The bean puree actually was a result of cooking my own navy beans. They were then put in a blender with some sundried tomatos and such (Chef Lisa M’s recipie). Also, I think that kidney beans pose the least problems as far as gas goes so I think my next meal plan will feature them again.
Thanks a bunch for looking out for me and emailing GlaxoSmithKlein. Make sure to keep me posted. Oh and today was my last day with Beano.
This weekend was the first one that I really went off of my program but I feel it was well worth it and justified. A couple of really good friends of mine and my girlfriend’s got married (finally after about 7 years of dating).
My gf was in the wedding so we had the rehearsal dinner Fri and the actually wedding meal Sat. Let’s just say lots of pizza, pasta, and chocolate made up these two meals ;-). Oh and alcohol.
I have some making up to do for it but weddings are one area where I feel justified in just letting go and celebrating.
The other problem, however, was that I didn’t get any measurements Friday morning (pre cheats) as I forgot the measurement tools at home. My weight, however, was 185 but I have no real way of figuring out the reasoning behind it so it looks like this Friday’s measurements will have to do.
Also, did you hear anything from the Bean-o people?
P.S. My Sat static state cardio run went great. 4 miles in 45 min (including 5 warm-up and 5 cool-down).
My Sat static state cardio run went great. 4 miles in 45 min (including 5 warm-up and 5 cool-down).
Impressive! You’re going to be in great shape for running everyone else into the ground. (big grin)
Agreed on the wedding!!! Good for you you!!!
I have not heard from the Bean-o people!!! Would you do me a favor and go to the Bean-o web site and send them an email, too?
Don’t worry about the numbers. We’ll compare this week’s numbers to two weeks ago.
Wow, what a busy week. I have been running a lot of errands and getting things done around the house that I had put off for wayyy too long.
Terry- I emailed the Bean-o people so hopefully one of us will get a response from them. It would be nice to know what was going on. Workouts and meals are going great right now. I simplified my meals for the week so that I was actually able to cook all of them between Sunday and Monday evening. Just marinated chicken/turkey, straight up steak, fish etc. Very simple but still tasty.
I am interested to see the numbers this week just to see where I am at. As far as appearance goes, I still feel pretty much where I was at before and my clothing fits nicely.
Oh, speaking of which. When I went to buy a new dress shirt to go with my newly altered suit (looks great) I dropped 1/2 to 1 in, depending on brand, in my neck size. The new shirts look great too! Thank you again for all the help Terry.
A few more questions that I thought of today.
First, when using a treat meal you are supposed to wait until you are hungry again to eat. Say one of the meals I miss has my essential fish oil/flax oil combo in it. Should I still have the fish oil/flax oil or just remove that from the day’s plan?
Secondly, how long should one be attempting to loose fat for. I was under the impression that when doing so it is a good idea to bring yourself back up to maintenance for a week or so in order to let your body reset. How often should this be done, if at all?
Finally, you mentioned that you might know someone who could help set up programs. In about 3 weeks I will be coming to the end of Chad Waterbury’s TBT program. Depending on your answers to the above questions, I believe my next program should still focus on muscle maintenance and fat loss. I am hoping to incorporate some increases in explosive power and endurance if possible for paintball. Let me know what you think.
Thanks Terry 
And now for the time you have ALL been waiting for (well I know I was)…the numbers!
Date:…05/26…06/01 …06/08…06/22
Accu…14mm…12mm…11mm…10.5mm
Scale:.183.5…183.0…182.0…181.0
Arm:…33…30…32…33
Chest:…98…98…101…99
Waist:…97…96…96…95
Butt:…104…103…103…102
Thigh:…62…61…59…60
Calf:…40…41… 39…40
Navel…N/a…93…92…94
Honestly, I am really surprised at these results. Not only because the navel measurement went up so much (who knows) but because the scale, accu, and waist measurements went down. This is despite the double super treat meals this past weekend. Perhaps the extra running has paid off ;-). I am quite happy with the numbers.
On a side note, the numbers that I got this morning really motivated my lifting and today I was able to do 2x12 at 205 for deadlifts with excellent form (I am a stickler about it). There were even a couple left in the tank after I was done.
T2P, I heard back from the Bean-O people. I’ll PM you the email they sent me. They want you to give them a call.
Oh, speaking of which. When I went to buy a new dress shirt to go with my newly altered suit (looks great) I dropped 1/2 to 1 in, depending on brand, in my neck size. The new shirts look great too!
Things are progressing nicely, yes!!! Isn’t it a great time of year to be getting in shape? (grin)
First, when using a treat meal you are supposed to wait until you are hungry again to eat. Say one of the meals I miss has my essential fish oil/flax oil combo in it. Should I still have the fish oil/flax oil or just remove that from the day’s plan?
