I just go to cvs and get a sports physical on their form. Doesn’t have to be defy’s.
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If you don’t mind me asking what protocol do you find that works best for you?
My doctor also has me taking these what exactly do they do for you?
Omg lol I am with them as well. Ok look it seems like a lot of us have seen the same doctors but yet were all still here kind of trying to still figure things out. Im still with DEFY but they couldn’t seem to helpmeet get past certain barriers so thats why join Marks practice non of this makes sense I have been at this for years trying to figure how to get on a stable protocol so I can finally get back to my normal life and things always start to look like I will never get back to a normal life as a 31 yr old guy. I don’t understand this why is this so frekain hard to figure out. I have tried everything out there and im just so sick of this. Do you guys even believe that testosterone is the problem because im starting to feel like its not because I have tried multiple meds with multiple doagses with different doctors and I have not once even gain my sensitivity back and I still struggle sometimes to keep a errection even with 20mg of cialis. Im over this crap to be honest. I just need a doctor that knows what there doing. This should be this hard. Im in the medical field my self. Im a RN and I have never seen anything this difficult to figure out.
Im with Gorda. What regimen are you on now. I was just on HCG and T-CYP and it worked for like 4 months and then all of a sudden stop working. DEFY couldn’t help me figure out why every time I started a new regimen with in 3 to 4 months it would stop working for me so I decided to go with Gordan and he presented me with something Ive never tried before. He wanted me off of HCGand put me on my current regimen. Now Idk what todo cause obviously it did not work for you guys so now I feel like I just wasted time and money when at the end of the day all I want todo is get better
What is your current protocol?
Let me ask everyone this how much actual improvement have you guys seen using testosterone do you honestly feel like you are back to your normal selves before you ever had any testosterone problems?
Has anyone out there been on the same regimen for a couple of years because for me every time I find something that works for me its just a matter of months until everything that feels good starts to diminish
I will for sure run labs. Im curious my self to see how this has affected me I don’t think its working for me I still don’t feel all that well which leads me to ho this next convo is going to go with him.
Another thing I hear a lot of people say you have to give these meds weeks to feel affects. lets talk about this these are the only meds that I have ever heard that you have to give weeks to work. I have never have had a patient come into the hospital and me tell them they are going to get meds but it will take weeks to work. When I have usually found a regimen that means me feel good it usually by the next day I can see its going to work for a while. A lot of people on this forum call this the honeymoon phase and I have no idea where that came from. Weather you taking something in the form of a pill or a injection I do not see in what way It takes weeks to build up in your blood stream unless your are absolutely depleted of testosterone in your blood stream .Can anyone explain this to me
Maybe you e already answered this (I didn’t go back and read the entire thread), but what does your diet and exercise routine look like?
“Feeling good”, doesn’t just happen, and will NEVER happen if the only remedy you have is optimizing hormones. The only thing this does is gives your body the tools it needs to recover. There is much more work to be done on your part to provide the proper materials and labor.
Also, remember that if you’re chasing the feel good, you’re chasing a ghost. Does that mean you never feel good? No, but what it does mean is that, even when you are completely on the right track, sometimes you’re just not going to feel great. You don’t achieve utopia and stay there. Save that pipe dream for the afterlife.
In the meantime, take life one day at a time and make the best you can out of whatever THIS day throws at you.
Significant improvement in all the usual areas, lost fat, gained strength, energy, libido, etc.
Yes, for six years, going on seven with the testosterone. Used AI for three years, felt fine with it, discontinued it after attending Neal Rouzier’s programs and have do well without it for three years. About 85% of my patients have been on the same protocol for years.
A three month experiment with an every two and a half day schedule was unremarkable, I felt no difference.
200mg week has me better than I could ever imagined I could have been when I started TRT both mentally & physically. It’s like I went from being in a wheel chair to having the sickest bionic legs and fucking normal people up in the Olympics. I’m not overselling either. It’s been that much of a change. Granted I was retarded for a while and that was the worst period ever but after I stopped listening to the usual chorus of folks that are miserable themselves but yet give advice like it’s gospel I figured out the secret to TRT. The secret is “no one fucking knows what works for you” so I started trial and error and figured the shit out myself. I did every 20mg dosage increment and injection frequency and like with everything in life it happened to be the last one I tried. From then on it’s been a life I wake up thanking the (enter your God here) every morning for and believe me I was in a worse place than likely anyone here before TRT.
That all said, everyone I know personally that has tried 200mg and stayed on it for 6 months is happy.
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Should I just increase to 200mg a week the next month and see what happens?
Fuck I’m already shut down so can I permanently mess anything up
I would really eliminate all the supplements. Just inject Testosterone. That’s it. And see what happens after a couple of months.
Supplements do cause issues.
I remember taking dhea and or preg and got bloating. Stopped it problem solved.
I took vit b12 in the morning could not sleep at night even with melatonin. Stopped b12 and I can sleep.
I would stop supplements. Maybe just take a multi vitamin to start.
Any medications you take?
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185mg a week. I have been running once a week for a while now, and it seems to boost libido a little over twice a week - for me. My endo would like me to try 160mg a week, and I will probably give it a go to see. 200mg didn’t feel any different, but my numbers were above range and the endo was worried about HCT. I understand some guys would get all bent at this point about whether or not HCT matters, but seeing as it doesn’t make a bit of difference in how I feel so far it’s just working against myself to worry about it.
I’m still pretty much following the same protocol that Dr. G put me on about 8 years ago. The only difference are:
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Injections are still E3D.
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Switched from blended T to straight T-cyp. I doubt that changed anything.
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I bumped up my E3D dose from 40mg (93mg/week) to 54mg (126mg/week).
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I bumped up my HCG from 150 IU MWF (450 IU/week) to 450 IU E3D (1050 IU/week).
I used the results of a dose-response experiment to dial in on my new standard dose. This protocol puts my Free T at about the upper end of the normal range for a 20-30 year old guy. This seems to work well for me to abate all low T symptoms.
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For me, the difference was perceivable overnight and continued to get better with time. After about a year I felts pretty stable. I’ve been doing this for over 8 years. With only the tweaks to the protocol that I mentioned in my prior post. My TRT philosophy is to make the protocol simple and sustainable over the long haul.
Personally, I would not recommend jumping to a higher dose without interim steps and assessments, but that’s a decision you must make. Not everyone has the patience or money (for out of pocket labs) to do what i did in my dose-response experiment. See the graph below for my approach to optimizing my dose in case you’ve missed in in prior posts.
Looks like you need to start supplementing D3.