My doc gave me an Rx for 18g needles for drawing and 21g/1-inch needles for IM injections into quads.
Two questions:
–I’m only taking .5ml/week - will the 18 gauge needle leave too big a hole in the rubber stopper of the test bottle?
–21 gauge seems like a harpoon. If I don’t want to do SubQ, and I want to stick with my quads for now, is 21g the way to go or would you use a thinner pin?
go get sub q needles for diabetics and inject into the stomach.
100mg? why is everyone taking less and less T today. your doctor sucks bro. you are a man, you need T. Stop allowing them to sell you short. FFS there was a time where eveyrone took 175/200. now i see so many wanting to take half of what we suggest.
Yet you get a woman who wants to convert to a man and theyll over dose them with T.
Ive used 29 gauge insulin needs in quads and delts for years. I believe either 1/2 or 5/8 inch too.
No need for harpoons.
I vote you stop posting on this site. You’re trash.
And the more I read your crap, the more you sound like you may be Yeti.
GTFOH.
Part of the reason I asked this question was because every time I search, the discussion just trails off into a SubQ vs IM or Delts vs Quads discussion.
I’m injecting IM into my quads. For now. I appreciate the advice to switch, and in time I may. But I’m only in week 2, and I want to see how this goes and follow my urologist’s recs.
–I’m only taking .5ml/week - will the 18 gauge needle leave too big a hole in the rubber stopper of the test bottle?
–21 gauge seems like a harpoon. If I don’t want to do SubQ, and I want to stick with my quads for now, is 21g the way to go or would you use a thinner pin?
Both gauges will be fine. Your rubber stopper will be fine.
Consider a higher gauge in the future (higher, meaning thinner needle).
Both gauges will be fine. Your rubber stopper will be fine.
Consider a higher gauge in the future (higher, meaning thinner needle).
Thinner for loading, pinning, or both?
we’re not turning the pharma section into another politics section. We can do without this.
I’m sorry, but could you quote the part where he said anything about concentration? I saw volume, but not an actual mg dose. You ASSUMED he’s using 200mg/ml. Not sure why. I personally use 300mg/ml. But even if your assumption was correct, your recommendation is unfounded. You don’t know how he responds to ANY dose, you’re just projecting.
Oh, and you managed to address all of this without actually responding to ANYTHING he asked. Great work.
I think your doc hates you bro.
I tried quads about a half-dozen times and couldn’t bear to run it again (granted, this is with L-Carnitine - which is quite painful). If your quad injections don’t hurt, I would stick with it; if they do hurt, try giving your shoulders a shot (pun intended).
You can pin with insulin needles if you would rather not feel like you got headbutted by Hellraiser (I use 27ga)
You use a thinner pin for injection than drawing. With drawing, most people are prioritizing speed, essentially. Really thin needles take longer to load. As has already been said, the rubber stopper will be fine at any gauge. For comfort reasons, a thinner needle is recommended vs your draw pin.
Also keep in mind that all of this is really just personal preference, it all ‘works’, as long as you’re using a needle large enough for the liquid to pass through. I personally don’t prefer insulin pins for myself, because they take too long, but I also pin more volume than you do.
As far as length goes, that’s going to be highly dependent on bodyfat, especially if we’re talking about quads. I am very lean, and use 5/8 needles with no issue. For someone fatter than me, perhaps a longer needle would be necessary for IM. I can’t tell you what length will work for you, as I have not seen you.
Aw man… I’ve literally put hundreds of pins in my quads, lol. That’s ALL I did for years. Just got used to it. I will say, it’s the most painful site I use, but whatever. I eventually added in delts. These days, I mostly just go back and forth between quads and glutes.
This probably isn’t a big deal if not using L-Carnitine, but, umm, I don’t recommend quads with L-Car. Like at all.
If I could choose between Mike Tyson giving me a dead-leg with his strongest punch or taking the L-Car shot in the quad - I’d take that Mike Tyson punch every time.
I used 27 and 29 gauge syringes in the quads no problem.
Both.
Loading just takes a little longer. Why screw around with different needles?
I’ve noticed this too. Good thing it seems times are changing. This is why they get the way they get when they are questioned.
Pussy.
I was injecting 3CC’s into quads routinely. After 5-6 weeks the pain was pretty much gone. But, I am slightly sadistic and was a pincushion at the time so I need more spots to hit.
Every now and then it would be pretty sore. I found doing legs / riding the bike on pretty high resistance the days of injections helped a lot to move the oil out and reduce soreness.
I used 23 gauge - 1 inch. Lower in vastus lateralis was best for me.
Now, I will say injecting the super test 450 I would never do again anywhere without cutting it.
Oh I know he claims to be yeti’s patient as I recall.
He just reiterates yetis crap over and over.
Try it with L-Car, then come back and talk to me lol.
My leg was useless for 6+ hours after hitting it with 1.5cc L-Car.
you guys just aren’t open minded and can’t comprehend what’s being told to you. If you done your research and understood how T and E2 works in men you would not be asking the questions you are or saying the things you do. We literally got thousands of physicians agree and thousands of patients that we have saved the lives of but you guys chose to remain uneducated.
