Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
If the guy is bigger and leaner than you, he is abusing them and you are just using them.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
I wonder how much gh he’s running to cause his face to look like that[/quote]
Very very far from abusing it.[/quote]
Appreciate you know him etc
but honestly don’t you think this is a bit naive - not just the GH but all the other gear?
they are all abusing the shit out of everything they can get their hands on
that is why they all look like aliens
if his genetics and/or response to drugs were far superior to other pros - wouldn’t he do even more drugs then?
he looks like an old man and is a pro in his early 20s
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^ he looks 50. He’s 25. most of those pictures he was closer to 20. Some people just look fucking old. I remember a kid when I was in the 8th grade who already had male pattern baldness, a full beard, and truly looked 30+ at age 14. I said in another thread that I see no reason to believe that drugs are related to AC’s ‘old face’. I could certainly be wrong, I just don’t see a good reason to make that assumption.[/quote]
he looks extremely old in his pictures he looks nowhere near 25
it is well known this is often linked to drugs
sure it could be just how he is
but he is in his early 20s, already a pro and looking insane so let’s just use some common sense
the guy is on mountains of drugs just like everyone at that level
to say he isn’t cos his genetics are so amazing is just a joke
at that level they are all very serious drug addicts willing to do fucking anything to look a bit bigger or leaner
that is my point concerning some of the “he isn’t on much” type comments
no i do not know him and no i am not hating - i want him to win lol
it is just common sense plus the opinion of a large number of competitors at this kind of level who ocassionally tell the truth
how did ronnie come from nowhere to dominate? he took fuckloads more drugs. dorian? the same
the answers is always more drugs at this level it’s not coconut oil or using chains and bands
i am only saying this because alot of guys on this board seem extremely naive/ignorant about this or want to actually believe it is because or peri nutrition or whatever
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He did add things for this prep
He isnt sponsored
Money doesnt fall from trees
Its all im going to say
Trust me when I say he is not abusing anything lol… will he in the future? Well I hope so cause I want to see him on the O stage
[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
If the guy is bigger and leaner than you, he is abusing them and you are just using them.[/quote]
Ha! QFT
The thing about AC looking ‘old’ isn’t so much that ‘some people just look old,’ IMO it’s more about how much he has ‘aged’ in recent time. There’s plenty of pics of him on his old thread here, he looks like a regular guy. To be fair there’s clearly dudes who are taking drugs who don’t look any worse age wise for doing so like Lesukov, so it probably is just a genetic thing, and AC was affected by it in his 20s instead of teens.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
edit: yolo is just a joke name i don’t like drake lol. it says alot about you that you take more drugs than this so resort to insulting me rather than explain tour position (cos you know you can’t)
please try and explain how more than trt is not abusive rather than look for insults
AC could play wolverine
im assuming AC is competing in the under 212 yeah?
that would mean he’s competing against Kevin English… should be interesting to see how he fares against a former “short” Mr. O
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
im assuming AC is competing in the under 212 yeah?
that would mean he’s competing against Kevin English… should be interesting to see how he fares against a former “short” Mr. O[/quote]
nop, open 
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
[/quote]
lolwut?
I don’t believe you understand the definition of the word abuse in general.
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
[/quote]
lolwut?
I don’t believe you understand the definition of the word abuse in general.[/quote]
a lot of people have different definitions…
-some believe it’s using more than your body naturally produces
-others believe that it’s the dose at which you start to harm yourself
I tend to agree with the latter
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
[/quote]
lolwut?
I don’t believe you understand the definition of the word abuse in general.[/quote]
a lot of people have different definitions…
-some believe it’s using more than your body naturally produces
-others believe that it’s the dose at which you start to harm yourself
I tend to agree with the latter[/quote]
As I said, I dont believe he understands the definition of the word itself, not in the context of roids.
BUT
I agree with the latter, using an amount that is harmful to you personally which I guess could change per person hence why putting a measurement on it would be stupid? (I know hee haw mcgraw regarding roids)
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
[/quote]
lolwut?
