When you speak of elbow pain, I was just wondering this morning about whether or not the GHRP 2 is gonna do anything for that? GHRP 6 definitely helped it. But I notice no help from the G 2. BUTTTT I have to say I am training harder and heavier now, more than I was when on the G 6.
But thinking after this and the next vial of G 2, going back to G 6 again?
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
TX: I had a strained biceps tendon (just close to the insertion into the elbow) and it fucking sucks! Avoid elbow pains at all cost dude…
GHRP-6 question: to the guys who are using GHRP-6 along with CJC, how much CJC are you taking with your GHRP-6?
My understanding is that its close to a 1-1 ratio.
I’ve decided the next time I use GHRP-6 I’m going to run CJC concurrently to amplify the results. Has anyone who has experimented found an optimum ratio? I’m interested to hear peoples experiences…
Thanks guys, BB[/quote]
for a 100kg male (220 lbs i believe) 100mcg of each is saturation BUT say bumping up to 200mcg each may increase the effectiveness by ~50% (just an example) and increasing again to 300mcg may increase by another ~25% (another example) but 400mcg may not cause any more response than 300mg
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
TX: I had a strained biceps tendon (just close to the insertion into the elbow) and it fucking sucks! Avoid elbow pains at all cost dude…
GHRP-6 question: to the guys who are using GHRP-6 along with CJC, how much CJC are you taking with your GHRP-6?
My understanding is that its close to a 1-1 ratio.
I’ve decided the next time I use GHRP-6 I’m going to run CJC concurrently to amplify the results. Has anyone who has experimented found an optimum ratio? I’m interested to hear peoples experiences…
Thanks guys, BB[/quote]
for a 100kg male (220 lbs i believe) 100mcg of each is saturation BUT say bumping up to 200mcg each may increase the effectiveness by ~50% (just an example) and increasing again to 300mcg may increase by another ~25% (another example) but 400mcg may not cause any more response than 300mg[/quote]
Good reminder. I have read that in several places… and it may be a good idea to go to 200 mcg 2-3 times a day. I would also tend to see the benefits as they would most likely be more pronounced…if they are there. Good point, I’ll start later today.
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
TX: I had a strained biceps tendon (just close to the insertion into the elbow) and it fucking sucks! Avoid elbow pains at all cost dude…
GHRP-6 question: to the guys who are using GHRP-6 along with CJC, how much CJC are you taking with your GHRP-6?
My understanding is that its close to a 1-1 ratio.
I’ve decided the next time I use GHRP-6 I’m going to run CJC concurrently to amplify the results. Has anyone who has experimented found an optimum ratio? I’m interested to hear peoples experiences…
Thanks guys, BB[/quote]
for a 100kg male (220 lbs i believe) 100mcg of each is saturation BUT say bumping up to 200mcg each may increase the effectiveness by ~50% (just an example) and increasing again to 300mcg may increase by another ~25% (another example) but 400mcg may not cause any more response than 300mg[/quote]
Good reminder. I have read that in several places… and it may be a good idea to go to 200 mcg 2-3 times a day. I would also tend to see the benefits as they would most likely be more pronounced…if they are there. Good point, I’ll start later today.[/quote]
Thanks guys, I’m definitely picking up what you’re putting down.
At the risk of sounding stupid here: If CJC doubles the effectiveness of GHRP-6 i.e 100mcg CJC makes 100mcg GHRP-6 twice as effective, will it be MORE effective than just doubling the GHRP-6 dose? Am I making sense? My understanding is that CJC amplifies the results of GHRP-6; or is a case where when you have reached saturation point with GHRP-6, adding the CJC will take you further by amplifying the results past your bodies capacity for utilization without it (CJC)?
I hope this makes sense…
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
TX: I had a strained biceps tendon (just close to the insertion into the elbow) and it fucking sucks! Avoid elbow pains at all cost dude…
GHRP-6 question: to the guys who are using GHRP-6 along with CJC, how much CJC are you taking with your GHRP-6?
My understanding is that its close to a 1-1 ratio.
I’ve decided the next time I use GHRP-6 I’m going to run CJC concurrently to amplify the results. Has anyone who has experimented found an optimum ratio? I’m interested to hear peoples experiences…
Thanks guys, BB[/quote]
for a 100kg male (220 lbs i believe) 100mcg of each is saturation BUT say bumping up to 200mcg each may increase the effectiveness by ~50% (just an example) and increasing again to 300mcg may increase by another ~25% (another example) but 400mcg may not cause any more response than 300mg[/quote]
Good reminder. I have read that in several places… and it may be a good idea to go to 200 mcg 2-3 times a day. I would also tend to see the benefits as they would most likely be more pronounced…if they are there. Good point, I’ll start later today.[/quote]
Thanks guys, I’m definitely picking up what you’re putting down.
