New to TRT - Regiment Question

I’ve been lurking quite a bit and it seems the experts are abound here. Here is my saga, any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Age 31
I’ve trained off and on. I’ve been stress eating the past 6 months and packed on the pounds…current 195 at 5’8.5"

I was always chubby growing up and was not active (thanks to computers)

Anyway…my first test results were:
T-Total: 443 nd/dL
T-Free 11.8 pg/mL

I started seeing a quack naturpath who started me on just 150mg weekly of test cypionate.

Then I started doing my own research, found this site, etc.

I have a followup panel done, this time with estrogen and other stuff measured:
Thyroid is fine
Estradiol 32.9 pg/mL
Test-Total 753 ng/dL

My achy shrinking balls got me concerned and doing more research. The NMD wasn’t any help when I pitched the idea of hcg and arimidex, so I kept looking. I found a company that refers you to a local doc and offers this regimen (at “compounding pharmacy” prices of course).

My primary concerns (other than getting my fat ass away from the syndrome-x line) is maintaining my fertility and keeping that libido up (and keeping my balls healthy, large, and ready for action hehe). I started looking at TRT because my libido took a shit after I started taking Zoloft (which I don’t think I’ll be able to go off).

T-Injection (twice weekly)
HCG injections
Clomid capsules
Anastrazol 0.25 mg

All totaled I think after the initial doc visit it’s about $300+ a month, dunno if that is average or not, but again, they hook you into using their pharmacy.

Thoughts? Am I on the right path?

You are talking about a standard anti-aging doctor with their standard pharmacies that they lock you into using. For the record, the price you are paying aren’t “compounding pharmacy prices”…they are over-inflated prices that you find at typical anti-aging doctor affiliated pharmacies. Real compounding pharmacies are no different than standard pharmacies, and take insurance.

Your $300+ a month quote is probably par for the course for these places. I have heard some people have good luck getting their insurance to cover some of the meds, doctor visits, or lab works, but it is much cheaper to just find a TRT friendly doctor that isn’t affiliated with one of these big clinics.

Ask your real local compounding pharmacy for references to TRT friendly docs. Tell them the kinds of meds you are looking for.

[quote]cmonster wrote:
I’ve been lurking quite a bit and it seems the experts are abound here. Here is my saga, any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Age 31
I’ve trained off and on. I’ve been stress eating the past 6 months and packed on the pounds…current 195 at 5’8.5"

I was always chubby growing up and was not active (thanks to computers)

Anyway…my first test results were:
T-Total: 443 nd/dL
T-Free 11.8 pg/mL

I started seeing a quack naturpath who started me on just 150mg weekly of test cypionate.

Then I started doing my own research, found this site, etc.

I have a followup panel done, this time with estrogen and other stuff measured:
Thyroid is fine
Estradiol 32.9 pg/mL
Test-Total 753 ng/dL

My achy shrinking balls got me concerned and doing more research. The NMD wasn’t any help when I pitched the idea of hcg and arimidex, so I kept looking. I found a company that refers you to a local doc and offers this regimen (at “compounding pharmacy” prices of course).

My primary concerns (other than getting my fat ass away from the syndrome-x line) is maintaining my fertility and keeping that libido up (and keeping my balls healthy, large, and ready for action hehe). I started looking at TRT because my libido took a shit after I started taking Zoloft (which I don’t think I’ll be able to go off).

T-Injection (twice weekly)
HCG injections
Clomid capsules
Anastrazol 0.25 mg

All totaled I think after the initial doc visit it’s about $300+ a month, dunno if that is average or not, but again, they hook you into using their pharmacy.

Thoughts? Am I on the right path?[/quote]
YOU DO NOT DO CLOMID AND HCG TOGETHER that is just not proper practice and this guy is a complete idiot and waste of money. Like many other’s that have came to us. They were spending 700 every 2.5 months. I was like you pay me that and I will even do your nutritrional program for ya LOL. Yep and then they take you to the cleaner. I work with an MD that one of the best in the business and takes many different insurances so it might be something worth looking into to…

[quote]
YOU DO NOT DO CLOMID AND HCG TOGETHER that is just not proper practice and this guy is a complete idiot and waste of money. Like many other’s that have came to us. They were spending 700 every 2.5 months. I was like you pay me that and I will even do your nutritrional program for ya LOL. Yep and then they take you to the cleaner. I work with an MD that one of the best in the business and takes many different insurances so it might be something worth looking into to…[/quote]

Really? He said you do hcg and clomid in order to preserve fertility. How come you don’t want to mix those?

There is so much contradictory information out there, and I’m sitting here with achy balls trying to sort it out.

My thoughts at this point (as I am still just on only test cyp) is to get some hcg, get back to my normal levels, then basically start over once I find the right dr. to work with.

What is this doc you are referring to? Do they works with patients over the phone? Can you PM me that info?

HCG preserves fertility. It mimics LH which tells your testicles to keep producing. I am not versed on Clomid, but HCG seems to be enough for most people.

Call around to a couple of local compounding pharmacies and ask for referrals to a knowledgeable HRT doc.

How much Anastrazol are you on? .25mg EOD? .25mg weekly?

How much HCG are you taking? how often?

Are you any other supplements?

Have you tested for Vit D, Cortisol, Thyroid, Ferritin, etc.?

most Docs require at least one in person visit to establish a formal relationship. Due to Medical regulations, Medical Practice requirements, Malpractice insurance mandates or something I assume.

my posts don’t show up for 10 minutes even with refreshing, but when I repost, both posts show up. very weird.

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Ask your real local compounding pharmacy for references to TRT friendly docs. Tell them the kinds of meds you are looking for. [/quote]

Did this, got an appt tomorrow. Went and bitched out the NMD which made me feel a little better for the time being. Thanks for the tip!

[quote]cmonster wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Ask your real local compounding pharmacy for references to TRT friendly docs. Tell them the kinds of meds you are looking for. [/quote]

Did this, got an appt tomorrow. Went and bitched out the NMD which made me feel a little better for the time being. Thanks for the tip![/quote]

One of the best dr’s in the USA is located out side philadelphia PA. Alot of guys are here have been to him and have had great success. He may take ones insurance as well. Pm me for details.