[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Durant’s definitely got a shot. Was looking at his stats and didn’t realize how durable he is. Don’t think he’s ever missed more than 7 games in a season. For a lightly built guy who takes a fair amount of contact, that’s nuts.
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Very impressive, and we have been talking a lot about durability of 7-footers. KD lists himself at 6’9", but some speculate he is 7’0". I don’t think he is actually 7’0", but he is as tall as some players that list themselves at 7’0". Wouldn’t be the only player to lie about being shorter to avoid being classified as a center. I have heard many time KG did this as well to avoid being consider a center.
Of course this is a very nitpicky and depends if you are measuring shoes or no shoes, but impressive durability and I wish KD continued health and success. Class act and very exciting player.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Durant’s definitely got a shot. Was looking at his stats and didn’t realize how durable he is. Don’t think he’s ever missed more than 7 games in a season. For a lightly built guy who takes a fair amount of contact, that’s nuts.
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Very impressive, and we have been talking a lot about durability of 7-footers. KD lists himself at 6’9", but some speculate he is 7’0". I don’t think he is actually 7’0", but he is as tall as some players that list themselves at 7’0". Wouldn’t be the only player to lie about being shorter to avoid being classified as a center. I have heard many time KG did this as well to avoid being consider a center.
Of course this is a very nitpicky and depends if you are measuring shoes or no shoes, but impressive durability and I wish KD continued health and success. Class act and very exciting player.[/quote]
Who in their right mind lists their official height as being their height in shoes? lol
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Durant’s definitely got a shot. Was looking at his stats and didn’t realize how durable he is. Don’t think he’s ever missed more than 7 games in a season. For a lightly built guy who takes a fair amount of contact, that’s nuts.
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Very impressive, and we have been talking a lot about durability of 7-footers. KD lists himself at 6’9", but some speculate he is 7’0". I don’t think he is actually 7’0", but he is as tall as some players that list themselves at 7’0". Wouldn’t be the only player to lie about being shorter to avoid being classified as a center. I have heard many time KG did this as well to avoid being consider a center.
Of course this is a very nitpicky and depends if you are measuring shoes or no shoes, but impressive durability and I wish KD continued health and success. Class act and very exciting player.[/quote]
Who in their right mind lists their official height as being their height in shoes? lol[/quote]
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Durant’s definitely got a shot. Was looking at his stats and didn’t realize how durable he is. Don’t think he’s ever missed more than 7 games in a season. For a lightly built guy who takes a fair amount of contact, that’s nuts.
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Very impressive, and we have been talking a lot about durability of 7-footers. KD lists himself at 6’9", but some speculate he is 7’0". I don’t think he is actually 7’0", but he is as tall as some players that list themselves at 7’0". Wouldn’t be the only player to lie about being shorter to avoid being classified as a center. I have heard many time KG did this as well to avoid being consider a center.
Of course this is a very nitpicky and depends if you are measuring shoes or no shoes, but impressive durability and I wish KD continued health and success. Class act and very exciting player.[/quote]
Who in their right mind lists their official height as being their height in shoes? lol[/quote]
That’s how they list 'em at the NBA combine. They take measurements in socks and then shoes. Larry Johnson had a pretty good quite when he measured at 6’5" and change in socks and “experts” were questioning if he had the height to play the 4 he asked “who play’s ball barefoot?” Or something like that.
JMac, Durant’s bench was literally the first thing I thought of when I saw his games played average. Not only is he strong enough to survive the rigors of the league, he doesn’t miss games and averages 38 minutes a night doing it.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Who in their right mind lists their official height as being their height in shoes? lol[/quote]
I agree your height should be measured without shoes, but what height a professional athlete is listed at could be his height with shoes, without shoes, or maybe just the height he tells the team to list him at. I am just saying it is hard to compare guys. For example find a photo of team USA basketball, KD is taller than players that list themselves taller than him.
If a guy plays center he does not want to be consider too small so he adds an inch or two. If a guy plays small forward he does not want to be labeled as a big man so he subtracts an inch or two.
I think it is silly because no matter how tall KD is he is not a center. He plays small forward, and he plays it very well.
[quote]gregron wrote:
Who in their right mind lists their official height as being their height in shoes? lol[/quote]
I agree your height should be measured without shoes, but what height a professional athlete is listed at could be his height with shoes, without shoes, or maybe just the height he tells the team to list him at. I am just saying it is hard to compare guys. For example find a photo of team USA basketball, KD is taller than players that list themselves taller than him.
