Neighbors Want to Kill Me

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Dedicated, you make a good point, but it’s not for us to judge if it’s true or not, in this instance. Those who think it’s false can ignore the post and not comment. I commented because I live in a city where the kind of element he describes is prevalent, and the kinds of actions he describes are all too common.

This is a weight lifting site, so if he is making claims others are relying on, yes I would want more proof, and yes, to believe anything on the internet is to do so at your own risk. However, it isnt hurting me to give this guy advice. If it’s false, well I’ve just wasted about 30 minutes of my day.

But again, dedicated, good point. But this issue struck a chord with me.

R

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[quote]RobinWDC wrote:
Dedicated, you make a good point, but it’s not for us to judge if it’s true or not, in this instance. Those who think it’s false can ignore the post and not comment. I commented because I live in a city where the kind of element he describes is prevalent, and the kinds of actions he describes are all too common.

This is a weight lifting site, so if he is making claims others are relying on, yes I would want more proof, and yes, to believe anything on the internet is to do so at your own risk. However, it isnt hurting me to give this guy advice. If it’s false, well I’ve just wasted about 30 minutes of my day.

But again, dedicated, good point. But this issue struck a chord with me.

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I hear you man. Your posts have a ring of authenticity to them. Hope things get better!

Take care,

D

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[quote]RobinWDC wrote:
And HE DID talk to them before, and the neighbors didn’t listen to him or anyone else. [/quote]

Did he? I missed that part.

I wouldn’t say he should never call the cops. If he’s tried talking to them, and tried talking to the landlord, calling the cops to establish a record for when he breaks the lease would be the next step. Anyway, none of that matters now. Move out.

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[quote]RobinWDC wrote:
WhiteFlash- I havent heard any racist things going on. But you made a homophobic comment, so what is the difference? And HE DID talk to them before, and the neighbors didn’t listen to him or anyone else. It sounds like you don’t have a good understanding of what these kinds of people are like. They are illiterate, resentful of white people and irrational because their mothers took crack back in the 80s when these people were in the oven.

As one poster said, there is no being “macho” (or “not gay” as you would put it) with them. They would shoot you for calling the cops AND for asking them to keep it down when they are in the middle of their crack party. So I challenge you to walk a night his shoes.

And they ARE doing something. They are shouting at him as he walks to work, and they are probably plotting right now, waiting for their homies to get out of jail.[/quote]

How is saying that something is “gay” homophobic? So you have no problem using phrases like “african zulu blah blah blah” but god forbid he offend the homosexuals.

Your problem is that you see color. I dont see color I see economic status. “Ghetto” to me doesnt mean the n-word, I dont care whether you’re white or black, if youre trash youre trash. Next time you move into a new neighborhood for goodness sakes make sure youre not living next to a halfway house. I used to live in DC, so I guarantee they have better things to do than check up on your petty little complaints over MARIJUANA usage. Get over yourself.

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Dude, unless you are color blind, everyone sees color. But, I agree what you are saying about economic status. Black trash and white trash differ only in that black trash seem to have an added visceral hatred for whites. So if this dude IS white, he has the added burden of these neighbors having heightened resentment. I’m only going by personal expierence, and by what other black neighbors have told me and explained to me.

And wtf are you talking about “How is saying that something is gay is homophobic??” Let me explain: He is using the word “gay” to mean something contextually derogatory. These people WERE black, so that’s why I said black! Jesus, politically correct party of one, your table is ready. If I were living next to a gay bathhouse and these people were doing the same thing I would have said “gay guys”. And note it wasn’t used in a derogatory context, only a factual one. If I am stating facts, it’s not derogatory. The dude saying something was “gay” was NOT referring to a man who marries other men.

Actually the halfway house is very out of place where I live in Dupont Circle. The police have been more receptive than you think but only after our condo board encouraged continued calls to police.

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Robin, when asked if he talked to them he said " No point, I’ve dealt with ghetto trash before" or something similar. That leads me to believe he never approached them man up. Also, calling a group of black guys 50 cent wannabe ex con ghetto trash is pretty fuckin’ racist. And the fact that he called the cops without talking to them first, didn’t do shit when his car was fucked with and bitches about it on an internet forum makes him a pussy. I think I’ve covered my bases on this.

