[quote]cromwell2007 wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]cromwell2007 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]cromwell2007 wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
nauseating … I guess I would rather see that Criminal Ray Lewis win.[/quote]
Well, he did’nt. Also he is busy throttling billy Cundif while T Suggs crams a traffic cone up billys AZZ. Also, hating the Patriots is lame. It’s not our fault you got beat by the Donkeys, a team we blew out by 35…just because the Steelers couldnt beat either the Ravens or the Donkeys is no reason to hate the team that did[/quote]
Matty is first and foremost a Jets fan, so he kind of has a reason to hate the Pats.[/quote]
My mistake, its usually Steeler fans that hate the Pats. I never hated the Jets until they got that fat loud mouthed foot smeller Rex Ryan as a coach. Win the superbowl eh? try 8-8 fat boy. Never has a team talked so much shit for 2 years and failed miserably. And btw Sanchize sucks. Enough with the excuses. He regressed and never was that great to start with. while we are at it, tell Rob Ryan to STFU too. All those guys do is talk and lose. Nice act.[/quote]
LOL, do the Jets suck, yeah they do this year…they didnt address their needs and every facet of their personell either stayed the same or got worse…so Ill take my lumps this year.
However to say getting to two championship games 2 years in a row is failing miserably then count me in, I believe we beat that Pats last year also, but I guess that doesn’t count.
How can a Pat fan not hate the Jets? Just when Ryan came into town you started hating them? Shit our hatred for each other goes further back then Ryan, think Curtis Martin, Mo Lewis being single handedly responsible for starting your beginning from mediocre franchize to one of the most revered (when he knocked out Bledsoe) Think that smug arrogant Bellichek foregoing coaching the Jets and quitting in a day and jumping ship to your team. Think all the former jets and pats players who have switched allegiances.
If you just started hating the Jets you must be 12, there is no other team I hate more than the Pats.
While there are some Pat fans on here that I truly like (Beans and Ddot) I really hope they are severely disappointed come SB Sunday.
Your comments on Sanchez screams ignorance just like most talking heads and idiot fans. Think of other top level QBs that have struggled in their 3rd year (Eli Manning Drew Bledsoe for instance) On top of that he had 31 total TDs this year…
This is in spite of the following:
A shit offensive line (wayne hunter and Dbrickashaw Ferguson were awful)
No running game
a horrible OC
This season disaster does not only fall at Sanchezes’ feet but the front office not addressing the needs for a pure pass rusher and a legit Right Guard.
The jury is still out on Sanchez, as DJ stated he has improved every year but everything is magnified in NY.
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First of all, I have been a Pats fan for over 35 years and don’t like the Jets anymore than the Dolphins or Bills or any other team. You have some good points( especially about allegiances and front office), but admit Rex Ryans constant shit talking did nothing to help you and that locker room is lost. Sanchez panics and chokes in big games. Yes you do have other issues probably because Rex was too busy trying to get an all Pro secondary (how that work out). You would not hate belichek if he was your coach, trust me. I have only met him once and that whole “smug and complacent” thing is a media creation, just like the notion that Eli Manning is not an elite QB. I played for Coach Coughlin as a collegiate player, and I can tell you if he did not think Eli was, He would’nt be a Giant. Mr Coughlin is not none for being sentimental. Sanchez is not a locker room leader and that locker room is divided. And you are stuck with “mr quit on his team” Santonio Holmes and Rex 'run his mouth and finish 8-8" Ryan. Btw we beat you twice this year. Get used to it until you “fix” that team. I don’t think we will be disappointed, but I bet Rex is still crying[/quote]
ehhh. but last year still didnt count?
I am not a fan of Ryans exuberance and BS that comes with him, Just because I root for a team does not mean I have to like every facet of them, Ryan is not my style, just as I would get bored of Bellichek’s mundane approach and tight lipped attitude, something in the middle I would prefer, obviously I would enjoy the results but I always enjoyed the Herm Edwards type of coaching style (not all of it, wasnt a fan of his conservative offense) but as far as personalities go I thought Herm had it down to a tee with media, fans and players.
No one is stuck with anyone in the NFL, while I doubt the Jets will cut him they always could and eat the money which is what I would prefer. I dont consider Sanchez a choker by any means, last year he practically willed the Jets to at least 3 victories.
I dont know Bellichek so I will go by his media personality and if thats what he wants to portray (smug, prickish and miserable) thats what I will react to. Ryan’s personality is created for the media as well.
You may have been a fan for 35 years but your posts ring like your 11 (-1 year from last post) so now your going to fucking throw out I know these guys personally and yadda yadda yadda. I dont know why that has any relevance to this e-conversation. Eli Manning became a Giant because of the Maras and the front office not because of Coughlin. Coughlin obviously as head coach will have some input but his no nonsense ass would have been fired as well if he didnt win this year. But because you played for him Im sure his, as you put it “none for sentimental” attitude would make him understand why it was done. I think Coughlin is a borderline HOF coach if he wins this year and am a big fan of his BTW, so Im not insulting him but to say just because Tom likes him is the only reason Eli is the QB for the Giants is comical.
Your opinion on who is a leader and who isnt is just stupid, you dont know, your not in the lockeroom, its hyperbole and opinion on your part stop typing like its fact.
Hypothetically if the Pats had a horrendous year, you dont think the media will be shitting on Bellicheck because he didnt address their lackluster defense? You dont think they would be questioning the shit signings of Ocho Cinco and Haynesworth? The only team I hate as much as the Pats are the Fish, but even with that being stated I am fair and objective…with that being said Lets go Giants!