Natural vs Bodybuilding with Steroids

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I’m all for being confident…but why are you talking about great genetics that you don’t seem to have?

If your physique is that great and your genetics are so good, let’s see some updated pics?
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im gonna post some pics soon

A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S

[quote]zraw wrote:
I like your attitutde newguy, you remind me of the honeybadgers. Fearless[/quote]

LOL

Fuckin’ lost it right here.

Hey man, good for you for gaining weight. I did too, I went from 125lbs to 215lbs, but shit, I know I’m not going to look like an IFBB BBer without drugs.

Lettuce be real.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
you could fit two of you inside of me
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???

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

Very well put Stu. On a side note i am suprised you are even attempting to read this insane thread.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I’m all for being confident…but why are you talking about great genetics that you don’t seem to have?

If your physique is that great and your genetics are so good, let’s see some updated pics?
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im gonna post some pics soon, and then ____ ____ those toothpicks.[/quote]

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
A few thoughts…

I would never go out of my way to tell someone what they can or can’t achieve, but I’m also a big of being realistic, humble, and busting my ass to quietly prove naysayers wrong.

No one knows their true genetic potential until they finally bump up against it. Of course I can honestly admit that on my best day, I’m won’t magically have the full muscle bellies of Cordova. I certainly won’t lose any sleep over it though and I’ll still bust my ass every single day trying to continue making progress.

It’s a hell of a lot more impressive for people to acknowledge work you’ve done than to try and get them to be impressed by telling them what you’re going to do.

S[/quote]

This, this, and this.

One pic is worth 10000 posts.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

im gonna post some pics soon, and then ____ ____ those toothpicks.

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[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]mjhq75 wrote:
Hey you guys. I have really been working out hard lately, eating like a fiend, sleeping well, and following the mountain dog to a tee. in the last 2 and a half months I have gained 17 pounds and my strength has gone way up. Also, I do not look down upon steroids, it’s part of the sport and can be used responsibly. Anyways, if I was ever to use steroids it would be years in the future, as I am still making gains and I am only 19 years old. But my I just want to be like Franco Columbu, or Coleman or something like that. What can a person reasonably achieve without the use of steroids? Do you guys think John Meadows takes steroids?[/quote]

Yoo man, im also 19, and I think its possible with the best genetics but, you’ll look diffrently than arnold, Ive speculated and i would be same weight as arnold if i would be 200lbs, cause im shorter than him, but id never have that chest, or biceps, I got big triceps and a BIG back, my chest is in PROPORTION, and BICEPS also, but you can see which muscle im geneticly gifted in, that would be the same with you, You’ll never look like that, but you will look-alike, but this is a goal you should set in 10 years man,

I’ve started working out 1,2years ago and i’ve gained 48lbs wile dropping fat from 12 to 7%, and i already notice its verry difficult to gain now, i stand at 5’9, weighing 180lbs. 7% bodyfat.[/quote]

Hate to break it to ya bro, but you’re not looking like any of those guys listed without using.
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I love to hear this bro, since im natural its so funny and pleasing to me, you sound like the people in my gym that havnt seen me.

Anyway bro, I’ve never used anything in my life, exept creatine and whey powder…

Not everyone uses steroids bro, there are also genetics.-.-
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LOLLL @ saying this to a natty god with superior genetics and amazing work ethic. So dumb so so dumb.

So dumb for thinking ebomb meant you looked amazing and had obviously used when what he said was that you were not gonna look like coleman or colombu or meadows without using
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Oh my god i didnt even realize that he may have taken Ebomb’s comment that way. LOL

Praying that he doesnt actually think Ebomb was complimenting his 8th grade physique[/quote]

and for second, you fat prick, i just saw your profile pic haah, and ive got bigger lats than you, i hardly see any V taper there bro.

HAHA 8th grade physique, your more like the 10 year old MCdonnald kid, 8th grade physique, your a fucking retard, NAME FUCKING 2 PEOPLE THAT GAINED 48LBS CLEAN in a FUCKING YEAR AND then SAY IVE GOT BAD GENETICS, you FAT FUCK.