I don’t believe you understand the definition of the word abuse in general.[/quote]
a lot of people have different definitions…
-some believe it’s using more than your body naturally produces
-others believe that it’s the dose at which you start to harm yourself
I tend to agree with the latter[/quote]
but how and when do you define “begin to harm yourself” as that is another can of worms
personally i think it’s when you take more than your body naturally produces as that inherently makes things more dangerous and the more you take the more potential dangers there are
why rattlehead and marzouk want to cry about it is something i don’t understand - negative effects can be controlled but it is still abusive
@rattlehead: you are the one who doesn’t understand the term abuse you fool
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
[/quote]
lolwut?
I don’t believe you understand the definition of the word abuse in general.[/quote]
a lot of people have different definitions…
-some believe it’s using more than your body naturally produces
-others believe that it’s the dose at which you start to harm yourself
I tend to agree with the latter[/quote]
As I said, I dont believe he understands the definition of the word itself, not in the context of roids.
BUT
I agree with the latter, using an amount that is harmful to you personally which I guess could change per person hence why putting a measurement on it would be stupid? (I know hee haw mcgraw regarding roids)
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i know the meaning of the word abuse perfectly well you idiot
by definition more than trt is abusive
perhaps you are attaching emotion or morality or something to the term abuse probably as you know nothing on the subject
plenty of BBers take fuck loads of drugs and get no side effects or health issues they are still abusing drugs from a medical standpoint that is a fact and not an opinion
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
[/quote]
lolwut?
I don’t believe you understand the definition of the word abuse in general.[/quote]
a lot of people have different definitions…
-some believe it’s using more than your body naturally produces
-others believe that it’s the dose at which you start to harm yourself
I tend to agree with the latter[/quote]
Spot on, abuse is pretty much when it causes hard to yourself.
And as we know any more than a TRT dose of steroids makes ur nuts shrivel up and your skin fall off.
And i’m not upset, you’re just an idiot.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
[/quote]
lolwut?
I don’t believe you understand the definition of the word abuse in general.[/quote]
a lot of people have different definitions…
-some believe it’s using more than your body naturally produces
-others believe that it’s the dose at which you start to harm yourself
I tend to agree with the latter[/quote]
Spot on, abuse is pretty much when it causes hard to yourself.
And as we know any more than a TRT dose of steroids makes ur nuts shrivel up and your skin fall off.
And i’m not upset, you’re just an idiot. [/quote]
dude - i am the idiot???
you take roids and don’t have a fucking clue to watch your blood pressure!
you start your first cycle at 30% BF!
i could go on
lol
lol marzouk
so your blood pressure is 150/100 on your first cycle huh?
and you only got it checked cos walkaway told you to
you would have been oblivious otherwise
it is a shame you feel the need to post your opinion when you are a complete retard
people might read your posts and be influenced
but i am “the idiot”
so fat boy - so do you still think above trt is not abusive?
rolleyes
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Where is the line drawn between using “super” supps and abusing them?[/quote]
anything over a true TRT dose (a couple of hundred mg) is abuse
someone like ramy is likely using 6-8000mg just of test, tons of tren and other steroids and tons of gh and insulin [/quote]
Says who? you? anything more than a couple of hundred mg’s is abuse? Sorry i can take this serious from someone who has taken their screen name from a Drake song…[/quote]
dude it is just a fact it doesn’t matter if you take me seriously
don’t get upset just cos you take more
i don’t care what people do
but by definition - more than a trt dose is abuse
[/quote]
lolwut?
I don’t believe you understand the definition of the word abuse in general.[/quote]
a lot of people have different definitions…
-some believe it’s using more than your body naturally produces
-others believe that it’s the dose at which you start to harm yourself
I tend to agree with the latter[/quote]
Spot on, abuse is pretty much when it causes hard to yourself.
And as we know any more than a TRT dose of steroids makes ur nuts shrivel up and your skin fall off.
And i’m not upset, you’re just an idiot. [/quote]
dude - i am the idiot???
you take roids and don’t have a fucking clue to watch your blood pressure!
you start your first cycle at 30% BF!
i could go on
lol [/quote]
I think i was closer to 40% bf.