Natural vs Bodybuilding with Steroids

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I’m all for being confident…but why are you talking about great genetics that you don’t seem to have?

If your physique is that great and your genetics are so good, let’s see some updated pics?
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im gonna post some pics soon[/quote]

I found your recent progress pic… MUst say i’m impressed

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I’m all for being confident…but why are you talking about great genetics that you don’t seem to have?

If your physique is that great and your genetics are so good, let’s see some updated pics?
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im gonna post some pics soon[/quote]

I found your recent progress pic… MUst say i’m impressed[/quote]

[quote]zraw wrote:
I like your attitutde newguy, you remind me of the honeybadgers. Fearless[/quote]

x2 this kid’s got spunk…hopped right in the den of lions and took them on one by one.

I see big things for you, keep up the intensity.

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

The first person i agreee 100% because i smell your kinda like ,e, brother i came to the gym man, i was skinny as fuck, like 130lbs… and everyone was laughing, you wana be a bodybuilder? gaining 20lbs in a year? your crazy and stuff like that.

Now ive gained nearly 50lbs, and im serious… it has to be all muscle BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SKIN, a little fat on my stomach, and thats it (a little, i think im around 6-7%) people start to talk shit, you’ve used this and that.

I just wana say, you won’t be offended by me bro, since your sincere.

Btw nice body man:D i see you do competitionss, nice bro:D whats yuour weight if i may ask and hhight?

[quote]detazathoth wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:
I like your attitutde newguy, you remind me of the honeybadgers. Fearless[/quote]

LOL

Fuckin’ lost it right here.

Hey man, good for you for gaining weight. I did too, I went from 125lbs to 215lbs, but shit, I know I’m not going to look like an IFBB BBer without drugs.

Lettuce be real.[/quote]

Bro i said afcourse i wont look like arnold, BUT I WILL COME DAMN CLOSE.

thats what i said.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

The first person i agreee 100% because i smell your kinda like ,e, brother i came to the gym man, i was skinny as fuck, like 130lbs… and everyone was laughing, you wana be a bodybuilder? gaining 20lbs in a year? your crazy and stuff like that.

Now ive gained nearly 50lbs, and im serious… it has to be all muscle BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SKIN, a little fat on my stomach, and thats it (a little, i think im around 6-7%) people start to talk shit, you’ve used this and that.

I just wana say, you won’t be offended by me bro, since your sincere.

Btw nice body man:D i see you do competitionss, nice bro:D whats yuour weight if i may ask and hhight?

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Do you think everyone’s always talking shit about you? Srs question

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:
my arms are 17inch, so you have 34inch arms? if mine can fitt in twice.
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False. I will teach you meh algebra wheys. In order for you to fit two of your arms into his, the area of his will need to be double yours (not circumference. And if you want to get crazy anal, the volume of his arm would have to be double yours).

Let’s figure out the diameter of your arm. You say you have 17" arms (noish, noish) which is the circumference (C) of your arm

C = pi*D

D = C/pi = 17"/pi = 5.41"

Area = pi*(D/2)^2 = pi(5.41/2)^2 = 23.0 square inches

So let’s double that, to get an area of 46.0 square inches

Solving for D:

D = 2*(A/pi)^0.5 = 2(46/pi)^0.5 = 7.65"

Finally, we can solve for the circumference

C = piD = pi7.65 = 24.0"

So, in order for you to fit two of your arms into his, he would need to have 24" arms, not 34". A bit more realistic.

Carry on . . .[/quote]

Mind blown.

Thats assuming his arms are actually 17" also, not the 15 or so they look. [/quote]

I’m a civil engineering major. There’s no way I was going to let that one go.
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Nice inteligence bro, and still he can’t have twice my arm lol.

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

The first person i agreee 100% because i smell your kinda like ,e, brother i came to the gym man, i was skinny as fuck, like 130lbs… and everyone was laughing, you wana be a bodybuilder? gaining 20lbs in a year? your crazy and stuff like that.