If a guy plays center he does not want to be consider too small so he adds an inch or two. If a guy plays small forward he does not want to be labeled as a big man so he subtracts an inch or two.
I think it is silly because no matter how tall KD is he is not a center. He plays small forward, and he plays it very well.[/quote]
Olajuwon’s 6’10" but they list him at 7’. Garnett’s 7’1"+ but they list him at 6’11". Apparently Wilt Chamberlain was sensitive about his height and though listed at 7’1" was actually closer to 7’3". I’ve been around several ball players and their stats are always a little off. TJ Ford’s listed at 6’ and change but he’s at least 6’2". Ron Mercer’s the biggest 6’7" 210 I’ve ever seen, etc…
A player’s listed height is almost always inflated and a general guideline of 2" is actually pretty accurate.
For example, Kobe Bryant is 6’6 and not the 6’8 you’ll sometimes see listed. And those overachievers like Millsap and Landry, they’re nowhere near 6’8 either.
In the case of Durant, he’s def got the wingspan of a 7-fter and that’s what makes his shot virtually unblockable. (see also: Nowitzki, Aldridge, Randolph)
edit - ok maybe not Randolph, but I never really see him get blocked and he’s got no lift, obviously
[quote]chillain wrote:
A player’s listed height is almost always inflated and a general guideline of 2" is actually pretty accurate.
For example, Kobe Bryant is 6’6 and not the 6’8 you’ll sometimes see listed. And those overachievers like Millsap and Landry, they’re nowhere near 6’8 either.
In the case of Durant, he’s def got the wingspan of a 7-fter and that’s what makes his shot virtually unblockable. (see also: Nowitzki, Aldridge, Randolph)
edit - ok maybe not Randolph, but I never really see him get blocked and he’s got no lift, obviously[/quote]
I’ve only ever seen Bryant listed at 6’6". Durant is closer to 7’ than 6’9", and his wingspan is like 7’4". Size is usually exaggerated upwards, but sometimes they downplay (Olajuwon, Garnett, Durant etc…). Also, LeBron James is closer to 240, not the 265 or whatever they list him at.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Could be wrong but think Exum will be a bust. Honestly think this whole draft class is weak.[/quote]
I never judge international players because I have no idea. I never actually watch these players and I only see highlight reels. Anyone can look good in their highlight reel. I remember when my T Wolves drafted Rubio, I did not think he would be any good. All I saw in highlights was Rubio making behind the back passes in the open court with no defense. That kind of film does not tell me much. You could be right on Exum, but I don’t know.
Overall I like a fair amount of players from this draft. Obviously the top 3 guys (if healthy). Other plays I particularly like are Randle, Payne, and Harris. Especially Harris at 19, I think he could have gone higher. Being a Big Ten guy I was very surprised Nik Stauskas was the first Big Ten player to go. I think Stauskas can contribute, but was not expecting him to go that high.
Not a huge fan of my T Wolves first round though, but that is normal.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Could be wrong but think Exum will be a bust. Honestly think this whole draft class is weak.[/quote]
I never judge international players because I have no idea. I never actually watch these players and I only see highlight reels. Anyone can look good in their highlight reel. I remember when my T Wolves drafted Rubio, I did not think he would be any good. All I saw in highlights was Rubio making behind the back passes in the open court with no defense. That kind of film does not tell me much. You could be right on Exum, but I don’t know.
Overall I like a fair amount of players from this draft. Obviously the top 3 guys (if healthy). Other plays I particularly like are Randle, Payne, and Harris. Especially Harris at 19, I think he could have gone higher. Being a Big Ten guy I was very surprised Nik Stauskas was the first Big Ten player to go. I think Stauskas can contribute, but was not expecting him to go that high.
Not a huge fan of my T Wolves first round though, but that is normal.[/quote]
Exum hasn’t played any serious comp and didn’t dominate the marginal comp he did play. To me this screams “Tskitishvili”. He also tested as a completely mediocre athlete at the combine and can’t shoot.
Parker, Randle and Smart are the 3 best picks to me. Blows my mind that Orlando would take Gordon at 4 and leave Randle on the table. They’ll regret that in the next few years. I like Stauskas. Can shoot the shit outta the ball and has a better handle and is a much better athlete than he’s given credit for. Think there were a few guys who dropped who should’ve been picked ahead some guys who went early.