Either way. You’re talking about 6 days of hitting your numbers, getting in your good fats and your protein and 1 day out of the week that you don’t. You’ll be fine either way.
how long should one be attempting to loose fat for. I was under the impression that when doing so it is a good idea to bring yourself back up to maintenance for a week or so in order to let your body reset. How often should this be done, if at all?
It’s a good idea to bring yourself up to maintenance before bulking. You don’t need to break up cutting cycles to go to maintenance … unless mentally you just need a break.
Finally, you mentioned that you might know someone who could help set up programs. In about 3 weeks I will be coming to the end of Chad Waterbury’s TBT program. Depending on your answers to the above questions, I believe my next program should still focus on muscle maintenance and fat loss. I am hoping to incorporate some increases in explosive power and endurance if possible for paintball. Let me know what you think.
The only people I know that set up programs are T-Nation contributors. There are a number of excellent programs published on the site. But if you’re looking for something customized and specific to your needs, you’d have to contact one of them directly.
I’m happy with the results, too! (grin) If you look at all of your measurements and how they trend, you see some that are obviously human error. What I see and like is the skinfold measurements going down a lot more quickly than scale weight. You’ve put on some muscle and lost some fat … that and your lifts/pulls don’t seem to be suffering! (grin)
Thank you for the great responses Terry. I just can not wait until I get to a more stable body type to go out and replenish my wardrobe. I have been putting it off for that very reason and hate not having great clothes.
I got your PM but did not see anything from the Bean-O people. Just wanted to make sure you didn’t forget.
As for the workout program, I was not clear on what I meant. Basically I really like a lot of the premade programs that are on here but am uncertain about what to select in order to maximize fat loss, explosiveness, and endurance. Or if that is even possible to do all of them at once. So more suggestions than anything. I will post that in another area though too.
Terry I am thinking of trying something new instead of protein pancakes. Muffins really struck me as a good alternative for a bit and here is a recipe that a kind gent gave me. I would drop the nuts out so it was carbs and protein with low fat. If the ingredients are ok I have a questions. would the complex carbs come from the whole wheat flour, ap flour, oat bran, and brown sugar? Let me know what you think.
6 muffins
1/2 cup whole wheat flour
1/4 cup AP flour
1/2 cup oat bran
2 scoops vanilla protein powder
1 tsp cinnamon
1 tsp baking powder
1/2 tsp baking soda
1/8 tsp salt
1 eggs
1/2 egg white
? + 1/6 cup buttermilk (you can use milk or low carb milk, but reduce to 1/2 + 1/8 cup)
1/4 cup packed brown sugar
1 Tbsp Light olive oil (Preferred) or canola oil
1/2 cup dried fruit (any) Peaches in this case
1/4 cup chopped nuts (any) none in this case
As a note. I would use the low carb milk and light flavored olive oil.
As for the workout program, I was not clear on what I meant. Basically I really like a lot of the premade programs that are on here but am uncertain about what to select in order to maximize fat loss, explosiveness, and endurance. Or if that is even possible to do all of them at once. So more suggestions than anything. I will post that in another area though too.
The purpose of resistance training is not to lose fat. It’s to try and hold onto the LBM you have … or replace the tiny amounts that are typically lost when dieting. Now, f while dieting at a caloric deficit you were to prioritize on weak body parts, I do feel you could bring them up to some degree.
In a nut shell, weight loss is about holding onto the LBM you have, so that any weight lost is FAT!!! The part resistance training plays in that equation or that stated goal is strictly one of preserving/protecting/replacing LBM.
With all that said, there are programs that are designed to maximize fat loss. It might be worth searching/researching or even starting a thread to ask for people’s recommendations. My area of expertise is more in the area of diet, than resistance training.
The only warning or caveat that I would make is that you’re not eating a lot of carbs, so some programs may be a bit too demanding … either that, or you may need to iincrease the number of carbs you are consuming PWO if you notice that you are not recovering well, have low energy or no enthusiasm for training. Your carbohydrate intake and the type of workout you do (and your activity level in general) need to match up.
I got your PM but did not see anything from the Bean-O people. Just wanted to make sure you didn’t forget.
Oops! (grin) I did forget. PM w/ email sent.
Re the muffins, I’d just say that in general, I discourage items with flour (a processed carb) in them. Flaxseed muffins are okay because there’s no flour in the recipe, just the ground up flax seeds. As an example, I discourage bread. The only bread I allow/recommend is whole grain sprouted breads like the Ezekial line of breads … and then only in your PWO meal.
That said, you’re making slow and steady progress towards your goals, so the other part of me that likes to argue with myself says I should just look the other way. (grin)
Why don’t you send Chef Lisa Marie a PM and see if she’d help you make your recipe more diet friendly.
Adjusted or not, though, so long as you continue to make progress, my vote goes with allowing you to make these types of decisions. If a couple of weeks go by and you realize you’re not making progress, then the muffins and even the pancakes probably need to go.