Now ive gained nearly 50lbs, and im serious… it has to be all muscle BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SKIN, a little fat on my stomach, and thats it (a little, i think im around 6-7%) people start to talk shit, you’ve used this and that.

I just wana say, you won’t be offended by me bro, since your sincere.

Btw nice body man:D i see you do competitionss, nice bro:D whats yuour weight if i may ask and hhight?

[/quote]
Do you think everyone’s always talking shit about you? Srs question[/quote]

I said i agreed with him? wut.

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:
my arms are 17inch, so you have 34inch arms? if mine can fitt in twice.
[/quote]

False. I will teach you meh algebra wheys. In order for you to fit two of your arms into his, the area of his will need to be double yours (not circumference. And if you want to get crazy anal, the volume of his arm would have to be double yours).

Let’s figure out the diameter of your arm. You say you have 17" arms (noish, noish) which is the circumference (C) of your arm

C = pi*D

D = C/pi = 17"/pi = 5.41"

Area = pi*(D/2)^2 = pi(5.41/2)^2 = 23.0 square inches

So let’s double that, to get an area of 46.0 square inches

Solving for D:

D = 2*(A/pi)^0.5 = 2(46/pi)^0.5 = 7.65"

Finally, we can solve for the circumference

C = piD = pi7.65 = 24.0"

So, in order for you to fit two of your arms into his, he would need to have 24" arms, not 34". A bit more realistic.

Carry on . . .[/quote]

Mind blown.

Thats assuming his arms are actually 17" also, not the 15 or so they look. [/quote]

I’m a civil engineering major. There’s no way I was going to let that one go.
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<3[/quote]

They were around 15’5 in that pic.

Im 6months further now, and another 1,5inch is added to my arms.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

The first person i agreee 100% because i smell your kinda like ,e, brother i came to the gym man, i was skinny as fuck, like 130lbs… and everyone was laughing, you wana be a bodybuilder? gaining 20lbs in a year? your crazy and stuff like that.

Now ive gained nearly 50lbs, and im serious… it has to be all muscle BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SKIN, a little fat on my stomach, and thats it (a little, i think im around 6-7%) people start to talk shit, you’ve used this and that.

I just wana say, you won’t be offended by me bro, since your sincere.

Btw nice body man:D i see you do competitionss, nice bro:D whats yuour weight if i may ask and hhight?

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Do you think everyone’s always talking shit about you? Srs question[/quote]

I said i agreed with him? wut.
[/quote]
I wasn’t remarking in regard to Stu’s commentary. In a lot of your posts, you refer to people talking shit about you in the gym or some place else. Makes you come across as overly defensive. That’s all I’m getting at.

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

The first person i agreee 100% because i smell your kinda like ,e, brother i came to the gym man, i was skinny as fuck, like 130lbs… and everyone was laughing, you wana be a bodybuilder? gaining 20lbs in a year? your crazy and stuff like that.

Now ive gained nearly 50lbs, and im serious… it has to be all muscle BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SKIN, a little fat on my stomach, and thats it (a little, i think im around 6-7%) people start to talk shit, you’ve used this and that.

I just wana say, you won’t be offended by me bro, since your sincere.

Btw nice body man:D i see you do competitionss, nice bro:D whats yuour weight if i may ask and hhight?

[/quote]
Do you think everyone’s always talking shit about you? Srs question[/quote]

I said i agreed with him? wut.
[/quote]
I wasn’t remarking in regard to Stu’s commentary. In a lot of your posts, you refer to people talking shit about you in the gym or some place else. Makes you come across as overly defensive. That’s all I’m getting at.[/quote]

Haha, you should see how it goes in the gym, they are really talking shit, its anoying.

he’s gotta be using, there’s no way around, and then tells me i told you 50lbs naturally was impossible or you wouldn’t be on the gear, wile i aint.

Nevermind i guess, im just paranoid about gaining weight and bodybuilding.

maby it will get me somewere in my future life, (i hope,) and yeah i know, not with this attitude.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]mjhq75 wrote:
What can a person reasonably achieve without the use of steroids? [/quote]

It doesnt matter what a PERSON can achieve. It matters what YOU can achieve.