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Robin, you’re pretty fuckin’ racist as well. You judge these people and call their mother’s crack heads without having met a single one of them. And I don’t give a shit about what you think you know, 'cause it’s wrong.

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True, but calling a bunch of 50-cent, wannabe ex-con, ghetto trash who happen to be black a bunch of 50-cent, wannabe ex-con, ghetto trash, isn’t.

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[quote]RobinWDC wrote:
And wtf are you talking about “How is saying that something is gay is homophobic??” Let me explain: He is using the word “gay” to mean something contextually derogatory. These people WERE black, so that’s why I said black! Jesus, politically correct party of one, your table is ready. If I were living next to a gay bathhouse and these people were doing the same thing I would have said “gay guys”. And note it wasn’t used in a derogatory context, only a factual one. If I am stating facts, it’s not derogatory. The dude saying something was “gay” was NOT referring to a man who marries other men.
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Which is why it isnt homophobic. Wake up. The word “gay” has practically nothing to do with sexual preference anymore. Hell, most of the time it’s spelled “ghey.” I couldnt care less who people are sleeping with, and i have better things to do than wring my hands and worry about some fool’s idea about homosexuals tearing the moral fabric of the country apart, etc etc blah blah blah. That being said, if something is lame, weak, soft, I am going to call it ghey. I have no negative feelings or stereotypes towards homosexuals, and your seeming perception of these non-existent feelings only illustrates your ignorance.

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[quote]RobinWDC wrote:

KBCThird
Which is why it isnt homophobic. Wake up. The word “gay” has practically nothing to do with sexual preference anymore. Hell, most of the time it’s spelled “ghey.” I couldnt care less who people are sleeping with, and i have better things to do than wring my hands and worry about some fool’s idea about homosexuals tearing the moral fabric of the country apart, etc etc blah blah blah. That being said, if something is lame, weak, soft, I am going to call it ghey. I have no negative feelings or stereotypes towards homosexuals, and your seeming perception of these non-existent feelings only illustrates your ignorance.
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WAT? You absolutely cannot be serious when you say the word “gay” has practically nothing to do with sexual preference. So is it cool if I say “KBCThird you are gay.” Can I tell it to the woman you are hitting on at a bar?

The word “gay” has everything to do with sexual orientation, just like “nigger” has everything to do with race. I don’t believe for a second that 1.) you are that dumb, and 2.) you believe that yourself.

As for my being racist, I am absolutely not. I give everyone of every race, gender, sexual orientation and religion my full respect. I have problems with just as many white people as I do black people. The only difference is, I am not going to give in to the Politically Correct nation we have going. I tell the facts as they are. If you have a problem with it, well that’s just your problem now isn’t it?

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[quote]Rob in WDC wrote:

As for my being racist, I am absolutely not. I give everyone of every race, gender, sexual orientation and religion my full respect.[/quote]

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[quote]Rob in WDC wrote:
RobinWDC wrote:

KBCThird
Which is why it isnt homophobic. Wake up. The word “gay” has practically nothing to do with sexual preference anymore. Hell, most of the time it’s spelled “ghey.” I couldnt care less who people are sleeping with, and i have better things to do than wring my hands and worry about some fool’s idea about homosexuals tearing the moral fabric of the country apart, etc etc blah blah blah. That being said, if something is lame, weak, soft, I am going to call it ghey. I have no negative feelings or stereotypes towards homosexuals, and your seeming perception of these non-existent feelings only illustrates your ignorance.

WAT? You absolutely cannot be serious when you say the word “gay” has practically nothing to do with sexual preference. So is it cool if I say “KBCThird you are gay.” Can I tell it to the woman you are hitting on at a bar?

The word “gay” has everything to do with sexual orientation, just like “nigger” has everything to do with race. I don’t believe for a second that 1.) you are that dumb, and 2.) you believe that yourself.

As for my being racist, I am absolutely not. I give everyone of every race, gender, sexual orientation and religion my full respect. I have problems with just as many white people as I do black people. The only difference is, I am not going to give in to the Politically Correct nation we have going. I tell the facts as they are. If you have a problem with it, well that’s just your problem now isn’t it?[/quote]

So which is it, am I “Mr. Politically Correct” or am I a homophobe? You can’t even seem to make up your mind about that.

