My doc gave me an Rx for 18g needles for drawing and 21g/1-inch needles for IM injections into quads.
Two questions:
–I’m only taking .5ml/week - will the 18 gauge needle leave too big a hole in the rubber stopper of the test bottle?
–21 gauge seems like a harpoon. If I don’t want to do SubQ, and I want to stick with my quads for now, is 21g the way to go or would you use a thinner pin?
27/28g insulin pin to shoulder or dorsogluteal. Same pin for draw and injection.
See post here and below. Leave your quads ALONE.
go get sub q needles for diabetics and inject into the stomach.
100mg? why is everyone taking less and less T today. your doctor sucks bro. you are a man, you need T. Stop allowing them to sell you short. FFS there was a time where eveyrone took 175/200. now i see so many wanting to take half of what we suggest.
Yet you get a woman who wants to convert to a man and theyll over dose them with T.
How do I say this in a calm, scientific way. You are a dumbass. No one is shorting anybody. Is there not a Facebook moron convention for you to go haunt?
At this point you should be removed from this forum for sheer idiocy. You don’t know this guy but are convinced he is underdosed.
Ive used 29 gauge insulin needs in quads and delts for years. I believe either 1/2 or 5/8 inch too.
No need for harpoons.
I vote you stop posting on this site. You’re trash.
And the more I read your crap, the more you sound like you may be Yeti.
GTFOH.
Part of the reason I asked this question was because every time I search, the discussion just trails off into a SubQ vs IM or Delts vs Quads discussion.
I’m injecting IM into my quads. For now. I appreciate the advice to switch, and in time I may. But I’m only in week 2, and I want to see how this goes and follow my urologist’s recs.
–I’m only taking .5ml/week - will the 18 gauge needle leave too big a hole in the rubber stopper of the test bottle?
–21 gauge seems like a harpoon. If I don’t want to do SubQ, and I want to stick with my quads for now, is 21g the way to go or would you use a thinner pin?
Both gauges will be fine. Your rubber stopper will be fine.
Consider a higher gauge in the future (higher, meaning thinner needle).
Both gauges will be fine. Your rubber stopper will be fine.
Consider a higher gauge in the future (higher, meaning thinner needle).
Thinner for loading, pinning, or both?
we’re not turning the pharma section into another politics section. We can do without this.
I’m sorry, but could you quote the part where he said anything about concentration? I saw volume, but not an actual mg dose. You ASSUMED he’s using 200mg/ml. Not sure why. I personally use 300mg/ml. But even if your assumption was correct, your recommendation is unfounded. You don’t know how he responds to ANY dose, you’re just projecting.
Oh, and you managed to address all of this without actually responding to ANYTHING he asked. Great work.
I think your doc hates you bro.
I tried quads about a half-dozen times and couldn’t bear to run it again (granted, this is with L-Carnitine - which is quite painful). If your quad injections don’t hurt, I would stick with it; if they do hurt, try giving your shoulders a shot (pun intended).
You can pin with insulin needles if you would rather not feel like you got headbutted by Hellraiser (I use 27ga)
You use a thinner pin for injection than drawing. With drawing, most people are prioritizing speed, essentially. Really thin needles take longer to load. As has already been said, the rubber stopper will be fine at any gauge. For comfort reasons, a thinner needle is recommended vs your draw pin.
Also keep in mind that all of this is really just personal preference, it all ‘works’, as long as you’re using a needle large enough for the liquid to pass through. I personally don’t prefer insulin pins for myself, because they take too long, but I also pin more volume than you do.
As far as length goes, that’s going to be highly dependent on bodyfat, especially if we’re talking about quads. I am very lean, and use 5/8 needles with no issue. For someone fatter than me, perhaps a longer needle would be necessary for IM. I can’t tell you what length will work for you, as I have not seen you.
Aw man… I’ve literally put hundreds of pins in my quads, lol. That’s ALL I did for years. Just got used to it. I will say, it’s the most painful site I use, but whatever. I eventually added in delts. These days, I mostly just go back and forth between quads and glutes.
This probably isn’t a big deal if not using L-Carnitine, but, umm, I don’t recommend quads with L-Car. Like at all.
If I could choose between Mike Tyson giving me a dead-leg with his strongest punch or taking the L-Car shot in the quad - I’d take that Mike Tyson punch every time.
I used 27 and 29 gauge syringes in the quads no problem.
Both.
Loading just takes a little longer. Why screw around with different needles?
Not yeti. If you believe what was written here then e is a patient of good ole y. Seems like they come on to do their “outreach” and patient recruiting/“education” from time to time.
I’ve noticed this too. Good thing it seems times are changing. This is why they get the way they get when they are questioned.