Worry solely about yourself and save yourself the headache.

And hopefully with age youll realize that it’s poor etiquette to question or inquire about whether someone is using ILLEGAL drugs. It’s safe to say that if someone wants their history (or lack there of) of illegal activities known to the public, they would be known. [/quote]

Using steroids is not illegal. You could walk into any police station and tell them point blank, that you are using steroids. What are they going to do, arrest you. NO. They can’t touch you. If they find steroids on your person, then yes, they will arrest you.

illegality of steroids is merely political, nothing more. We as free people should not be ruled by what some so called law tells us what we can or can’t do. Nobody has the right to do that.

^^ RV just man up and post a pic.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

The first person i agreee 100% because i smell your kinda like ,e, brother i came to the gym man, i was skinny as fuck, like 130lbs… and everyone was laughing, you wana be a bodybuilder? gaining 20lbs in a year? your crazy and stuff like that.

Now ive gained nearly 50lbs, and im serious… it has to be all muscle BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SKIN, a little fat on my stomach, and thats it (a little, i think im around 6-7%) people start to talk shit, you’ve used this and that.

I just wana say, you won’t be offended by me bro, since your sincere.

Btw nice body man:D i see you do competitionss, nice bro:D whats yuour weight if i may ask and hhight?

[/quote]
Do you think everyone’s always talking shit about you? Srs question[/quote]

I said i agreed with him? wut.
[/quote]
I wasn’t remarking in regard to Stu’s commentary. In a lot of your posts, you refer to people talking shit about you in the gym or some place else. Makes you come across as overly defensive. That’s all I’m getting at.[/quote]

Haha, you should see how it goes in the gym, they are really talking shit, its anoying.

he’s gotta be using, there’s no way around, and then tells me i told you 50lbs naturally was impossible or you wouldn’t be on the gear, wile i aint.

Nevermind i guess, im just paranoid about gaining weight and bodybuilding.

maby it will get me somewere in my future life, (i hope,) and yeah i know, not with this attitude.[/quote]

Youngbodybuilder only a fucking moron would think you are on steroids. Can you even rep you BW on squats?

GTFO

I don’t think you quite understand how lean “6-7%” body fat is. If you were really that low, you would be ABSOLUTELY RIPPED TO THE FUCKING BONE at your height and weight which, judging by your pictures, you’re very much not. I’d put you at 12-15%, which is still probably optimistic.

Still waiting for a recent pic if you’d like to prove me wrong.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:
Its like when a person has been poor their whole life, then they get a decent job making average money, but much more than in their past and litterally overnight with their first paycheck. They think they are Rockafeller, showing off, buyng everyone drinks at the bar, new clothes and crap. Its the same thing with skinny bitches who make some newbie gains. Start wearing cutoff shirts to the gym, posting their pictures on year old threads that have nothing to do with them, that kind of stuff.

Cool dude, your physique went from the poverty level to middle class in a year. Your still middle class. And now your showing off your new Seiko watch to the cats here who wear Tags and Rolex and are confused at why they are not impressed?

[/quote]

Dude im rubbing my dick wile thinking about you.

Sounds funny enough?

You lil prick ass thick dick, poverty level my asss bra, i had the genetics since u were in your dipers.[/quote]

Yeah…see the thing about that is id rather you didnt. Youll grow hair on your palms.

LOL at Achilles last two posts!

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

The first person i agreee 100% because i smell your kinda like ,e, brother i came to the gym man, i was skinny as fuck, like 130lbs… and everyone was laughing, you wana be a bodybuilder? gaining 20lbs in a year? your crazy and stuff like that.

Now ive gained nearly 50lbs, and im serious… it has to be all muscle BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SKIN, a little fat on my stomach, and thats it (a little, i think im around 6-7%) people start to talk shit, you’ve used this and that.

