[quote]OldGoat wrote:
Wait, isn’t 50 OVER 35? [/quote]
Only in North America
I’m 57. Been lifting on and off since 30.
The last few years I’ve become a lot more serious about lifting and I have gotten stronger for it.
Doing Boris Sheiko workouts because I love the structure of it. Your workout is there for you to accomplish.
Plus, I love Deadlifting and am getting a good appreciation for Squats.
I will substitute Overhead Presses and Power Cleans for Bench Presses and Good Mornings some of the times because I like doing them too.
On alternate days I do Crossfit and/or Cardio.
I am getting Old Kicking and Screaming all the way. I work with a bunch of guys who are physical wrecks who don’t even try. They are my inspiration to get up at 4am and get my butt to the gym because I don’t want to be anything like they are.
An over 50 forum may also help to keep me going. There is after all power in numbers.
I was hoping this could’ve been a place where training, diet, and supplementation strategies of the older lifter could be discussed. The particulars not the philosophy. For example I recently trained my back this is what I did:
chins assisted 5x5-8
bent over rows 5x5-10 (135,185,205,225,240)
DB rows 5x5-10 (60,75,90,100,110)
seated cable 5x8-10 (120,130,140,160,160)
pulldowns 5x8-10 (110,120,130,150,150)
post workout meal: 3 poached eggs,skirt steak,wheat toast and OJ
Anyone else care to share?
[quote]Demo man wrote:
I was hoping this could’ve been a place where training, diet, and supplementation strategies of the older lifter could be discussed. The particulars not the philosophy. For example I recently trained my back this is what I did:
chins assisted 5x5-8
bent over rows 5x5-10 (135,185,205,225,240)
DB rows 5x5-10 (60,75,90,100,110)
seated cable 5x8-10 (120,130,140,160,160)
pulldowns 5x8-10 (110,120,130,150,150)
post workout meal: 3 poached eggs,skirt steak,wheat toast and OJ
Anyone else care to share?[/quote]
Why not make a thread about it? If there are enough 50+ interested in a forum then the thread should be really busy and you can show it to the mods as proof. If theres not a lot of activity in the thread then theres probably not going to be a lot in a forum.
[quote]mcjake401 wrote:
I’m 57. Been lifting on and off since 30.
The last few years I’ve become a lot more serious about lifting and I have gotten stronger for it.
Doing Boris Sheiko workouts because I love the structure of it. Your workout is there for you to accomplish.
Plus, I love Deadlifting and am getting a good appreciation for Squats.
I will substitute Overhead Presses and Power Cleans for Bench Presses and Good Mornings some of the times because I like doing them too.
On alternate days I do Crossfit and/or Cardio.
I am getting Old Kicking and Screaming all the way. I work with a bunch of guys who are physical wrecks who don’t even try. They are my inspiration to get up at 4am and get my butt to the gym because I don’t want to be anything like they are.
An over 50 forum may also help to keep me going. There is after all power in numbers.[/quote]
But that is the point, start a log in the over 35, I can guarantee you will get feedback and help on any questions. This forum does not have the “issues” that some of the other forums have.
I do 5/3/1 and CF on cardio days, believe me you are not alone.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]Demo man wrote:
I was hoping this could’ve been a place where training, diet, and supplementation strategies of the older lifter could be discussed. The particulars not the philosophy. For example I recently trained my back this is what I did:
chins assisted 5x5-8
bent over rows 5x5-10 (135,185,205,225,240)
DB rows 5x5-10 (60,75,90,100,110)
seated cable 5x8-10 (120,130,140,160,160)
pulldowns 5x8-10 (110,120,130,150,150)
post workout meal: 3 poached eggs,skirt steak,wheat toast and OJ
Anyone else care to share?[/quote]
Why not make a thread about it? If there are enough 50+ interested in a forum then the thread should be really busy and you can show it to the mods as proof. If theres not a lot of activity in the thread then theres probably not going to be a lot in a forum.
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Agreed, if you want feed back then start a thread/log.
I dont understand guys, you want something but you have not even tried to put yourself out there? Joe, Pete, Matty, Me, Dday, (if I forgot someone then I am truly sorry) and a few new guys we all visit the thread/logs and we all love to talk about being an older lifter.
