Need Advice for Going Off of TRT (PCT)

Pharma / TRT Testosterone Replacement
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Hey guys. I am considering going off of TRT. I never had low testosterone to begin with. I just wanted higher levels for building muscle and libido, etc. But after two years of being on TRT, I want to go off and see how things go. Here is my current protocol and how I plan on stopping TRT (I guess you can call it PCT, even though I wasn’t on “cycle”).

Current protocol:

-250mg Test Cyp a week (125mg E3.5D)
-Arimidex 0.25mg EOD
-HCG 500IU 3x a week

Here is my proposed “PCT” protocol:

-Clomid 50mg ED x 2 weeks (starting 10 days after last injection, when my T levels should be around normal levels). Then 25mg ED x 2 weeks. (50/50/25/25)
-Continue HCG 500IU 3x a week just up until 4 days prior to starting Clomid.

I know I need to take Arimidex to control E2 and SHBG while taking Clomid, but I don’t know exactly how much. I am thinking maybe 0.2mg EOD while on Clomid 50, and then 0.1mg EOD while on Clomid 25?

I don’t want to accidentally crash my E2 while taking clomid, but I don’t want gyno either. Am I missing anything from my PCT protocol? Any tips? Thanks!

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Wondering the same. I’m restarting TRT and may want to come off again as well.

Edit: last time I just stopped cold turkey after 2-3 months I believe it was.

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It’ll take 5 half lives for the test to be out of your system and your HTPA will respond to a restart. Wait 3 weeks after your last T shot to start the SERM, 4-6 weeks of that.

Take the HCG during the 3 weeks from your final shot to starting your PCT.

Best of luck

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I wouldn’t take any. Your e2 will come down naturally as the test lowers, then it will come up a bit as your TT rises from the PCT. just let it be

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Last one: Clomid doesn’t lower e2 the way an AI would, and it’ll help protect against gyno (Nolva might be a better option tho, if you can get it)

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I’ll second this.

Take it as needed and sparingly.

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But doesn’t it matter how much test you were using? If someone is blasting 500mg a week, would that person also wait 3 weeks before starting PCT? Or would they wait longer?

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Three weeks is a general rule of thumb. Yes, it is dose and ester dependent. Coming off of trt, 2-3 weeks is probably about right. Since you were pushing the high end of trt @ 250mg/week test C, you’re probably closer to the 3 week mark.

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swoops 39 has you covered just follow his lead. No need to over think this.

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Why do you want off?

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Because TRT is not the holy grail of body building. It just replaces your broken balls output. If you want to build muscles you are in the wrong forum.

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More for the mental effects. Virtually everyone I’ve seen start high TRT carries himself with at least 3x the energy of everyone else.

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Nothing but placebo effects.

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Agreed :+1:

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500 >> 250 >> 125 >> 63 >> 32 roughly, so maybe waiting 4 weeks in that case would be better? Or even wait the whole 5 weeks so you know your brain is ready for the PCT.

Actually, that’s probably smarter no matter what your dose, but most guys get impatient and want to start right away cos they’re worried about the length of time they’re just waiting to do something and worried about gainz.

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What if I used topical Androgel during the 3 weeks waiting time before I start PCT? That way I won’t feel the crash from low T. From what I understand, Androgel has a short half life of about 24 hours.

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Never heard of that, but give it a shot. Maybe akin to taking orals at the end of the cycle to bridge into PCT

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Cool. Thanks for the tips!

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Well, I’m in my 30’s and I don’t know if I want to stay on it for the rest of my life. I’m kind of concerned about the all the body hair I have started to grow. And also worried about the hair on my head. It hasn’t started to fall out yet. But I don’t know what the long term affects would be…

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Hi James,
250mg of T cyp is not TRT it is a mini blast no matter how long you took it for.
I would suggest you ask this question in the pharma forum or ask a mod to move it there since not too many TRT guys will know anything about PCT.

Google How long does T cyp stay in your system?

You see effects within 2 days . After that, it levels off around 12 days and persists in the system for upwards of 21 days . It takes 44 total days for cypionate to leave the system.

With googles answer in mind you will stay shutdown for some time after you stop putting T in your body. IMO there is no tapering that will just slow your return to naddy. I would also cut back on the HCG. 1500IU/w is going to make a ton of E2. 500-800IU is more than enough.

I would also go buy mini blood test to monitor your progress.

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