I just wana say, you won’t be offended by me bro, since your sincere.

Btw nice body man:D i see you do competitionss, nice bro:D whats yuour weight if i may ask and hhight?

[/quote]
Do you think everyone’s always talking shit about you? Srs question[/quote]

I said i agreed with him? wut.
[/quote]
I wasn’t remarking in regard to Stu’s commentary. In a lot of your posts, you refer to people talking shit about you in the gym or some place else. Makes you come across as overly defensive. That’s all I’m getting at.[/quote]

Haha, you should see how it goes in the gym, they are really talking shit, its anoying.

he’s gotta be using, there’s no way around, and then tells me i told you 50lbs naturally was impossible or you wouldn’t be on the gear, wile i aint.

Nevermind i guess, im just paranoid about gaining weight and bodybuilding.

maby it will get me somewere in my future life, (i hope,) and yeah i know, not with this attitude.[/quote]

Youngbodybuilder only a fucking moron would think you are on steroids. Can you even rep you BW on squats?

GTFO[/quote]

I benchpress exactly twice my weight for 2 reps, as goes for legs, i got a bad back, i dont squat etc, i do leg presses etc, i used to squat 160kg for 8 reps, thats i think like 320lbs, not sure though, or 330? maby thats shit for you? but im 180lbs… so.

And i bet id beat any of you in arm-wrestling.

^^LOL @ you benching 360 for a double. Come on man.

You’re blowing your troll load all in one thread… just FYI.

if… and that is a HUGE if, you’re not trolling (which you have to be cause no one could possibly be serious when writing the things that you’ve been writting) then you should probably look at what you’ve been saying.

You’re probably not going to get very far in life with the attitude that you are currently displaying. A little humility will take you a long way in life and thats a lesson thats better learned sooner rather than later. Keep your ears open, your mouth closed, keep hitting the iron hard and you can reach your goals.

Good luck with your goals.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

The first person i agreee 100% because i smell your kinda like ,e, brother i came to the gym man, i was skinny as fuck, like 130lbs… and everyone was laughing, you wana be a bodybuilder? gaining 20lbs in a year? your crazy and stuff like that.

Now ive gained nearly 50lbs, and im serious… it has to be all muscle BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SKIN, a little fat on my stomach, and thats it (a little, i think im around 6-7%) people start to talk shit, you’ve used this and that.

I just wana say, you won’t be offended by me bro, since your sincere.

Btw nice body man:D i see you do competitionss, nice bro:D whats yuour weight if i may ask and hhight?

[/quote]
Do you think everyone’s always talking shit about you? Srs question[/quote]

I said i agreed with him? wut.
[/quote]
I wasn’t remarking in regard to Stu’s commentary. In a lot of your posts, you refer to people talking shit about you in the gym or some place else. Makes you come across as overly defensive. That’s all I’m getting at.[/quote]

Haha, you should see how it goes in the gym, they are really talking shit, its anoying.

he’s gotta be using, there’s no way around, and then tells me i told you 50lbs naturally was impossible or you wouldn’t be on the gear, wile i aint.

Nevermind i guess, im just paranoid about gaining weight and bodybuilding.

maby it will get me somewere in my future life, (i hope,) and yeah i know, not with this attitude.[/quote]

Youngbodybuilder only a fucking moron would think you are on steroids. Can you even rep you BW on squats?

GTFO[/quote]

I benchpress exactly twice my weight for 2 reps, as goes for legs, i got a bad back, i dont squat etc, i do leg presses etc, i used to squat 160kg for 8 reps, thats i think like 320lbs, not sure though, or 330? maby thats shit for you? but im 180lbs… so.

And i bet id beat any of you in arm-wrestling.
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First off, GTFO TROLL you could not beat half of us arm wrestling, where the fuck did you get that?

Second, I am calling BS on you benching 360 for 2, is that incomprehensible? NO but with your shit physique I am calling BS, I would say maybe and this is a huge MAYBE you are putting up high 200’s.

Honestly your body reminds me of 8th grade