Strip down your exessive fat and then start talking to me.
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lol i am 6’3 and 280 lbs at sub 20% bf. For a natural just coming off a bulk i’d say thats pretty fucking good. you could fit two of you inside of me, and i guarantee i warmup with the best lifts you can muster.

BTW between march of 2010 and march 2011 i gained 70 lbs, staying under 18% bodyfat.

You are tiny, get over it. You had some easy newb gains, everyone does. They will come much slower. You are not a special snowflake. You are not the exception. In fact, compared to other naturals around here like Ebomb and Stu (which for the record i am also natty) you are complete shit.

No one cares what you are going to do, it doesnt mean shit until you do. I’ve carried nearly 300 lbs on my frame at sub 20% bf, how many people can say that? You havent done shit yet, and until you do no one cares what the fuck you claim. [/quote]

Yeah those gains id like to see a picture, #1, TWO, my arms are 17inch, so you have 34inch arms? if mine can fitt in twice.

And third, ITS ALL ABOUT WHAT UR AIMING FOR, 300LBS on your frame just means that your an endomorph. and for the rest, you’ve been working your intire life man. haha newby gains everyone has them, yeah bro, everyone i DONT SEE AROUND, ive gained like 1.4inch every month since ive started working out and so far still going up.

Tiny my ass, those pictures were from 6months ago, I’ve gained 10KG PURE MUSCLE since then, so i dont know what your shitting about, wait till i get some new pics. ;D, and still man, if you was smart you’d confess that 180lbs CLEAN is not NOTHING, especially if done in 1year time.

Nevermind as your to concentrated in trying to offend me.
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You want to see a picture? Fine. This is me december 2009, AFTER i had already put 25 lbs on. I was 25lbs lighter than that when i started, same height. Compare that to my pic now.

And i think you’re the one trying to offend me, which is why you sent me a PM calling me a “biych” and saying youd squash me in three and blah blah blah.

Your pics right there, you arent very big. If you’re making the progress you say you are, im sure you will one day be there, but right now you should tone down the attitude.

Im all the way on the right. no thats not a noose.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
you could fit two of you inside of me
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LOL!

why you gotta go there?

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
you could fit two of you inside of me
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LOL!

why you gotta go there?[/quote]

hahaha you said it, not me.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:
my arms are 17inch, so you have 34inch arms? if mine can fitt in twice.
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False. I will teach you meh algebra wheys.

Let’s figure out the diameter of your arm. You say you have 17" arms (noish, noish) which is the circumference (C) of your arm

C = pi*D

D = C/pi = 17"/pi = 5.41"

Area = pi*(D/2)^2 = pi(5.41/2)^2 = 23.0 square inches

So let’s double that, with an area of 46.0 square inches

Solving for D:

D = 2*(A/pi)^0.5 = 2(46/pi)^0.5 = 7.65"

Finally, we can solve for the circumference

C = piD = pi7.65 = 24.0"

So, in order for you to fit two of your arms into his, he would need to have 24" arms, not 34". A bit more realistic.

Carry on . . .

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:
my arms are 17inch, so you have 34inch arms? if mine can fitt in twice.
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False. I will teach you meh algebra wheys. In order for you to fit two of your arms into his, the area of his will need to be double yours (not circumference. And if you want to get crazy anal, the volume of his arm would have to be double yours).

Let’s figure out the diameter of your arm. You say you have 17" arms (noish, noish) which is the circumference (C) of your arm

C = pi*D

D = C/pi = 17"/pi = 5.41"

Area = pi*(D/2)^2 = pi(5.41/2)^2 = 23.0 square inches

So let’s double that, to get an area of 46.0 square inches

Solving for D:

D = 2*(A/pi)^0.5 = 2(46/pi)^0.5 = 7.65"

Finally, we can solve for the circumference

C = piD = pi7.65 = 24.0"

So, in order for you to fit two of your arms into his, he would need to have 24" arms, not 34". A bit more realistic.