What seems to be the problem?
I’m over 50. I still deadlift, squat, bench, overhead press. Yes, there is a difference between 35 and 50. I think it can be overcome and I agree it would be nice to talk to other guys and gals in the same situation.
Reading the Paul Carter blog, and his pov is that the strength prime is in the late 30’s to mid 40’s. I will extrapolate from that and say that his view is that over 50 is different.
In all honesty, I think those of us making strength gains (I include myself here) as we approach 50 and over, are probably doing so because strength was not our main focus in an earlier time.
In general of course. There are always exceptions.
[quote]FlaBouy wrote:
Didn’t start this racket UNTIL I turned 50… the heaviest thing I ever lifted since the eighties, was a case of beer…
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Yeah, me too. I started lifting at 50 and was going pretty good until 2 years ago. I’m 58 now, and it seems as if I physically deteriorated at an alarming rate these past 18 months. My health isn’t what it used to be even at 55.
Guess all the bad things I did finally caught up with me 
Maybe I would start a log if there was an over 50 lifter, maybe not. I don’t want to be laughed at by all you under 55 whippersnappers. I get enough of that in real life.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
I’m 58 now[/quote]
and full of AWESOME!
I’m 55. I honestly don’t know how to relate to this. Everyone keeps saying how easy it is to gain at 30 and you slow down by 50. Twice BW squat, 1.5 BW bench, etc, are supposed to be the normal baseline by which we judge performance over 50. That just has no reality to me.
When I was young (in teens), I wanted strength in the worst way. Did calisthenics - nothing. Lifted in my 20’s . . . I stayed weak. Lifted in my 30’s . . . stayed weak. Lifted in my 40’s . . . got a bit less weak. Couldn’t deadlift my own bodyweight until about 5 years ago.
So what will an Over 50 forum do? Tell me things are going to get even worse still? I can’t work with that. I feel like I’m just beginning and have so far to go.
Yes, my body has done annoying things in the past few years, but I’ve learned to work around them. All I’m interested in is how to start here and gain, gain, gain?
To be honest, I feel best around the 30 somethings who don’t notice my wrinkles and greying hair and treat me like one of their own.
[quote]punnyguy wrote:
Reading the Paul Carter blog, and his pov is that the strength prime is in the late 30’s to mid 40’s. I will extrapolate from that and say that his view is that over 50 is different.
In all honesty, I think those of us making strength gains (I include myself here) as we approach 50 and over, are probably doing so because strength was not our main focus in an earlier time.
In general of course. There are always exceptions.[/quote]
Right on the money…if you started training at a young age, you definitely notice the decline in strength and RECOVERY as you age. If you don’t start training until middle or late 40’s, you can’t compare “now & then”!
HEY GUYS
SURE GLAD I FOUND THIS SITE.IM 51 AND HAVE BEEN LIFTING FOR 30 YRS,IT BECAME MY HOBBY.ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IVE FOUND IS THAT WHEN I TURNED 50 I WANTED TO GET SERIOUS WITH IT,I GUESS RATHER LATE THEN NEVER.I ALSO FOUND OUT I HAVE LOW T ,WHICH I COULD HAVE HAD SINCE MY 20 S.I’D SURE LIKE TO HEAR FROM OTHERS ABOUT THERE TRAINING,SUPPLEMENTS,AND IDEAS,THANKS FOR LETTING ME SHARE.
JUST FINISHED A COUPLE MONTHS OF 5X5 STRONGLIFTS, MON Squat 5x5,Bench Press 5x5 ,ROW 5X5 ,WED SQUAT 5X5, OVER HEAD PRESS 5X5, Deadlift 1x5 ,FRI SAME AS MON,MON SAME AS WED.STARTED LIGHT OF COURSE TO WORK INTO IT.LAST NUMBERS WERE 275 SQUAT,245 BENCH,345 DEADLIFT,130 OVERHEAD PRESS,205 ROW.I FOUND THAT WHAT TOOK THE WORST TOLL WAS MY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM,ITS A GREAT ROUTINE,MY PROBLEM WAS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I NEVER SQUATED ALOT OR DEADLIFTED,AS THE NUMBERS SHOW.IM DELOADING NOW AS THEY CALL IT (BASICLY LIGHTENING THE LOAD) FOR A FEW WEEKS THEN WILL START A LITTLE LIGHTER AND TRY TO PROGRESS,JUST THOUGHT ID PASS ON A GOOD WORKOUT.
