[quote]baretta wrote:
Try popping your collar when i’m hitting you on the head with a rock pretty boy…hooooohaaaaaa[/quote]
Classic!
[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
LOL @ obo. You’re what, 18-19? It’s pretty obvious that you just started college last fall.
Listen, let me share some great experience I’ve learned in my 21 years on this Earth:
People as young as you and I both are don’t know jack shit. We’re idiots. Every single inspriation and epiphany we’ve ever had are nothing but some souped up reruns from the older generations.
Twice now you’ve started threads like this, and attempted to share great insight and wisdom. But dude, you’re a moron. It’s insulting to ME, and I’m nothing but a 21 year old punk. I can only imagine how someone who was raising a family when you were shitting your diapers feels when you do this.
You replied in this thread, and it seems like you enjoy thinking how riled up all the posters get when you expose our insecurities. I can only speak for myself, but I’m plenty secure in what I can do and in who I am. My response to this thread is not rooted from any sort of deep-seeded insecurity, but more aggravation that young people think they have any sort of perspective on life to be making these sorts of sweeping generalizations. Because we don’t.
YOU don’t. So stop.[/quote]
Well said. I am 39 years old and I don’t know jack shit either. However I do know enough not to project my motivations on others.
[quote]Northcott wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Pumping and flexing is no more or less vain than devoting one’s life to feeding homeless orphans.
I don’t believe that for a moment. Philosophies of justification have always rung hollow to me.
[/quote]
Mother Theresa was a vain selfish bitch.
[quote]David_Wise wrote:
Correction:
Nuclear Bomb beats Rock, Paper, and Scissors. That’s hardly every damn thing.
Twice now you’ve started threads like this, and attempted to share great insight and wisdom. But dude, you’re a moron. It’s insulting to ME, and I’m nothing but a 21 year old punk. I can only imagine how someone who was raising a family when you were shitting your diapers feels when you do this.[/quote]
We are torn between wanting to help this confused kid and wanting to laugh at him.
Since he doesn’t seem to listen we just end up laughing.
[quote]oboffill wrote:
How else can you explain lifting weights but narcissism? We obviously love our bodies to the point where we eat every few hours, lift unnecessarily heavy weights, look at our bodies in the mirror.
We fuel our egos, fashion ourselves cavemen or warriors, feel good about hitting a heavy set of deadlifts.
Step back and look at the world in which we live. This heavy lifting shit is unnecessary for survival. We have all the convieniences of science and technology to NOT have to worry about extreme amounts of strength and fitness.
We fall in love with that beautiful human looking back at us in the flowing stream in the forest. [/quote]
hmmm…if i tried to play aussie rules footy looking like i did say 3 years ago w/o any work on my body…id be in a whole world of shit…so it IS necessary for survival.
maybe you just like to wank off to skinny thing you see in the mirrow lol
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Mother Theresa was a vain selfish bitch.[/quote]
You prick. 
I think I just lost about five minutes of work from laughing. The image of Zap spouting this line damn near floored me for some reason.
I’ll chalk it up to sleep deprivation.
I’m just trying to sensitively suggest to ob that he shouldn’t be posting this crap. Coming right out and posting it on a site described as ‘dangerously hardcore’ shows a certain amount of testicularity. If he does this one more time, I’m going to start laughing at the little shit.
I train to be strong in mind and body. It gives me confidence and has taught me how to overcome. It has taught me how to find that hidden strength in myself and draw from it. I know if I can walk into the gym and challenge myself like this, if I can do this, I can do anything.
That’s why.
Man is distinguished from the animal kingdom and is the dominant organism because we struggle with our brain not with our body.
In today’s society “we” as a species are stuggling with our bodies rather than our brains. If our brains were so dominant why would most of the population smoke, drink, eat like shit and live apathetic lives. Isn’t this counter-intuitive to a “survival of the fittest” mentality.
Imagine the progess we could have made and the torment we could have avoided if our species existed on the principles of health and well-being. If anything, those who lift and maintain personal fitness are to be considered above those who live in a degenerative state.
In this sense, I have the utmost respect for those who combine brains and body.
[quote]JeffnOnt wrote:
Man is distinguished from the animal kingdom and is the dominant organism because we struggle with our brain not with our body.
In today’s society “we” as a species are stuggling with our bodies rather than our brains. If our brains were so dominant why would most of the population smoke, drink, eat like shit and live apathetic lives. Isn’t this counter-intuitive to a “survival of the fittest” mentality.
Imagine the progess we could have made and the torment we could have avoided if our species existed on the principles of health and well-being. If anything, those who lift and maintain personal fitness are to be considered above those who live in a degenerative state.
In this sense, I have the utmost respect for those who combine brains and body.
[/quote]
Drinking, smoking, and a lack of personal fitness don’t seem to be inhibiting society that much. Health and well-being improve the quality of life of people but I don’t see them as being one of the bigger issues of society. The fact that we toil with our bodies but maintain a state of order and progress (overall) shows how dependent we are on our brain over our bodies.
This weight lifting is a hobby, like any other. I also enjoy the outdoors and read a lot of books.
You argue that bodybuilding is unnecessary due to “the modern, easy life”. Yet it’s that very easy life that makes all our pasttimes a necessity.