Carry on . . .[/quote]

Mind blown.

Thats assuming his arms are actually 17" also, not the 15 or so they look.

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:
my arms are 17inch, so you have 34inch arms? if mine can fitt in twice.
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False. I will teach you meh algebra wheys. In order for you to fit two of your arms into his, the area of his will need to be double yours (not circumference. And if you want to get crazy anal, the volume of his arm would have to be double yours).

Let’s figure out the diameter of your arm. You say you have 17" arms (noish, noish) which is the circumference (C) of your arm

C = pi*D

D = C/pi = 17"/pi = 5.41"

Area = pi*(D/2)^2 = pi(5.41/2)^2 = 23.0 square inches

So let’s double that, to get an area of 46.0 square inches

Solving for D:

D = 2*(A/pi)^0.5 = 2(46/pi)^0.5 = 7.65"

Finally, we can solve for the circumference

C = piD = pi7.65 = 24.0"

So, in order for you to fit two of your arms into his, he would need to have 24" arms, not 34". A bit more realistic.

Carry on . . .[/quote]

Mind blown.

Thats assuming his arms are actually 17" also, not the 15 or so they look. [/quote]

I’m a civil engineering major. There’s no way I was going to let that one go.

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
I’m all for being confident…but why are you talking about great genetics that you don’t seem to have?

If your physique is that great and your genetics are so good, let’s see some updated pics?
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im gonna post some pics soon[/quote]
your posts are poison … we’ll all be dead soon …

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:
my arms are 17inch, so you have 34inch arms? if mine can fitt in twice.
[/quote]

False. I will teach you meh algebra wheys. In order for you to fit two of your arms into his, the area of his will need to be double yours (not circumference. And if you want to get crazy anal, the volume of his arm would have to be double yours).

Let’s figure out the diameter of your arm. You say you have 17" arms (noish, noish) which is the circumference (C) of your arm

C = pi*D

D = C/pi = 17"/pi = 5.41"

Area = pi*(D/2)^2 = pi(5.41/2)^2 = 23.0 square inches

So let’s double that, to get an area of 46.0 square inches

Solving for D:

D = 2*(A/pi)^0.5 = 2(46/pi)^0.5 = 7.65"

Finally, we can solve for the circumference

C = piD = pi7.65 = 24.0"

So, in order for you to fit two of your arms into his, he would need to have 24" arms, not 34". A bit more realistic.

Carry on . . .[/quote]

Mind blown.

Thats assuming his arms are actually 17" also, not the 15 or so they look. [/quote]

I’m a civil engineering major. There’s no way I was going to let that one go.
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<3

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Thats assuming his arms are actually 17" also, not the 15 or so they look. [/quote]
Half that “size” in the pic is the shadow on the wall from the flash. I’m guessing 14 inches. Half the size of 20 inch arms.

maths is awesome.

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]youngbodybuilder wrote:
my arms are 17inch, so you have 34inch arms? if mine can fitt in twice.
[/quote]

False. I will teach you meh algebra wheys. In order for you to fit two of your arms into his, the area of his will need to be double yours (not circumference. And if you want to get crazy anal, the volume of his arm would have to be double yours).

Let’s figure out the diameter of your arm. You say you have 17" arms (noish, noish) which is the circumference (C) of your arm

C = pi*D

D = C/pi = 17"/pi = 5.41"

Area = pi*(D/2)^2 = pi(5.41/2)^2 = 23.0 square inches

So let’s double that, to get an area of 46.0 square inches

Solving for D:

D = 2*(A/pi)^0.5 = 2(46/pi)^0.5 = 7.65"

Finally, we can solve for the circumference

C = piD = pi7.65 = 24.0"

So, in order for you to fit two of your arms into his, he would need to have 24" arms, not 34". A bit more realistic.

Carry on . . .[/quote]

Mind blown.

Thats assuming his arms are actually 17" also, not the 15 or so they look. [/quote]

I’m a civil engineering major. There’s no way I was going to let that one go.
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You done good kid, you done good <3