Gluck!
Haha… didn’t expect so much speculation. To be fair to Jarvan, while I’m definitely a beginner, I have done Olympic lifts before.
I did Crossfit for about 6 months back in 2011. That’s when I bought my bar and my brother got me the shoes for Christmas. I dropped from 155 lbs to a lean 135 lbs. With that being said, however, back then I struggled to do 135 for reps.
Long story short, I ended up commuting to LA every week for work and was working over 100 hours a week, so the gym just fell off. I went back at the end of 2012, but shattered my hand after a couple months (not Crossfit related) and haven’t been working out since other than one or two failed attempts at going to a globo gym.
I got a new job three months ago that actually affords me the time to workout, and that’s when I decided to make the commitment to get in shape. Other than ~9 months of Crossfit, this is all new to me (particularly nutrition), which is why I’m on here asking for help.
I’ll post a photo of when I started three months ago, but I think I’ve made decent progress since then.
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
Great work on the video, man.[/quote]
Thanks! I’ve been busting my ass the last 3 months. I worked my way up from 135.
Thanks for the ideas. I’m going to incorporate them this week.
OP this changes things because you already had decent technique when executing the 175lb power clean due to your prior crossfit training. This is an important factor. It is not the same as, for example, a deadlift where a beginner can jerk and muscle up a ridiculous amount of weight without prior training.
I’m still impressed btw. But I think you should conceed this one.
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I agree… If I had never done an olympic lift before, there’s no way I’d be cleaning 175 times right now.
Nowhere here did I say I’ve never picked up a bar before. Jarvan made that assumption (and it’s a pretty shitty one considering I stated I owned a bar and plates), so I let him run with it.
[quote]HurricaneBob01 wrote:
Nowhere here did I say I’ve never picked up a bar before.[/quote]
In this thread’s first post, you literally said “I just started training about 3 months ago”. We might have to call you HurricaneBarryBonds because there’s an asterisk on your beginner status.
Whatever. At the end of the day, it’s debatable how much carryover a few months of training 2-3 years ago would’ve had, with the layoff and injury between. Still, sucks that there was a “miscommunication” or whatever we want to call it.
You only said you owned a bar and some plates. I took that to mean you bought the gear because you decided to assemble a home gym and start training. I didn’t see anywhere that said you owned the stuff prior to three months ago.
Anyhow, I still say it’s not unimaginable that a beginner who actually cleans regularly can get up to that level in that timeframe. Dan John regularly gets high school kids to clean 175, 200, and 225 with basic, consistent training. An adult with a good plan should be able to do similar.
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
We might have to call you HurricaneBarryBonds because there’s an asterisk on your beginner status.[/quote]
Fair enough. Sorry for any confusions, but my body is so deconditioned I consider myself a beginner. I have updated my avatar to reflect the asterisk.
I competed at a national level in ice hockey when I was younger and was a wrestler in high school (13 years ago). I’ve done nothing athletic (aside from the ~9 months of Crossfit) since. Even when I did Crossfit, I was pretty weak.
I have had the bar for a while, but I bought the plates when I bought my house a year ago with the intention of starting a garage gym. I only started using them 3 months ago though.
LMAO @ the barry bonds avatar. Nice one.
Ha, yeah, definitely showing the right attitude with the Bonds pic.
[quote]HurricaneBob01 wrote:
I’m now playing ice hockey on Wednesday nights, so I need to rethink my schedule anyway. Any help here is much appreciated as well.[/quote]
On days you have games/practices, I’d either do a low volume session the morning of or the day after. But that also depends a bit on what the rest of your week ends up looking like.
Good stuff, like cleans but with essentially more ROM. Usually work them as the first exercise in a leg, shoulder, or back session (but doesn’t really lend itself to being supersetted with much). You want to keep them towards the front of the session to keep speed on the bar and avoid going into them fatigued.
Good to know I wasn’t the only one ‘fooled’
So gents, am I still rocking the avatar?
[quote]Jarvan wrote:
Good to know I wasn’t the only one ‘fooled’
So gents, am I still rocking the avatar?
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No, you were right.
Unless you want to lol.
[quote]Jarvan wrote:
Gluck![/quote]
Done. Turns out I’ve put on a lot of weight since I first started. Clearly most of it isn’t useful weight
[quote]Jarvan wrote:
Good to know I wasn’t the only one ‘fooled’
So gents, am I still rocking the avatar?
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You said to prove it, and I did. I say we leave it up to Colucci since he was the one that brokered the bet.
[quote]HurricaneBob01 wrote:
I say we leave it up to Colucci since he was the one that brokered the bet.[/quote]
Ha, I’m no authority, but I think since there’s a flag on the play but it was still carried to completion, a new avatar of Bob’s choice for 30 instead of 60 days seems fair.
Bob, you were disingenuous in this thread at best. Anyone who read this thread (including me) would have made the same assumptions Jarvan did. It’s not our fault that we ‘ran with that’, it’s your fault for being intentionally misleading and not correcting anyone when it became clear what the general consensus was.
If I was Jarvan, I wouldn’t do shit. 9 months of crossfit makes ALL the difference here. That’s 9 months of consistent coaching on the power clean, assuming your crossfit gym was even remotely like any of the ones I’ve spent time at. And let’s not forget YOU’RE the one who introduced the idea of the wager in the first place. Perhaps that would have been the time to clarify your position.
It’s a damn avatar, get over it guys.
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Bob, you were disingenuous in this thread at best. Anyone who read this thread (including me) would have made the same assumptions Jarvan did. It’s not our fault that we ‘ran with that’, it’s your fault for being intentionally misleading and not correcting anyone when it became clear what the general consensus was.
If I was Jarvan, I wouldn’t do shit. 9 months of crossfit makes ALL the difference here. That’s 9 months of consistent coaching on the power clean, assuming your crossfit gym was even remotely like any of the ones I’ve spent time at. And let’s not forget YOU’RE the one who introduced the idea of the wager in the first place. Perhaps that would have been the time to clarify your position.[/quote]
There’s a reason why I called him out. It took 3 pages of posts and nearly ten days for this kid Bob to come clean about having 9 months of CrossFit experience. Not sure if Bob wanted his ego stroked, or make a big entrance, but he clearly tried to deviate from the ‘whole truth’. It’s important because this is how disinformation spreads in forums like this. If we all continued to believe that Bob the beginner achieved a 1.2x bodyweight powerclean in a matter of 3 months, that would probably end up being the ‘stick’ other beginners begin to measure themselves by (in other words, frustrated and injured trainees). Of course, it is absolutely possible for beginners to achieve such feats, but it more likely happens under the tutelage of a great trainer, like Dan John as Colucci already mentioned.