What should I do instead - rather that which I enjoy, and that which makes me a better person?
If you really want to see the alternative, take a look at those people around you. Yes, those ones. Try not to puke.
How on earth can anyone berate someone for doing ANYTHING that keeps them fit and healthy when everywhere you look are people shoving pie in their faces, causing your health insurance rates to skyrocket?
I have a few acquaintances as stupid as you - when I lost that extra 100 pounds of fat and got to 12% bf people started asking me if I was sick or anorexic rolls eyes
[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
LOL @ obo. You’re what, 18-19? It’s pretty obvious that you just started college last fall.
Listen, let me share some great experience I’ve learned in my 21 years on this Earth:
People as young as you and I both are don’t know jack shit. We’re idiots. Every single inspriation and epiphany we’ve ever had are nothing but some souped up reruns from the older generations.
Twice now you’ve started threads like this, and attempted to share great insight and wisdom. But dude, you’re a moron. It’s insulting to ME, and I’m nothing but a 21 year old punk. I can only imagine how someone who was raising a family when you were shitting your diapers feels when you do this.
You replied in this thread, and it seems like you enjoy thinking how riled up all the posters get when you expose our insecurities. I can only speak for myself, but I’m plenty secure in what I can do and in who I am. My response to this thread is not rooted from any sort of deep-seeded insecurity, but more aggravation that young people think they have any sort of perspective on life to be making these sorts of sweeping generalizations. Because we don’t.
YOU don’t. So stop.[/quote]
Well, you just gained the respect of this 33-year-old. And anyone who uses Roland of Gilead as his avatar can’t be that much of a punk. 
Wow, if you go back and read my original post with an open mind you’d realize that I was not criticising anybody.
Basically all I said is that we love ourselves so much that we put above average amounts of stress on our bodies (mostly) to look good.
Damn overreactors.
[quote]TJCooker wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
If I love the man in the mirror, does that make me gay? (nttawwt)
DB
That, and your avatar.[/quote]
you can’t possibly be ripping on Animal, right? He rocks(ed).
DB
[quote]oboffill wrote:
Wow, if you go back and read my original post with an open mind you’d realize that I was not criticising anybody.
Basically all I said is that we love ourselves so much that we put above average amounts of stress on our bodies (mostly) to look good.
Damn overreactors. [/quote]
cough bullshit cough
[quote]oboffill wrote:
Wow, if you go back and read my original post with an open mind you’d realize that I was not criticising anybody.
Basically all I said is that we love ourselves so much that we put above average amounts of stress on our bodies (mostly) to look good.
Damn overreactors. [/quote]
If that’s all you said, what was all that other crap you spewed forth?
Perhaps all of your philosophy clouded your own brain so that it took this long to figure out what you meant and restate it.
Next time, cut out all the bullshit flowery language and say what you mean and quit wasting all of this time!
You fruitless masturbator.
DB
[quote]Professor X wrote:
oboffill wrote:
How else can you explain lifting weights but narcissism? We obviously love our bodies to the point where we eat every few hours, lift unnecessarily heavy weights, look at our bodies in the mirror.
We fuel our egos, fashion ourselves cavemen or warriors, feel good about hitting a heavy set of deadlifts.
Step back and look at the world in which we live. This heavy lifting shit is unnecessary for survival. We have all the convieniences of science and technology to NOT have to worry about extreme amounts of strength and fitness.
We fall in love with that beautiful human looking back at us in the flowing stream in the forest.
So, the goal in life is to not care what shape you are in, how you look or how you eat? This is a bodybuilding forum. No one is making you stay. Don’t let the door strike you in the ass on the way out.[/quote]
amen to that, no wait! i did’nt mean amen i meant…uhh… i agree. fhew, that was a close one. oh and i thought it was “don’t let the door hit ya, where the dog shoulda bit ya”.
dont know if this was brought up or not.
but i think people do lift weights as part of a survival mechanism.
Females are attracted to men who look good and a fit healthy body is attractive.
health aside - if you sit around being fat all your life, you may not attract a mate, and you would die without procreating.
Obviously a percentage of people wont and that doesnt hurt us as a species over all, but humans are not wired for only certain percentage to think like that, everyone is wired to think like that (except homosexual types)
so to me the bottom line is we are genetically hardwired to procreate and do what we can do attract a mate.
since both sexes are visual (men more than woman obviously)
just look at what women do to make them selves attractive to men (hair, makeup and thin body)
lifting weights is certainly part of a method of survival and in my opinion there is nothing narcissistic about it
[quote]oboffill wrote:
Wow, if you go back and read my original post with an open mind you’d realize that I was not criticising anybody.
Basically all I said is that we love ourselves so much that we put above average amounts of stress on our bodies (mostly) to look good.
Damn overreactors. [/quote]
Oh sure, now we have poor reading comprehension skills? We’re closed minded? Izat what yer trying to say?
Next you gonna accuse us of being adversarial?
Man I oughta…
Realy though, with the title and opening post setting the tone, and with consideration given to the audience you are addressing, what kind of reaction did you think you would get?
Might I suggest something along the lines of “Examining Motives” or “What Drives Us to Strive So Hard” instead of using a list of negative coping mechanisms/personality disorders.
You may get a better response.