A friend of mine was asking me about using for the first time to help him add mass. He is about 6’, 210, lean, and a hardgainer. He eats like a madman and can’t gain weight.
Here’s the problem…he is very limited on cash. His two options, based on money and my suggestion, was this: Sust at 1mL/ 2X per week for 10 weeks OR 8 weeks of D-bol at 20mg per day.
If these were your only choices, which would be the logical choice? I cast my vote for the sust. Your opinions?
They are both very good cycles to begin with, but if you are not afraid of shooting in your ass then I would definetly go with the injectable. I don’t know what type of budget you are using but there is more than just your cycle to think about.
He would be better off to go with a cc of cyp or enathate twice a week.
And if cost is such a factor maybe he should just spend the money on more food and put some weight on that way. As was previously mentioned there is no suggestion of PCT.
See Ya
Why do so many people have to use a “friend” excuse to post. It’s always, “I’ve got this friend, he’s 23, 6 foot 1 and 3/8ths, weighs 207.4, has 38 pubes on his left ball, is sometimes worried people will find out he secretly masturbates to MILF porn, and is thinking of taking steroids.” Common, we all know its you, and we’re not gonna bash you for wanting to use.
I’d go with the sustanon for 10 weeks for a beginner cycle.
And as the others have already said, better have your PCT in order and diet plan ready.
sustanon should not be run for more than 6 weeks.The d-bol start 1 week a fter the first pin @ 20mg for 5 weeks
[quote]RoidEnthusiast wrote:
Why do so many people have to use a “friend” excuse to post. It’s always, “I’ve got this friend, he’s 23, 6 foot 1 and 3/8ths, weighs 207.4, has 38 pubes on his left ball, is sometimes worried people will find out he secretly masturbates to MILF porn, and is thinking of taking steroids.” Common, we all know its you, and we’re not gonna bash you for wanting to use. [/quote]
Why don’t you check my other posts on this forum before making your assumption? I know what I’m talking about and made my suggestion to him. All I am doing here is asking for the general concensus of my peers here.
It really IS for a buddy of mine. I don’t care for either sust or D, which is why I asked for others’ input. I prefer a tren/prop/halo stack for a pre-meet boost. He is very limited on cash due to having two different kids he pays child support for. I never suggested PCT because he would be running a low dose of a single substance for a relatively short time. Gyno and other shit shouldn’t even be a factor.
I just realized I wrote my last reply while signed on under my g/f’s screen name (ramairta). Ooops.
Heres an easy one…if he looks hard enough on the internet and gets a P.O. box…he can get anything he wants for pretty cheap. I wouldnt recommend someone doing a first cycle that involved anything other than test…unless it was like an anavar only or OT only cycle. But if hes looking to add mass i wouldnt go any other way than this.
Week 1-12 : 500mg/week Test Cyp
Week 15 : Nolvadex 40mg ed, mega dose BCAA, TRIBEX, creatine
Week 16 : Nolvadex 40mg ed, mega dose BCAA, TRIBEX, creatine
Week 17 : Nolvadex 30mg ed, mega dose BCAA, TRIBEX, creatine
Week 18 : Nolvadex 20mg ed, mega dose BCAA, TRIBEX, creatine
[quote]rip2dhush wrote:
sustanon should not be run for more than 6 weeks.The d-bol start 1 week a fter the first pin @ 20mg for 5 weeks[/quote]
#1 Why? Most cycles are 8-10 weeks with any test.
#2 This was an either/or question, doing both was not one of the options.
#3 Isn’t d-bol normally a kickstart/frontload for your injectable cycle?
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
He would be better off to go with a cc of cyp or enathate twice a week.
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I agree on that point, but he said sust & D were the two things he could get his hands on immediately.
Why in the holy hell do people refer to theor cycles in ml’s per week? This is a pet peeve of mine, and I am going to take a moment to rant.
If you have not the capacity to know that a ml means dick unless you provide the concentration - why in the holy fuck are you posting about a cycle?
Honestly - there needes to be a minimum IQ about steroids before folks are allowed to post.
Rant over.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Why in the holy hell do people refer to theor cycles in ml’s per week? This is a pet peeve of mine, and I am going to take a moment to rant.
If you have not the capacity to know that a ml means dick unless you provide the concentration - why in the holy fuck are you posting about a cycle?
Honestly - there needes to be a minimum IQ about steroids before folks are allowed to post.
