[quote]vroom wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
I am being consistant dumbass. I’ve never strayed from my position that nagin’s speech held racist undertones, so again, go fuck yourself. Did I make this up as wild shit?:
You are such an idiot. I wasn’t talking about your position you clown. I was talking about the fact that you allow yourself to read between the lines but you don’t allow others to do so. How can you not see that as inconsistent.
No I didn’t. But thanks for playing. Am I racist for thinking that nagin is nuts for saying this, not too mention his remarks about hispanics overrunning his city? You seem to think so, so it must be true right?
Oh, now that you realize your position on this statement is weak, you need to go to some other statement instead? Look, I haven’t seen the statements made concerning hispanics. If they were as you characterize them, then they would be racist, but you seem to be pretty shitty at interpreting what people say, I’ll wait for the real quotes… perhaps in an appropriate thread. This thread happens to be about a certain speech.[/quote]
As I said to x, you’re both right. His other racist diatribe shoud be held for another thread.
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Why? because I disagree with you? I didn’t realize that you were the end all be all in regards to the credibility department. You truly are a condecending fuck.
Ahahahaha. You ass. You have no credibility because you won’t answer peoples questions, you apply different rules to yourself than others, and you simply make shit up to support your viewpoint. I’m not condescending in any way when I say these things. Oh, yes, that reminds me, you don’t even know the meaning of the words you are arguing about. That makes you stupid, or at least ignorant, it doesn’t make me condescending.[/quote]
I have answered the questions fuckwad, just because you don’t agree with the answers is not my problem.
I stated that there probably was a perception that blacks were being left out of the rebuilding process.
I also stated that it doesn’t excuse a racist speech that was obviously divisive, just because the speech was being given to people who hold that perception.
You’re condecending when due to the fact that you don’t accept my perception of the speech, you ridicule me for not accepting your perception of the speech. Not to mention lecturing me on how I could possibly be racist for finding fault in his speech. I certainly do not agree with your view or perception of the speech. Does finding his speech racist, and defending my viewpoint strongly make me a racist? No.
BTW, here’s the definition of condecending:
con?de?scend?ing (knd-sndng)
ADJECTIVE:
Displaying a patronizingly superior attitude: “The independent investor’s desire to play individual stocks may well worry some market veterans, but that smacks a little of Wall Street’s usual condescending attitude toward small investors” (Tom Petruno).
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Let me break my position down for you into small manageable pieces.
Nagin stated that NO should be a majority african American city, and that’s the way god wants it. He stated that if NO wasn’t a majority african American city, it wouldn’t be the same NO.
By stating that he and god think that NO should be a majority african American city, that denotes that there should be more black people than any other particular race.
Still with me?
Good. By stating that he wanted more black people than any other race to populate the city, he is calling for a desired racial makeup for his city, and that god himself desires this. The basic premise of this speech is that one race is better than any other for the city of NO.
The notion that one race should be favored over any other in the rebuilding process is racist. Period.
Whether intentional or unintentional, he was implying that more blacks than any other race should populate NO.
Sure, so basically, you are saying that Nagin wants to rebuild New Orleans the way it was.[/quote]
Yes. But here’s the problem dumbass, NO went throug a disaster of biblical proportions and will naver be the same. NO faces a very tough rebuilding process and in the middle of it, he has the balls to say that if NO is gonna be great again that it should be a mojority black. That is displaying elitism in my opinion on top of playing racial favorite. It is my opinion that that this is divisive and racist.
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You see, while what he said had RACIAL undertones (not racist undertones), it isn’t about picking and choosing who will be there. You can’t even begin to accept the fact he is talking about rebuilding and bringing back the original population.[/quote]
You’re playing word games again vroomie. I believe that the speech held racist undertones due to it’s elitism and preference. And you’re putting words in my mouth. I never said it was about picking and choosing. The speech was about him and god PREFERING the city be a majority black. A politician going on TV and publicly prefering one race over all others to make his city great again? Now that has nazi undertones. That should set your liberal ass on fire.
Do you really not see the double standard, or are you simply ignoring it? A white politician, in the same situation, calls for his city to once again be predominately white because that’s the way god wants it, and you would be all over his ass like a cheap suit and you know it. Especially if said white politician was a republican.
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It’s easy to imagine that’s how God would want it, since that’s how it always was. However, I do think bringing what God wants into his speech was a bad thing to do. Hell, even Nagin has said that he never should have gone there.[/quote]
This is some of the dumbest shit I’ve heard. God desires no change ever? God desires the status quo to always remain the status quo? Simply because that’s the way it always was?
The more you open your sewer, the dumber you sound. Keep talking.
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To go so far as to say, The basic premise of this speech is that one race is better than any other for the city of NO, is to go well beyond what Nagin actually said.[/quote]
No it’s not. That’s what he said. Reread the speech. He stated that NO should be repopulated as a majority black, otherwise it wouldn’t be the same
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You believe this, perhaps, but most of the sane world does not. Holy shit, if people actually believed what you believed, the population would be in a mighty uproar.
Perhaps, instead of you being the only person on the planet with correct reason, and everyone else being wrong, most people have figured out what he really meant and know that it wasn’t whatever fabrication you are substituting for his words at the moment.
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Ahahahahahaha. I was really pissed right up until this point. This is funny. Getting a lecture from vroomie about not being the only person on this planet with correct reason.
Your a turd.