Do you remember 4 years ago (give or take) when the goalie on the Dartmouth lacrosse team came out? The media jumped in and interviewed him expecting him to say how uncomfortable he felt, and how homosexual-hating a sport lacrosse was. Instead, he made the coherent point that “Look, I never took it personally; when a teammate said “man, that shirt is gay” did that mean that he thought the shirt was having sex with men, or with other shirts? Of course not.”

So yes, I am serious that in this day and age, “gay” or “ghey” has nothing to do with sexual preference. I already explained it, I’m not wasting my time doing so again, so I quote from above “That being said, if something is lame, weak, soft, I am going to call it ghey. I have no negative feelings or stereotypes towards homosexuals, and your seeming perception of these non-existent feelings only illustrates your ignorance.”

Are you telling me you’ve never heard a white guy referred to as a nigger? Or perhaps a wigger … you do realize that means “white nigger,” right? So tell me, how much does it have to do with race when Chris Rock says “I love black people … but I HATE niggers!” According your myopic view, that should be a contradiction in terms.

Get out into the world, open your eyes. Realize that a) the meaning of words evolve and change and b) people dont always conform to the stereotypes you seem to assign them.

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[quote]KBCThird wrote:
KBCThird
So which is it, am I “Mr. Politically Correct” or am I a homophobe? You can’t even seem to make up your mind about that.

Do you remember 4 years ago (give or take) when the goalie on the Dartmouth lacrosse team came out? The media jumped in and interviewed him expecting him to say how uncomfortable he felt, and how homosexual-hating a sport lacrosse was. Instead, he made the coherent point that “Look, I never took it personally; when a teammate said “man, that shirt is gay” did that mean that he thought the shirt was having sex with men, or with other shirts? Of course not.”

So yes, I am serious that in this day and age, “gay” or “ghey” has nothing to do with sexual preference. I already explained it, I’m not wasting my time doing so again, so I quote from above “That being said, if something is lame, weak, soft, I am going to call it ghey. I have no negative feelings or stereotypes towards homosexuals, and your seeming perception of these non-existent feelings only illustrates your ignorance.”

Are you telling me you’ve never heard a white guy referred to as a nigger? Or perhaps a wigger … you do realize that means “white nigger,” right? So tell me, how much does it have to do with race when Chris Rock says “I love black people … but I HATE niggers!” According your myopic view, that should be a contradiction in terms.

Get out into the world, open your eyes. Realize that a) the meaning of words evolve and change and b) people dont always conform to the stereotypes you seem to assign them.[/quote]

KBCThird, this was never a discussion about people conforming to stereotypes. I have never heard anyone use the word ‘nigger’ to refer to a white person, no. I do like Chris Rock, and you illustrate something important that you may not have realized: black people own the word ‘nigger’ and homosexual men own the word ‘gay.’

While I am NOT politically correct, I dont go around using ‘gay’ as an adjective for something bad. And i CERTAINLY don’t use the word ‘nigger’. It’s provocative. What I meant earlier about the use of the word ‘ghetto’ is that everyone knew what the reference was-- and it’s better to just say they were a group of black people (if that’s what they were) living across the hall then calling them ghetto. How is calling black people ‘black people’ racist? I would argue that using the word ‘ghetto’ in place of it is more racist!

Further, I was illustrating the added, real tension that blacks feel for whites, and whites feel for blacks. How do I know this? Because I AM out in the world, Mr. Smarty pants! And I refuse to be “Ferraro’d” by people calling me racist if I am merely pointing out facts!

Now to bring it up a notch, I do appreciate that you are not homophobic and I do believe you and that is great. But people can only take you at your word and what you project. You were using the word “gay” as a negative adjective. I was NOT saying anything against black people. I was only saying something about the people who were disrupting the OP.

And it IS fact that the children of women who smoked crack in the 80s are in their 20s now. These “crack children” have horrible problems as adults. I was only offering my view of why these neighbors are acting irrationally. Is saying this racist??? It’s fact! And I don’t think all black people smoke crack! I dont think ANY of my black friends do or ever did.

