Newbie on AAS. Please guide

I am pretty lean with some amount of muscle and little fat
Planning to take Test and Dbol
I heard that I will get bloated especially on face, but I hate the water retention on face.
Is there any way to completely get rid of the water retention while using Dbol.
(Heard that the cause of water retention will be from the excess Testosterone aromatizing into estrogen, so if I use an AI , would I can get rid of the water retention)

Also tell me how to eat on gear, my goal is not to look overly Bulky, I love to get vascular and muscular (btw I was very vascular months ago, even in my chest had popping veins without any steroid, but now it disappeared bcz I gained some fat with some muscle).

BTW I would die to get a body with muscles and low body fat.

I also train very hard like pull-ups with 20kg weight 16 repmax

My stats:-
Age : 21
Height : 5’11
Weight : 68 kg
My dream body guys :pleading_face:

Goal :- Gain muscle with reducing Body fat (like seeing veins)
You can also suggest another stack suited for my goal.

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Minimize salt intake.
Add no salt to anything.
Avoid processed foods (they can have sodium added)

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Thanks for the reply, so you are telling I will not get puffy face on Dbol while adjusting my diet and having AI

Your height and weight is telling me you have very little muscle on your frame.
You should be learning how to eat and train properly before even thinking about taking gear.

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My new years resolution is to start taking steroids and learn how to lift weights.

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Let me just say what I did.

  • I never took AI on my AAS cycles.
  • Regardless what AAS I took, I always minimized sodium intake where I could. When taking Dianabol, I never took more than 20mg/day.
  • I never got a bloated look and was never longer than 8 weeks out from contest shape.

So, my questions:

  • How much Dianabol do you plan to take per day?
  • How much testosterone do you plan to take per week?
  • What is your 5 rep bench press max?
  • What is your 5 rep squat max?

A current pic would be helpful.

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This is number one sign that you should stay very far away from steroids.

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Yeah pick something better than Dbol. Just take the injectable only, or maybe try Tbol is the water retention is such an issue for you.

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I call bullshit on the 16 weighted pullups.

That’s because you were (still are) emaciated.

I told I don’t wanna look like a bear
But still I have pretty much muscles
People ask me about my body ( even one of my relative doubted me to drugs, cz how I got vascular while being muscular)

It’s not i am thin, i can get veins pretty much easily, think it genetics, even my father has a lot, eventhough he stoped going to gym.

& Having veins doesn’t mean thin, anyone who saw me never called me thin but exact opposite, they ask me how long have been in the gym…

Btw I loves to workout with high intensity no light weight ( fan of Mike mentzer :kissing_heart:)

Doesn’t assume I am rude to anyone. Love all :heart:

I turned to roids because now I can’t put on muscle without getting fat.

I think for first cycle I would go simple like

250 mg test/wk
20 mg dianabol ED

Is it ok or do I need to reduce or add anything.

&If you don’t mind can you plot me a cycle with that

What about PCT & when to start or anything during on cycle :pray:

I will agree. Start like I did: 15mg/day of Dianabol for 8 weeks. Get off for 6 weeks and do it again. Keep that 8 weeks “on” and 6 weeks “off” for a couple years and see where you are. Who cares about PCT, you’ll be back on cycle soon enough.

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Thanks :+1:

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The dudes sub 150lb at 5’11 and isn’t lean, his biggest boast in lifting is weighted chin ups (because he’s got low BW!) - definitely does not need gear, just a good training plan, lots of food, consistency and time.

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This thread is exactly why I think T-Nation is the best training forum on the net. Most other forums I’ve joined to become a part of and learn from other people are just full of people completely normalizing steroid use for anyone and every one no matter their training history, current stats, or mental state.

Other places seem so de-sensitized that it’s often about the stack rather than training being discussed. It’s boring and there’s nothing to be gained from being active there for most people. It’s a good look into current society though.

To the guys making considered educated choices on things that are important to you. You keep doing you.

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Your comment here reads like a label on a paint can reading “drink me, I’m safe”.

While i agree with the approach of letting the stupids weed themselves out of the gene pool, i think this stupid is actually going to do so.

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Let’s say this is true. That means this 150lb guy can do 16 reps as if he weighed 194lbs. That is very impressive for a person who needs to learn how to train. He has got to have some muscle to do that.

Now let’s assume he is 10% body fat. That would be pretty lean. So, he would be carrying 15lbs of fat. Add 44lbs of weight (“fat”). Now we have a 194lb person with 59lbs of fat. That is a person who is about 30% body fat.

So, you tell me that a person who weighs 194lbs with a body fat percentage of 30% is going to rep out some pullups? Not a chance.

So, the real question is whether the person is grossly exaggerating his capability. I just assumed he was truthful. Plus I started taking Dianabol when I was 22 years old. In retrospect, it wasn’t a terrible mistake for me.

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Yes, there is nothing to lie for
This is my weighted pull-up chart