Rant over. [/quote]
Ok, even the most idiotic among us know that Sust/Enth/Cyp all come standard in 250 mg/mL dosage. I didn’t think I needed to write it in crayon for you…
[quote]RoidEnthusiast wrote:
Why do so many people have to use a “friend” excuse to post. It’s always, “I’ve got this friend, he’s 23, 6 foot 1 and 3/8ths, weighs 207.4, [/quote][u]has 38 pubes on his left ball, [/u][quote]is sometimes worried people will find out he secretly masturbates to MILF porn, and is thinking of taking steroids.” Common, we all know its you, and we’re not gonna bash you for wanting to use. [/quote]
lol bump
[quote]Antman517 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Why in the holy hell do people refer to theor cycles in ml’s per week? This is a pet peeve of mine, and I am going to take a moment to rant.
If you have not the capacity to know that a ml means dick unless you provide the concentration - why in the holy fuck are you posting about a cycle?
Honestly - there needes to be a minimum IQ about steroids before folks are allowed to post.
Rant over.
Ok, even the most idiotic among us know that Sust/Enth/Cyp all come standard in 250 mg/mL dosage. I didn’t think I needed to write it in crayon for you…
[/quote]
Just use the proper terminology.
You sound like you indeed write with crayons - and embarass the entire community when you cannot use the proper terms.
People like you are why folks like me get prejudged as being dumb gear heads. Your stupidity and ignorance needs to be addressed before you ever get advice.
If you knew dick about AAS - you would know that you can get just about any compound in any concentration you want. But that would require klnowing something about the subject beyond what your ass-lick gym dealer tells you.
Fuckwad.
[quote]Just use the proper terminology.
You sound like you indeed write with crayons - and embarass the entire community when you cannot use the proper terms.
People like you are why folks like me get prejudged as being dumb gear heads. Your stupidity and ignorance needs to be addressed before you ever get advice.
If you knew dick about AAS - you would know that you can get just about any compound in any concentration you want. But that would require klnowing something about the subject beyond what your ass-lick gym dealer tells you.
Fuckwad. [/quote]
You could have ended the post with your first sentence and still effectively gotten your point across. Instead you chose to be insulting and really blow things out of proportion for no reason, which tells me you might need to lower your dosage a bit.
Please, oh masterful roid guru, address my ignorance so that I may one day be worthy of posting on here for advice. And you called ME a fuckwad…
[quote]Antman517 wrote:
You could have ended the post with your first sentence and still effectively gotten your point across. Instead you chose to be insulting and really blow things out of proportion for no reason, which tells me you might need to lower your dosage a bit.
Please, oh masterful roid guru, address my ignorance so that I may one day be worthy of posting on here for advice. And you called ME a fuckwad…[/quote]
Yes. I ended my post with the word “fuckwad”.
You started out with the insults after I clearly stated that I was merely ranting over what I consider a pet peeve.
I answer steroid questions every day. I am not saying am anywhere near a guru - but I do know enough to spot someone that knows nothing about the subject matter.
That would be you - so don’t sit there and tell me that the different test esters all come in a standard concentration. I make the shit. I can make it in any concentration you want - with in reason.
So instead of defending the idea of just posting how manny cc’s you are injecting
Until you can prove differently - you are still a fuckwad.
Try taking one bit of advice. I know it is an exercise in futility - but shut the fuck up and try to learn something before running your mouth.
[quote]boroughbred wrote:
RoidEnthusiast wrote:
Why do so many people have to use a “friend” excuse to post. It’s always, “I’ve got this friend, he’s 23, 6 foot 1 and 3/8ths, weighs 207.4, [u]has 38 pubes on his left ball, [/u]is sometimes worried people will find out he secretly masturbates to MILF porn, and is thinking of taking steroids.” Common, we all know its you, and we’re not gonna bash you for wanting to use.
lol bump[/quote]
I second the bump! Ha ha.
[quote]Antman517 wrote:
Just use the proper terminology.
You sound like you indeed write with crayons - and embarass the entire community when you cannot use the proper terms.
People like you are why folks like me get prejudged as being dumb gear heads. Your stupidity and ignorance needs to be addressed before you ever get advice.
If you knew dick about AAS - you would know that you can get just about any compound in any concentration you want. But that would require klnowing something about the subject beyond what your ass-lick gym dealer tells you.
Fuckwad.
You could have ended the post with your first sentence and still effectively gotten your point across. Instead you chose to be insulting and really blow things out of proportion for no reason, which tells me you might need to lower your dosage a bit.
Please, oh masterful roid guru, address my ignorance so that I may one day be worthy of posting on here for advice. And you called ME a fuckwad…[/quote]
Is this really a dude or a chick with extreme PMS? I’m hiding my crayons as we speak.
Antman -
I just read your thread about being hooked up with TACHICK, and all the hell that such a mistake entails.
I take it all back, brother. You have taken way more shit than a person should have to endure in a lifetime. You don’t need me to be dog piling.
Please accept my apologies.