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[quote]Rob in WDC wrote:

KBCThird, this was never a discussion about people conforming to stereotypes. I have never heard anyone use the word ‘nigger’ to refer to a white person, no. I do like Chris Rock, and you illustrate something important that you may not have realized: black people own the word ‘nigger’ and homosexual men own the word ‘gay.’ [/quote]

As far as ownership of the word, I am aware of the argument, and I can appreciate it, but I dont agree with it. Not for a second. Saying ‘It’s ok for this group to use this word, but not for that group to use it’ is inherently exclusionary and biased.

But the fact that they’re black is IRRELEVANT! The fact that they’re ghetto - to put it specifically: low-class, not-law-abiding, and contributing nothing to society - is the point he’s trying to make. Yes, in this fay and age, people will hear ghetto and 99.99% of them will envision a black person; so in that sense, you can say that ghetto = black. But you can’t say that black = ghetto.

Just imagine for a minute if the OPs post had started off somehting to the effect: ‘I called the cops instead of going over there because my neighbors are black.’ By telling us his neighbors are ghetto that illustrates much needed info.

[quote]Further, I was illustrating the added, real tension that blacks feel for whites, and whites feel for blacks. How do I know this? Because I AM out in the world, Mr. Smarty pants! And I refuse to be “Ferraro’d” by people calling me racist if I am merely pointing out facts!

Now to bring it up a notch, I do appreciate that you are not homophobic and I do believe you and that is great. But people can only take you at your word and what you project. You were using the word “gay” as a negative adjective. I was NOT saying anything against black people. I was only saying something about the people who were disrupting the OP.
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If my use of a word as innocuous as “gay” causes people to think that I’m somehow biased against homosexuals, that is their problem and their hang-up, not mine. I’d rather deal with consequences from small-minded people than to go around attempting to tailor my thoughts and self-image to what they want me to be.

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[quote]KBCThird wrote:

But the fact that they’re black is IRRELEVANT! The fact that they’re ghetto - to put it specifically: low-class, not-law-abiding, and contributing nothing to society - is the point he’s trying to make. Yes, in this fay and age, people will hear ghetto and 99.99% of them will envision a black person; so in that sense, you can say that ghetto = black. But you can’t say that black = ghetto.

Just imagine for a minute if the OPs post had started off somehting to the effect: ‘I called the cops instead of going over there because my neighbors are black.’ By telling us his neighbors are ghetto that illustrates much needed info.
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Au contraire. If you read my post I said if they are black and he is white it IS relevant for reasons I’ve already explained. I am not a mind reader, and I am aware of the many meanings of ‘ghetto’, so while you might jump to a conclusion about a meaning for that word, I’m not so fast to make assumptions. So “ghetto” tells ME nothing.

Your imagined scenario in your second paragraph does not follow from what I was saying or from what the OP was saying, for reasons I’ve already explained.

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By the way, does anyone think I’m hot? If so and you are in dc, PM me.

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[quote]ElbowStrike wrote:
Also, calling a group of black guys 50 cent wannabe ex con ghetto trash is pretty fuckin’ racist.

True, but calling a bunch of 50-cent, wannabe ex-con, ghetto trash who happen to be black a bunch of 50-cent, wannabe ex-con, ghetto trash, isn’t.[/quote]

True, but he won’t even talk to them about turning their music down, so I’m guessing he doesn’t know them well enough to know that they’ve been to the pen or what rapper they prefer to listen to.

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[quote]Rob in WDC wrote:
Au contraire. If you read my post I said if they are black and he is white it IS relevant for reasons I’ve already explained. I am not a mind reader, and I am aware of the many meanings of ‘ghetto’, so while you might jump to a conclusion about a meaning for that word, I’m not so fast to make assumptions. So “ghetto” tells ME nothing.

Your imagined scenario in your second paragraph does not follow from what I was saying or from what the OP was saying, for reasons I’ve already explained.[/quote]

So you’re not a mind-reader, and yet you posted this “What I meant earlier about the use of the word ‘ghetto’ is that everyone knew what the reference was” How did you know htat if you don’t read minds … come on, at least you were being consistent before (except for the part about calling me politically correct AND a homophobe, that was inconsistent, but other than that, pretty good)

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[quote]Rob in WDC wrote:
By the way, does anyone think I’m hot? If so and you are in dc, PM me.

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thats just ghey