'Natural' Levels vs TRT Levels?

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I didnt intend to be misleading… i’m really not a science-guy with a deep understanding of all discussed above.

My question was actually as simple as i stated, but i can make it more general;

A young healty 21y old person with a 1000ng/ml Testosterone (measured in the morning) versus a 40y old male with a ‘general’ level of 1000ng/dl on TRT…

I know the question(s) are perhaps not specific enough, but i wasnt really overthinking or analysing it to much.

I just wanted to know if someone on TRT has a benefit over some other person with normal-high Testosterone levels from a sport perspective.

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Yes, TRT guy will have an advantage because his hormones are not dependent on sleep, stress, food, etc.

If natty guy’s free Test (and all other related hormones) remained exactly the same as if he was on TRT, then the two would be equal.

Are you the 21 year old in the above example?

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Edited, thanks for keeping me honest.

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I suppose the OP could have started this thread for a clinical discussion of comparing the efficacy of endogenous and exogenous testosterone. I can easily see @anon18050987 and some others doing so. But when a “stranger” makes the same inquiry, I first believe it is to some pragmatic end.

A decision to turn to TRT is very close to a lifetime decision. Had my testosterone not been so pitifully low (270ng/dL in my mid 50’s) I would have not turned to TRT. And at 73 I am still on TRT, and I suppose I will for the rest of my life.

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I would think it would need to be a range over time, not a single data point. So test the natural for 8 weeks and take the average, and test the TRT user for 8 weeks, peak and trough, and also take the average. That would be a better comparison

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No, i’m the 40y old.

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TRT would ofcourse be beneficial because you have more consistent levels of T in the body, and you will proably have higher levels than someone who is not on T.

Especialy in 2022, when we know for a fact (through studies) that men have much lwoer T than their forefathers.

If we could only compare the men of old versus new… wait we can. just look at society today and where we are headed.

T is way more than buildling muscle and how we look. Its how men behave and operate … their health. their energy levels. their attitude.

lots has changed over hte years and part of those chagnes are a decline in hormone levels.

You would always top your levels off regardless of what the body wants to do

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I wonder how much of the ‘Grumpy Old Man’ stereotype is due to low testosterone levels?

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massive brother massive.

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