At 54 i can tell you the more you think about your age the older you get. I started training the year my son was born, who is now 13. I know started late right. The point is I am around people who have children my sons age, and are 20 years younger, and they have little to no success keeping up with my training.
I am 5’9", 180lbs and in a gym at least 4 to 5 days a week. I have no interest in letting an age get in my way. As the others have said its attitude, attitude, attitude. Be smart, keep training, and forget about age, it will only hold you back.
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I’m 58 now, and it seems as if I physically deteriorated at an alarming rate these past 18 months. My health isn’t what it used to be even at 55.
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Have not posted here in years, not since Carl Darby stopped chasing Masters WRs. I think our experiences are reflected by if you lifted when young or not. I competed in OL and PL in my teens and 20s. I am close to my best PL lifts (except bench) but train much smarter now and do it at around 20 kgs extra bodyweight. My shoulders however are big issue.
I started throwing at 50 and compete in masters meets (got 7th at World Indoors O/55 in Jyvaskyla Finland last April). In masters throws you see a very big difference in 15 years. In the over 45s guys are still built, one guy had a 160kg bench x 4, some very big guys. In the M/50 still some very well built men. M/55 the big guys look a little soft and the rest look smnaller, in the M/60 the big guys are very few and the best throwers are all leaner. (the weights go from 35lbs at 45 to 25lb at 50 and 20lb at 60, so speed is more important than strength. The other factor is the big guys are having a lot more health issues.
Gary John made a statement I like “50 year old guys fall in a crater” , and for almost everyone I compete with at some point in the 50s what is a small decline takes a step off the cliff, and this is for people who train.
recovery is hard, over use injuries are inevitable, maucle mass harder to retain, mobilty harder to archieve, and you get dumb injuries (I did an achilles walking on a treadmill at incline - yes can power clean 110kgs, but a 15 deg angle incline did me in - dumb injuries)
Right now I want to still compete but changed sports for a few years. Giving my throwing body a rest and gone back to PL (sort of) as I need more mass to be able to throw as well as I used you in the future.
oh and used to post as GMH454
Been at T Nation for ever, I’m 56 as of July, and lift most of the time 5 days a week. Always start with 3 sets of 10 pullups. Occasionally I’ll add sets of weighted 35lb. I’m 5’10" 190 lb. I’ve used and logged most of my workouts for decades. Now I’m on a heavy day light day heavy day light day. repeat. There is so much info here at T Nation to help, To quote what Bruce once said, Absorb what is useful.
Where is this forum thread… I am 64 and now just getting in shape again after a distal tendon tear ( not related to lifting).
This time I am soar for 5 days and get cramps… I need the right supplements and the timing to get bac in the swing of working out.
I have my own 7 stack gym at my home so I would like to figure out this issue as times a wasting
Several years ago I wrote to TC and asked for an over 60s forum! Now after turning 70 I want an over 70 one!! I have been training (we used to call Physical Culture (PC) but that means something else today) for 55 years longer than most of you have been on this planet. In another thread on GAL on old age their is a guy who is 70 and in superb shape.
Let me tell you something he is an “exception!!” I looked and felt great at 50, there is a reason they retire you at 65 that is when you start going down hill. Luckily I have no injuries but my poundages are half what they were. I train lighter with more reps and less often, it is now just maintaining what I have. The real problems are motivation and nutrition.
The good thing about training is that it becomes a habit and when you stop for a while muscle memory helps get you back into shape. Just to put things in perspective my hero Larry Scott died at 75, it happens to all of us. Just don’t give up.
I turned 49 today. I did 100 pull-ups yesterday (after deadlifting 2x bw for sets and some other stuff). Sprinted today (1 mile warmup: walked- then 10x40 yds)…I didn’t do that on my 35th. Planning on this being my best year…