Great answer to the program selection Terry. It is definitely true that resistance training is a means to prevent muscle loss while in a caloretic deficit. I actually started a thread up (that I have yet to respond to, shamefully) a few days ago inquiring into such programs. The feedback is great so far I just need to look into it more.
For the Bean-0 email, thank you and I will followup with them. I did, however, possibly find one cause to the problem. Do you remember how I mentioned that kidney beans did not have hardly any effect on me? Well, apparently different varieties of beans have varying levels of impact on the digestive system. Ones such as black beans and kidney beans (the two I had eaten on this program) have almost neglegable effects. Those such as Navy beans (used in the bean puree) contain things that can trigger more severe reactions. It could be that it was not even related to the bean-o and i was instead reacting to the beans!
Finally, the muffins. Ah yes, oh sweet little carbs of mine. I think what I am going to do is try out the muffins for two weeks and track the progress. The reason for this is that I believe that knowing how the flour and such effect my body individually will benefit me more over the course of a lifetime at the possible cost of two weeks progress.
When you mentioned cutting them out if progress slowed and possibly the pancakes as well, why the pancakes? They are made of oats, eggs, and cottage cheese. Is this because they go through a blender when you make them which causes them to become a processed carb?
Finally, the muffins. Ah yes, oh sweet little carbs of mine. I think what I am going to do is try out the muffins for two weeks and track the progress. The reason for this is that I believe that knowing how the flour and such effect my body individually will benefit me more over the course of a lifetime at the possible cost of two weeks progress.
I REALLY like your logic on this one, T2P! It’s the sort of experimenting and logic I use on my own body.
When you mentioned cutting them out if progress slowed and possibly the pancakes as well, why the pancakes? They are made of oats, eggs, and cottage cheese. Is this because they go through a blender when you make them which causes them to become a processed carb?
Ooops, #2. (grin) I think I assumed they had some flour in 'em. Shame on me for ASSuming!
You’re making good progress and good decision, T2P!!! Methinks you’re close to graduating. (big grin)
Ooooo graduation. Does that mean I get a present :- P? A student with motivation but no guide can still get lost so thank you very much to you too Terry.
I am excited to get those numbers tomorrow to see where I am at. As usual, I will try to post them here by the end of the day.
Terry,
As I am going to use the muffins for PWO and am trying to work out the numbers, which ingredients would make up the complex carbohydrate portion? The flours only?
Subtract the fiber and count only Net Carbs.
Net Carbs (g) = Total Carbs (g) minus Fiber Carbs (g)
Add in more starchy carbs from the approved list if you run short.
And thanks for the kind words! You made it easy. You’re an amazingly quick study.
[quote]Tampa-Terry wrote:
Subtract the fiber and count only Net Carbs.
Net Carbs (g) = Total Carbs (g) minus Fiber Carbs (g)
Add in more starchy carbs from the approved list if you run short.
And thanks for the kind words! You made it easy. You’re an amazingly quick study.[/quote]
Is this how it works with all carbs. For example, when limiting carb intake during a fat meal to less than 10g (veg excluded) is that only 10g net?
Yup! I really prefer to give people credit for the fiber they consume and just count the carbs tht affect blood sugar and insulin.
[quote]Tampa-Terry wrote:
Yup! I really prefer to give people credit for the fiber they consume and just count the carbs that affect blood sugar and insulin. [/quote]
Nice, I have been shorting myself on PWO carbs then ;-). Anyhow, here are the measurements I took today. All in all they are not bad. No real improvements (actually they are almost exactly the same) so we will have to see if gains return after next week otherwise out go the muffins!
The significantly decreased navel measurement is probably due to tense abs from an isolated ab workout that I did Wed when I felt like I had a little more gas to burn.
As it has been about 6 weeks since I had done that they are feeling it. Otherwise it is a correction from last apparent user error reading.
For the accumeasure reading I kept getting in the 10mm-10.5mm range (most were on the lower end) but I just rounded it up to the higher 10.5mm.
Date:…05/26…06/01 …06/08…06/22…06/29
Accu…14mm…12mm…11mm…10.5mm…10.5mm
Scale:.183.5…183.0…182.0…181.0…181.5
Arm:…33…30…32…33…33
Chest:…98…98…101…99…98
Waist:…97…96…96…95…95
Butt:…104…103…103…102…102
Thigh:…62…61…59…60…60
Calf:…40…41… 39…40…40
Navel…N/a…93…92…94…91
Anyhow, here are the measurements I took today. All in all they are not bad. No real improvements (actually they are almost exactly the same) so we will have to see if gains return after next week otherwise out go the muffins!
Exactly!!! I can’t WAIT to see what your numbers look like this week. That waist measurement is really interesting. (grin)
Very nice!!! (grin)