draft.
Now what about the best QB draft class. I think you can argue that the draft in 2004 with three QBs taken in the first 11 picks has three possible hall of fame QBs in the making.[/quote]
True, the more you get into football I mean really get into football you realize that Franchise QB’s are so fucking rare.
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ yes the Chargers didnt have much of a choice I guess, they didnt have to take Leaf. I remember that draft and all the experts had it neck and neck with Peyton.
What other QB’s were in that draft class? [/quote]
Actually the only other QB taken in that draft that actually had some success was Matt Hasselbeck who was taken at the end of the 6th round by the Packers. I guess you could say everybody missed that one. Other than that the other QBs in the draft were weak.[/quote]
Charlie Batch
Brian Griese
Yea that had to be the worst QB draft of all time. [/quote]
Haha, yeah. The funny thing is one of the best QBs of all time came out of the draft.
Now what about the best QB draft class. I think you can argue that the draft in 2004 with three QBs taken in the first 11 picks has three possible hall of fame QBs in the making.[/quote]
True, the more you get into football I mean really get into football you realize that Franchise QB’s are so fucking rare.[/quote]
Yes, totally. I always think the Chargers had two of them at once. Most teams would die to have just one.