I think that Hairston kid that Miami swapped for Napier is the real deal, possibly at the top of the list of ‘guys who should’ve gone earlier.’ D-League is certainly a higher average competition than college, and he absolutely tore it up, mostly with his shooting ability. It’s not like he was removed from UNC for criminal behavioral issues, he got caught taking some cash. That doesn’t eliminate a bad attitude, but it wouldn’t make me immediately jump to him having one.
[quote]red04 wrote:
I think that Hairston kid that Miami swapped for Napier is the real deal, possibly at the top of the list of ‘guys who should’ve gone earlier.’ D-League is certainly a higher average competition than college, and he absolutely tore it up, mostly with his shooting ability. It’s not like he was removed from UNC for criminal behavioral issues, he got caught taking some cash. That doesn’t eliminate a bad attitude, but it wouldn’t make me immediately jump to him having one.[/quote]
Didn’t realize Miami swapped picks. Has to make you wonder with as much James has been pumping Napier up… was lookin’ at Hairston’s D-League stats and he shot around 36% from the NBA three while taking 8 3’s a game. EIGHT. That’s some serious gunnin’. If he hadn’t have gotten in trouble and stayed at Carolina he probably goes lotto.
[quote]JMac31 wrote:
Lebron wants max. Will he get it is Miami? Elsewhere?
I thought with everyone opting out they were all getting ready to take less and upgrade the team. I guess not.[/quote]
Bosh and wade should play for $1 Mill a year. They’re lucky to share the court with LeBron and have him carry them every game.
James definitely deserves a raise. Why should he take less, a lot less, and get paid the same as Wade and Bosh when he is easily twice they player that they are?
If I’m him, I say “F That!” lol. Over his 4 years with Miami he’s missed out on $20+ MILLION dollars in salary that he could have earned. I don’t care who you are, $20 mil is a ton of money.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Kyrie signed the extension with the Cavs.
Just need to move jarret jack, and maybe dion waiters to clear up more than enough cap space…[/quote]
I think it would be cool for Lebron to go back to the Cavs, but I am not holding my breath. I was even more into the hometown thing before the season Joe Mauer is having lol. Though whenever Lebron signs his max deal I expect him to be dominant.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]JMac31 wrote:
Lebron wants max. Will he get it is Miami? Elsewhere?
I thought with everyone opting out they were all getting ready to take less and upgrade the team. I guess not.[/quote]
Bosh and wade should play for $1 Mill a year. They’re lucky to share the court with LeBron and have him carry them every game.
James definitely deserves a raise. Why should he take less, a lot less, and get paid the same as Wade and Bosh when he is easily twice they player that they are?
If I’m him, I say “F That!” lol. Over his 4 years with Miami he’s missed out on $20+ MILLION dollars in salary that he could have earned. I don’t care who you are, $20 mil is a ton of money.[/quote]
I don’t disagree. Never said James should take less. I just thought that was where it was heading given the way it went down last time and the fact all three opted out.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Kyrie signed the extension with the Cavs.
Just need to move jarret jack, and maybe dion waiters to clear up more than enough cap space…[/quote]
I think it would be cool for Lebron to go back to the Cavs, but I am not holding my breath. I was even more into the hometown thing before the season Joe Mauer is having lol. Though whenever Lebron signs his max deal I expect him to be dominant.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]JMac31 wrote:
Lebron wants max. Will he get it is Miami? Elsewhere?
I thought with everyone opting out they were all getting ready to take less and upgrade the team. I guess not.[/quote]
Bosh and wade should play for $1 Mill a year. They’re lucky to share the court with LeBron and have him carry them every game.
James definitely deserves a raise. Why should he take less, a lot less, and get paid the same as Wade and Bosh when he is easily twice they player that they are?
If I’m him, I say “F That!” lol. Over his 4 years with Miami he’s missed out on $20+ MILLION dollars in salary that he could have earned. I don’t care who you are, $20 mil is a ton of money.[/quote]
I don’t disagree. Never said James should take less. I just thought that was where it was heading given the way it went down last time and the fact all three opted out.
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It seems like an odd situation to put the Heat in. He’s apparently demanding they get better pieces to be more competitive, but he also wants max money which kind of hog ties 'em unless everyone coming in is ok with a pay cut.