At the risk of sounding stupid here: If CJC doubles the effectiveness of GHRP-6 i.e 100mcg CJC makes 100mcg GHRP-6 twice as effective, will it be MORE effective than just doubling the GHRP-6 dose? Am I making sense? My understanding is that CJC amplifies the results of GHRP-6; or is a case where when you have reached saturation point with GHRP-6, adding the CJC will take you further by amplifying the results past your bodies capacity for utilization without it (CJC)? Or is it the synergistic effect of combining the two which is desirable?
I hope this makes sense…[/quote]
"It is well documented and established that the concurrent administration of Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) and a Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide (GHRP-6, GHRP-2 or Hexarelin) results in synergistic release of GH from pituitary stores.
In other words if GHRH contributes a GH amount quantified as the number 2 and GHRPs contributed a GH amount quantified as the number 4 the total GH release is not additive (i.e. 2 + 4 = 6). Rather the whole is greater than the sum of the parts such that 2 + 4 = 10."
-DatBtru
im not sure if Dat would not like me posting this or the citing is incorrect but some one let me know if so and i will change it…
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
"It is well documented and established that the concurrent administration of Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) and a Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide (GHRP-6, GHRP-2 or Hexarelin) results in synergistic release of GH from pituitary stores.
In other words if GHRH contributes a GH amount quantified as the number 2 and GHRPs contributed a GH amount quantified as the number 4 the total GH release is not additive (i.e. 2 + 4 = 6). Rather the whole is greater than the sum of the parts such that 2 + 4 = 10."
-DatBtru
im not sure if Dat would not like me posting this or the citing is incorrect but some one let me know if so and i will change it…[/quote]
Lurx: I’m a member there, I just don’t post, I’ll have a read up when I get time mate, thanks.
@ budda no problem man
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
@ budda no problem man
[/quote]
Hey Lurx,
What sides are there with CJC, or with combining it with a GHRP? Do you notice anything you don’t like, or that is different?
I am stuck on just the GHRP…it doesn’t have any bad effects on me, and the only thing I need to take into concern is eating an hour before, or after. I try to keep the dose in middle AM, or middle PM, when eating is not going on close to it. That and it makes me sleep pretty well too.
In fact, I think I liked the GHRP 6 more than the GHRP 2. BUT, going to run another vial of GHRP 2 to see for sure. It goes so slowly , and it very hard to notice when using. BUT, I can say I am plenty strong, and that could be attributed to the GHRP 2. It has done nothing this vial for my tendonitis at all…and the GHRP 6 actually helped it. BUT, I lift heavier now…could be it. But still have not noticed or decided if one is better than other.
PS Two days ago I went to 2 doses a day, 200 mcg each. (GHRP 2)
i could take 300mg just CJC no dac(Mod GRF) alone with no sides… very user friendly.
why are you stuck on JUST G6? i dont see why, if you had the choice, you wouldnt add in GRF…
Lurxalot: Thanks
TX: Re the GHRP-6, I have heard BBB say this will help tendonitis, glad to hear recovery is going well.
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Lurxalot: Thanks
TX: Re the GHRP-6, I have heard BBB say this will help tendonitis, glad to hear recovery is going well.[/quote]
^yah anything that is increasing GH should help… and G6 + Mod GRF produces MUCH more GH than G6 alone
My biggest hangup is the scale. I am going to try and avoid it for a month…just go for size gains that I can see.
Stepped off GHRP for the weekend…no dose Sat, none today. Going to give it a break, and start Monday again…read somewhere by one of you guys that my body gets too used to it.
Funny thing tooo…I recall when I started GHRP, the dreams were vivid as heck ! Now, I can’t even remember the dreams, after about 6-7 weeks. I do know I am having them, cause I wake up from them, BUTTT, not as vivid. Good sleep though…
with GH, GHRP’s and GHRH’s the longer/more consistent you do them the better the effects are
[quote]Lurxalot wrote:
with GH, GHRP’s and GHRH’s the longer/more consistent you do them the better the effects are[/quote]
Thanks Lurx…I had been told that. Just impatient… 
GHRP and SLEEP Cycles
This is off Steroid…com I think…like a year and a half ago June.
Below is something I wrote explaining Slow Wave Sleep
SOrry…will try again…
Below is something I wrote explaining Slow Wave Sleep
Sorry…not working. WIll try to get it done later.
Oh well, regarding sleep…
I sleep very well with GHRP…well enough that I would probably just use if for that!
One day, when I decide to lay off, could pull back to 100 mcg once a day just for the sleep.
And keep in mind, if someone is reading this that wonders about it…I DON’T sleep all the
way through the night…I roll over about 3 times. But the sleep I get in those periods is
wonderful. You go into slow wave easily, and usually about 3-4 good solid cycles per night
that end with REM dreams.
It appears to me that when you sleep, there are four stages of NON REM…will call them 1,2,3,4.
Then, REM sleep. And the 3 and 4 stages are slow wave, which is a much deeper sleep. That leads
to the REM, which is where dreams happen. A complete cycle is between 90-110 minutes. I
probably get 4 cycles.
how long before bed is your last dose?