Ok what is min length that should be used for IM injection in delt. I have a friend using .5" I told him this was too small and he needs at least 1". I believe thats what the CDC says???
Depends how fat the person is. I know people using .5 there
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Depends how fat the person is. I know people using .5 there[/quote]
^^^This. I have used both 1.5" and .5" needles. When in doubt deeper is better.
Also depends on where you’re injecting.
Delts are going to require a shorter pin than say glutes
^ he specifcally said the delts.
When injecting a medication that requires a deep intramuscular (IM) the deltoid is not the place to go deep. When you hit the periosteoium covering the bone, you will know the needle was to long for days. I feel one should rotate injections that require deep IM injections to the the GMâ??s and LVLâ??s. If you decide to inject in the delts avoid injecting more than 1cc per injection. This is what I would do.
Deltiod- 5/8 to 1â?? 23g to 27g and inject slowly. 1cc or less
GM - 1 ½ inch 23g to 25g 3cc or less
LVL - 1inch to 1 ½ inch 23g to 25g. 2c or less
Always aspirate( pull back on the plunger) before injecting. If you see blood , push or pull the needle to reposition the tip and repeat until no blood is seen.
Always wipe before and after injections with alcohol
[quote]Daviebo wrote:
When injecting a medication that requires a deep intramuscular (IM) the deltoid is not the place to go deep. When you hit the periosteoium covering the bone, you will know the needle was to long for days. I feel one should rotate injections that require deep IM injections to the the GMâ??s and LVLâ??s. If you decide to inject in the delts avoid injecting more than 1cc per injection. This is what I would do.
Deltiod- 5/8 to 1â?? 23g to 27g and inject slowly. 1cc or less
GM - 1 �½ inch 23g to 25g 3cc or less
LVL - 1inch to 1 �½ inch 23g to 25g. 2c or less
Always aspirate( pull back on the plunger) before injecting. If you see blood , push or pull the needle to reposition the tip and repeat until no blood is seen.
Always wipe before and after injections with alcohol
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So consensus is if person is relatively lean .5 is ok?
Sorry Daviebo dont know what this symbol is “Ã?½ inch” does that say 1/2?
Dont wanna start an aspiration debater here but CDC also says no need to aspirate with IM injections.
Sorry Gabe
That’s a 1/2 inch. Gabe always aspirate with a IM injection to avoid a intravascular injection. Look at any basic nursing or medical procedure book for proper injection tech. Plus it only takes a portion of a second to be safe than sorry.
Yeah, 0.5 inch will be fine if he’s lean.
wow im suprised, always thought .5 was too short (even if lean) Ive always beeen told 1" even 1.5" was the way to go even in the delts. Thanks for the info fellas
1.5" is totally fine and I’ve buried that sucker all the way too. Equally true I have done dozens, probably hundreds of delt shots using just a slin pin and its .5" needle. Zero problems with those too
[quote]saps wrote:
1.5" is totally fine and I’ve buried that sucker all the way too. [/quote]
… Says the fatty (ex?)powerlifter…
lol I kid I kid. 
1.5s look like a weapon after handling slin pins for a few cycles haha.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
[quote]saps wrote:
1.5" is totally fine and I’ve buried that sucker all the way too. [/quote]
… Says the fatty (ex?)powerlifter…
lol I kid I kid.
1.5s look like a weapon after handling slin pins for a few cycles haha. [/quote]Key word = ex
Seriously though anyone with any appreciable mass should be fine with an all the way in 1.5" in the delt. Equally true unless you’re pretty obese a .5" needle will go IM as well
Agreed with the 1.5" in delts but if .5" will cut it (if your lean) then why not i guess?
i do 1.5 ml in the delts with 25 gauge, 5/8 inch pins. never sore afterwards. should i cut back to 1 ml?
[quote]Work_For_It wrote:
i do 1.5 ml in the delts with 25 gauge, 5/8 inch pins. never sore afterwards. should i cut back to 1 ml?[/quote]
Why? never sore afterwards = A-OK
thanks, ive heard people say before that its too much and can cause tissue damage.
Too much is relative to muscle size. Smaller people might only tolerate 1ml in a delt. Bigger might pull off 2mls no problems. Small muscle size determines volume threshold. Its why no one worries about putting a larger volume into Glute or VG.
There is a well know big guy in here who can put 2mls into a bicep and 3-4mls into a tricep.
damn, 3-4 into a tricep? well the only thing that i notice is just after the injection it feels swollen because of the extra liquid but that goes away after about 5-10 minutes. ive been considering doing 2ml at a time, ill prob do that on wednesday now, thanks
As the years have gone by I’ve reduced volume but increased frequency for stability of blood levels. Any Ace or prop I of course hit daily but even my enanthates and cypionates I hit EOD